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Old 2013-01-11, 03:51   Link #1321
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We'll be lucky to have ONLY the capital underwater
- Pare, half the Greater Manila Area is flooded at least twice a year, and that's not even including typhoons. Lagusnilad in front of City Hall ring a bell?
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Old 2013-01-11, 05:18   Link #1322
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- Pare, half the Greater Manila Area is flooded at least twice a year, and that's not even including typhoons. Lagusnilad in front of City Hall ring a bell?
Sorry not really but my relatives live in Malabon so I still know what you mean.

The only way I think our country would survive post-Operation Babylon would be if our OFW population still exists in the ML world, the funny thing is, the ones in power are probably still going to be relatives of our politicians today.
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Old 2013-01-11, 07:41   Link #1323
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Hell,I feels like we are going to be refugees in The Day After somewhere in Australia because our army got financially fucked.

But,I also have that feelings that the people will revolted if the government keeps being that shitty.

Why?Because Mecca,the holiest Islam place,got freaking eaten by BETA.
ANY MUSLIM would be extremely pissed(and that's still an understatement).
If Operation Babylon occurs, I'm gonna fight my way to Seattle man.
Heck yeah I would.
I'd even hijack or build a PAK-FA to get myself there.
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Old 2013-01-11, 16:35   Link #1324
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So just finished playing the Muv-Luv trilogy...

Now I don't think it deserves nearly the acclaim it gets, but it was enjoyable and definitely at times "epic." However, there are definitely some clear problems that prevented me from absolutely loving this story.

Spoiler for Some complaints, spoilers:


I'll have some more thoughts later anyways.
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Old 2013-01-11, 20:17   Link #1325
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So just finished playing the Muv-Luv trilogy...



Another complaint I have is that the parallel world business did not end up working too well into the story's favor. The beta universe is so interesting in its own right, I think it would have been better and more meaningful if Takeru was forced to stay in that universe for good, ALSO, without any time loops. Most of the story you're just left thinking, "well he could just do it all over again anyways" and that doesn't help the drama
Bro have you been spoilered before reading?
Spoiler for Spoiler:
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Old 2013-01-11, 21:00   Link #1326
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Bro have you been spoilered before reading?
Spoiler for Spoiler:
Mind explaining the things in the spoiler tag?
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Old 2013-01-11, 21:41   Link #1327
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So, I finished Meiya's route in Extra, yesterday. After almost a year-odd of procastination and being tempted away by Mass Effect 3 and Far Cry 3 and Skyrim (FUS RO DAH! Steal everything!) I finally knuckled down to play Extra.

My stream of consciousness thoughts, which I jotted down as I played:
Spoiler for Goose's stream of consciousness while clearing Meiya:


All in all, I had fun. XD Now to clear Sumika, Tama-chan, Class Rep, Trollmine, and Marimo-chan.
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Old 2013-01-11, 22:26   Link #1328
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Mind explaining the things in the spoiler tag?
Wouldn't want people who haven't read yet know about the time loop bit.
Which would affect the whole VN.
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Old 2013-01-11, 22:36   Link #1329
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Wouldn't want people who haven't read yet know about the time loop bit.
Which would affect the whole VN.
I'm quite amazed that alot of people here actually haven't played it yet. The games been out years ago and yet there's still alot of people who doesn't know the least bit of it
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Old 2013-01-11, 22:42   Link #1330
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I downloaded Extra in 2011 (I think, can't really remember if it was earlier), and spent much of 2011 putting off playing it, and only just knuckled down to play Meiya's route this week.

