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After a few minutes of that sort of thing I want to NUKE THEM TO HELL. 167 30.31%
It's only annoying when it's really excessive. 247 44.83%
It's interesting, like a sort of anime slang, but I wouldn't say it myself. 44 7.99%
Using Nihongo in my sentences is cooool ^____^ You are a chibi baka! 42 7.62%
おばけアメリカンのだ、日本語わかれない 51 9.26%
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Old 2004-03-11, 04:02   Link #41
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It occurs to me that the title of this thread says that the poll creator already has his mind made up. He didn't ask if it was annoying, He asked how annoying it is. Isn't that a bit of a leading question?
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Old 2004-03-11, 04:11   Link #42
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It occurs to me that the title of this thread says that the poll creator already has his mind made up. He didn't ask if it was annoying, He asked how annoying it is. Isn't that a bit of a leading question?
hehehe that's what i thought too when i first saw it, I was happy when i saw the poll went both ways , But i think it was ment to be understood like this "How annoying do you find it when people use japa... etc"
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Old 2004-03-11, 04:24   Link #43
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Who fights for a speech purity against languages' mixing? I think there is only one really annoying thing. When somebody uses japanese words and i don't know it's translation. But my displeasure is derected at my lack of knowledge only.

Who knows any links to otaku's slang dictionary?
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Old 2004-03-11, 05:40   Link #44
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I don't find it that annoying if it is used in context. And it also has to be used/prononced correctly. If not I get annoyed. It really annoyes me though if they start speaking Japanese using a really high pitched "anime" voice I have a female friend that dose this and I just want to shoot my self or her or both just so the suffering will end.
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Old 2004-03-11, 08:44   Link #45
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I especially hate it when people use the word "ecchi". it's like they're trying to sugarcoat their perversiveness.
"Ecchi" comes directly from "hentai"-- it means "H'ey", i.e., sexual, and it's used to refer to porno movies and shows in Japan. So they're not sugar-coating anything, even if they're trying to.

- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hentai
- Also: http://kagamix2.home.comcast.net/H_d...oreigners.html

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<…>BAKAとかHENTAIとかOTAKUって言葉を教え
てるのは誰ですか? 知人じゃないことを祈ります(苦笑) いや・・ HENTAIは
すでに日本語じゃなくなってるか? 日本製の萌え系エロ絵なんかをさす言葉だし;

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[...]Who taught these people to say BAKA and HENTAI and OTAKU and such?
I'm praying it wasn't anybody I know. (pained smile) Actually, it seems like HENTAI
isn't even Japanese anymore, you know? The use it to mean Japanese drawn cute erotic illustrations [moë ero] and all.

外国の HENTAI サイトをうろうろと見て歩いていたら・・・なんだか気分が悪くなってしまった(苦笑)。
 なんて言うか・・・独特の雰囲気があるよね。

 ちなみに HENTAI というのは、日本の漫画、アニメ、ゲームなどのえっちなメディアを指すらしい。
 日本人の俺としては、やっぱり抵抗があるなぁ(笑)。

 他人が描いたCGや市販ゲームのCGを無断で転載して、ギャラリーで御座い・・・というサイトが実に多い 。
 うーん、この辺は基本的な考え方が違うのかな。
 節操の無い連中だ・・・という印象を強く感じるね(笑)。

I went looking around at those foreign HENTAI sites... and I really just got sick. (nervous laughter)
What can I say...they have a 'unique' atmosphere.

'HENTAI' is what they use to indicate Japanese manga, animation, games, etc. when they have etchi content.
Speaking as a Japanese person, I have to say that's pretty disturbing.(laugh)

There's a ton of sites that just copy other people's illustrations and rip images out of games, then display them in a gallery.
I guess their entire way of thinking is different from ours?
I get a strong impression of a total lack of civility and morals. (laugh)
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Old 2004-03-11, 09:31   Link #46
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Heh, that Japanese person sounds about as stupid and ignorant as the "gaijin" he is complaining about :P
Which also sounds about normal...

I find it kind of annoying sometimes. When someone I know random shouts "NANI!?" I sometimes feel like giving him a right UPPTERCUT. I don't really know anyone else who speaks in Japgrish (oposite of Engrish, eg- stupid English speakers trying to speak Japanese :P). Most of my freinds also find it annoying, so they keep Japanese to a mininum heh.

I prefer most English incarnations of words and phrases anyway. "You f-ing idiot" sounds better than all forms of "baka" anyway. The only Japanese phrase I only say to people everis "mada mada dane", but that's only because it doesn't have an English equivalent.
Actually, I occasionally mutter random Japgrish to myself, but only out of boardom from spaking to myself in English so much
Only other time I completely endorse the use of Japanese is for stuff like saying "ecchi" to describe a well, ecchi series, and other times like that.
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Old 2004-03-11, 09:52   Link #47
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The only Japanese phrase I only say to people everis "mada mada dane", but that's only because it doesn't have an English equivalent.

What does "mada mada dane" mean anyway????? me and my roomate were trying to figure it out and it's used in so many ways... can someone list all the uses for it?
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Old 2004-03-11, 10:21   Link #48
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What does "mada mada dane" mean anyway????? me and my roomate were trying to figure it out and it's used in so many ways... can someone list all the uses for it?
I thought it meant: No, not yet! or Wait just a minute!
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Old 2004-03-11, 10:53   Link #49
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I don't like the options in this poll. Which do we choose if we are taking Japanese lessons? We have to practice for our oral exams somehow...

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"Ecchi" comes directly from "hentai"-- it means "H'ey", i.e., sexual, and it's used to refer to porno movies and shows in Japan. So they're not sugar-coating anything, even if they're trying to.
I thought ecchi came from the Japanese pronounciation of the English "H" from hentai...

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What does "mada mada dane" mean anyway????? me and my roomate were trying to figure it out and it's used in so many ways... can someone list all the uses for it?
I was led to believe you could kinda translate it into English as "It's not over yet".
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Old 2004-03-11, 10:54   Link #50
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I don't like the options in this poll. Which do we choose if we are taking Japanese lessons? We have to practice for our oral exams somehow...
Um, that's not what I was talking about...



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Old 2004-03-11, 11:08   Link #51
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I need another poll option: It's not necessarily annoying, and completely situationally dependant for me.

Everyone has different personal annoyances (and levels of tolerance), but this poll treats this Japanese injection like it's a universal annoyance, which I don't think it is.

If someone wants to use something poorly and/or make a fool of themselves, it's no skin off my back. My problem comes in when I don't understand what they're trying to say. The person might as well replace their post with: "Eschew obfuscation!"
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Old 2004-03-11, 13:33   Link #52
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I think the random use of japanese in other languages is annoying, except when it's used to describe something typically japanese. I also think it's okay if you don't mix it up (like just saying baka to someone). BUT NO MIXING.

ps. japanese english can be funny though (like betsu me and tank ye)
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I find it annoying because its most of these 'otaku' think its so cool to say it. If it was just normal use in language, I wouldn't find it so annoying. For example, knowing 2 languages and mistakingly speaking in both. But they ONLY use the common most words, and most likely they get it from anime..... Its just the fact it has to be these so called anime lovers, usually just fanboys that really don't know much about anime in the first place, such (I'm going to get flamed for this for sure) as anime noobs, oh wait, its 'otaku', and most fanboys like the dbz crowd (in usa) and naruto groupies. These people need lives -_-. Damn, I love anime and have lots of anime stuff, but i don't go as far as calling myself an 'otaku'......jeez.
l do like naruto and l kind of find it offencing to call all naruto fans naruto groupies but all in all l dont really find it annoying when people insert japanese words into thier sentences
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l do like naruto and l kind of find it offencing to call all naruto fans naruto groupies but all in all l dont really find it annoying when people insert japanese words into thier sentences
Why did you get offended? He didn't say everyone that watches Naruto is a fanboy...

IMO the only people that actually should get offended by that are the true Naruto fanboys...
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I have almost said 'gomen' to somebody a couple times but I think that's because Gon is always apologizing to somebody in HxH..
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Old 2004-03-11, 14:20   Link #58
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LAWL! Omae wa too funny!
rofl. i sense irony

boku no sei ja nai. watashi wa nihonjindesu.

and yes. it is leading Nosanninwa... you sound like a lawyer.

is there anyone who doesnt find it annoying (besides me)
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Old 2004-03-11, 14:27   Link #59
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Well, seeing that this threads topic asks for a certain degree of annoyance, i would say little to none because after all those years of beeing exposed to constant anime/manga conventions, club activities and japanese lessons one hardly recognizes anything special about it. If such a development is either scary or nice would be different question.
Now, while i am pretty much indifferent nowadays, some of my friends and colleagues (most of them are part-time anime watchers, so their p.o.v. is somewhat limited) do complain about a certain embarassment they feel if something like that happens in public. A seasoned fan like myself might be affected in a different way, but i guess that's completely up to preferences, background, attitude and whatnot.
I'm not sure how many people on animesuki have actually visited a convention with thousands over thousands of rabid people, but let me tell you nonetheless, if you feel bugged by such occasional behaviour, stay clear of such events cause they would be your doom^^ ...Just kidding
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Old 2004-03-11, 14:41   Link #60
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What does "mada mada dane" mean anyway????? me and my roomate were trying to figure it out and it's used in so many ways... can someone list all the uses for it?
I usely see it translated as "You've got a long way to go" or "You're not there yet", but as it can be applied to any context/object(and IS my Ryoma :P):
Mada mada: "Not yet"
Dane: Some form of "this" or "is" or "it is"?
So, this [object] is not YET there [good(there yet)]
Perhaps...?

Allthough excuse my ramblings. I'm sure someone who IS an authority on Japanese (eg: Not me. I'm more of an authority on generic offense myself) could explain it a lot better.
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