Besides, it's kinda a niche game.
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Old 2013-01-11, 23:38   Link #1331
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I'm quite amazed that alot of people here actually haven't played it yet. The games been out years ago and yet there's still alot of people who doesn't know the least bit of it
This franchise is not even anywhere near mainstream.
None of my friends heard about this before. How sad.
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Old 2013-01-11, 23:59   Link #1332
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Bro have you been spoilered before reading?
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No, but alternative is much longer than unlimited and extra, so most of the story you do know about the time loop.
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Old 2013-01-12, 06:14   Link #1333
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So in the Muv-Luv universe, it is no exaggeration to say that the PAF would have just one or two barely working TSFs and basically fight the BETA with infantry small arms and light armored vehicles while the politicians keep guzzling their whiskey and keep wondering why the US forces don't just swoop in and save everybody--oh that's right. The Politicians will have already evacuated to America and left everyone else to fight off the BETA while they continue to make policy in Miami.
I would disagree with this quite a bit, the overall split in the timeline occurred around the 1960's (Although technically 1880's with the more peiceful Meiji Restoration) and around that time the US STILL had an active Naval base in the Philippines and was providing defensive capabilities. I would think that since the Beta Invasion occurred during the First Marcos term (when he was still not that power hungry) a much stronger defense could be mounted as the Philippines becomes an integral part of the Asian defense line.
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Old 2013-01-12, 08:40   Link #1334
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So you figure that Marcos may have not been so power hungry due to the needs of fighting the BETA.

Speculatively, would that mean that Marcos became a dictator to protect the Phillipines? <.< In this verse, at least.

Based on what I've read, it appears that while the Thais have mostly been NOMMED, the Malaysians and the Singaporeans are holding the southern Thailand bottleneck against the BETA (presumably with ANZAC assistance) while the US, Australian and Phillipine Navies are keeping the BETA from making a breakout from southern Vietnam.
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Old 2013-01-12, 10:13   Link #1335
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Spoiler for Some complaints, spoilers:
Well, Meiya is pretty much the poster girl for the trilogy. And I know that many, many people would've preferred her as a the main heroine in Alternative (I personally didn't mind, as I love ditzy red heads).

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Old 2013-01-12, 11:00   Link #1336
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So you figure that Marcos may have not been so power hungry due to the needs of fighting the BETA.

Speculatively, would that mean that Marcos became a dictator to protect the Phillipines? <.< In this verse, at least.

Based on what I've read, it appears that while the Thais have mostly been NOMMED, the Malaysians and the Singaporeans are holding the southern Thailand bottleneck against the BETA (presumably with ANZAC assistance) while the US, Australian and Phillipine Navies are keeping the BETA from making a breakout from southern Vietnam.
Interesting little bit here, I keep forgetting the timeline of Alternative is different from ours, given the context, that would mean the AFP would actually be very well equipped and I would even go as far as saying Marcos would stay in power (using national defense as a platform to get re-elected).

With that in mind the Philippines could actually be a vital part of the SEA defense line by being a major staging ground for forces in the region, as well as a vital supply line (like what the Japanese did during WWII).

Also, I fully expect any Filipino TSF melee combat doctrines (if ever) to revolve around the wonderful art of TSF-scaled Kali/Arnis.

Finally a few questions for anyone who has played the games (I don't mind being spoiled)

Spoiler for spoilers for other people:

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Old 2013-01-12, 15:10   Link #1337
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Old 2013-01-12, 15:38   Link #1338
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Am I the only person who wonders if maybe how different countries would manage their fight against the BETA should be a separate topic?
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Old 2013-01-12, 18:28   Link #1339
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Whoa whoa, if you can ask that, I bet you haven't read alternative. Now go and do so, before you get spoilered.
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Old 2013-01-12, 18:45   Link #1340
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the overall split in the timeline occurred around the 1960's
- Crud, forgot about that detail.

I still thinkt here would be widespread corruption going on, but considering the timeline, it would mean the PA/PAF would b getting at least a few more TSF than the real-world PAF has planes.

As to using Arnis, you'd have to consider the difference between melee halberd types. If PA/PAF TSFs would be using Arnis-like techniques, they'd probably adopt melee halberds like the Chinese TSFs (Straight), not like the Japanese ones---read the Muv-Luv Wiki for the details on different Melee Halberd types.

Something sort of like this. There's a particular blade I'm looking for, can't recall the name but it's similar a bit to this (The one I'm looking is a straight double-edged blade with an even two-pronged tip.)
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