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Old 2011-03-30, 10:30   Link #2101
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Spoiler for ep 12:


i want a second season now.
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Old 2011-03-30, 10:52   Link #2102
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hmm... Yu's words have the power to become reality (Ayumu you are a god for how you inadvertantly used this!) What if she was to tell herself to have complete control of her powers?
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Old 2011-03-30, 10:54   Link #2103
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because if what it is trying to build up to falls through at the end, that is anti-climatic.
Heh~ Then it is, after all.
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Old 2011-03-30, 11:50   Link #2104
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I never knew you could consider an obligatory fanservice episode (be it last or first) to have a climax of any importance to begin with. Wasn't the climax of the main story part already last episode anyway? This is more like a bonus imo.

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It felt more like a genuine harem anime at this point, rather than a wacky comedy.
Because it is in fact both?

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Yeah, pretty nice (funny) implication.

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hmm... Yu's words have the power to become reality (Ayumu you are a god for how you inadvertantly used this!) What if she was to tell herself to have complete control of her powers?
I don't think that would work. And if it did, it probably wouldn't last long.
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Old 2011-03-30, 12:06   Link #2105
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Because it is in fact both?
And I didn't think it felt like that this episode.
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Old 2011-03-30, 12:11   Link #2106
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I thought that the King Of The night was just an immaterial spirit that possessed
people.

Does that mean that the guy he was possessing in Ep. 11 dissolved when the KOTN
did?

BTW, whatever happened to Kyoko? Haven't seen her since the fight in the
graveyard. Did Dai-sensei ever get her pupil back?
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Old 2011-03-30, 12:18   Link #2107
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I never thought another episode would come out this week O_o

Also I am guessing all the songs from this episodes will come out in character song albums
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Old 2011-03-30, 12:22   Link #2108
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If you guys are really that mad about something like this, just think of it as an 11 episode series and that the 12th episode was an OVA. Done.

I knew that I came into this series not expecting anything from the plot. I assumed it was just there to be entertaining. I found it so...especially this episode. To me, it was what I watched Zombie for --- random unique humor with random service.
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Old 2011-03-30, 12:28   Link #2109
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talking about ova. if its not swimsuit episode,. then what?
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Old 2011-03-30, 12:38   Link #2110
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I thought that the King Of The night was just an immaterial spirit that possessed
people.

Does that mean that the guy he was possessing in Ep. 11 dissolved when the KOTN
did?

BTW, whatever happened to Kyoko? Haven't seen her since the fight in the
graveyard. Did Dai-sensei ever get her pupil back?
No that was his real body. She told him to disappear but I guess since his body is immortal he ended up coming back together
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Old 2011-03-30, 12:45   Link #2111
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OK, just watched the last episode... and whatever criticism I had for the second half of the show, only this one episode made me forget all about it. Let's start, characterization is just perfect, they managed to flesh out the main four characters perfectly, and still fit in the secondary ones (sorry, Tomonori fanboys/gilrs, but Sera, as well as Haruna X Yuu just rule)

Now, the one main arguments I read is that they could use this episode for the second arc... that's plainly stupid sorry, but 20 minutes wouldn't save the train-wreck that ended up being the storytelling during the second arc. They compressed double the material in half the duration, 20 minutes wouldn't make any noticable difference

Then there is this reputable group that immediately shuts down his brain when they see panties, swimsuits, etc. Just grow up already, fan-service and story are two completely different things, only kids in puberty confuse them

Anyway, talking about fan-service, that photo wallpaper near the end, reminds me that whatever Sera wears makes it look good...

Spoiler for size:


... and despite net-idol Kira, still Sera is...

Anyway, WTF was with Haruna's song? that's what japanese think of death metal maybe they should at least try attend a live performance of one of their bands (blood stained child, or gallhammer would do, though the later play raw old-school black, instead of death, but it will do for 'em)... then again it's not like europeans or americans have a more accurate image

PS: nice penguins

PS2: what happened to that blond guy from school, up until this episode I was waiting for a NTR-twist
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Old 2011-03-30, 12:50   Link #2112
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If you guys are really that mad about something like this, just think of it as an 11 episode series and that the 12th episode was an OVA. Done.
It SHOULDN'T be that way though. If they want to include a bonus episode with service, it shouldn't be in the main episode lineup. They were given a 12 episode limit and they SHOULD use that limit as best as they can to flesh out the plot and characters more.


I envy you people sometimes, being able to accept crap like this episode with open arms. I have no idea how you guys find it entertaining but hey, power to ya.~
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Old 2011-03-30, 12:55   Link #2113
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It SHOULDN'T be that way though. If they want to include a bonus episode with service, it shouldn't be in the main episode lineup. They were given a 12 episode limit and they SHOULD use that limit as best as they can to flesh out the plot and characters more.
WHY You now just stating an opinion, does not make it true

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I envy you people sometimes, being able to accept crap like this episode with open arms. I have no idea how you guys find it entertaining but hey, power to ya.~
Refer to my post above

Unfortunately, it's this kind of mindset that make poser shows popular
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Old 2011-03-30, 13:07   Link #2114
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It SHOULDN'T be that way though. If they want to include a bonus episode with service, it shouldn't be in the main episode lineup. They were given a 12 episode limit and they SHOULD use that limit as best as they can to flesh out the plot and characters more.


I envy you people sometimes, being able to accept crap like this episode with open arms. I have no idea how you guys find it entertaining but hey, power to ya.~
Like I said before, I expect different things from different shows. I had no expectations for a deep, meaningful plot from Zombie. I at best hoped it was coherent. It was to an extent (even I've mentioned a few pages back about how some plot holes were too big to stomach IE Sera's music desu ex machina).

Now I just finished watching Higurashi too. That was an anime I expected a well thought out plot from. It was a show that I fully wanted an enveloping plot delivered --- and it did. I was thoughtfully entertained in a different way than the entertainment I got from Zombie.

You know what though? Even Higurashi had episodes that concentrated on fleshing out the characters and -minor- service (thinking Rena and Hanyuu atm). Higurashi had around 50 episodes to do that. Zombie had 12. I can let them off with a few corners cut in Zombie.

I mean, watching the show would be much less interesting if we don't get to know the characters some. Some episodes have to be spent fleshing out the characters. Zombie just choose to do that in the last episode so they could also tell us more about Saras. Again, if you really wanted, this episode could have been put in the middle (minus the Saras and Chris intro) and you could have had KotN be episode 12. Or just consider it the obligatory beach OVA.
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Old 2011-03-30, 13:12   Link #2115
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BTW, whatever happened to Kyoko? Haven't seen her since the fight in the
graveyard. Did Dai-sensei ever get her pupil back?
Especially after KotN incident did she lose her purpose. She either just went under or if we assume the more logical course, Dai-sensei was able to retrieve her and she has to undergo a disciplinary punishment of some kind.

But yeah, pretty sad we didn't get another look at her mighty plots and adorable face. Maybe she'll appear in that mentioned OVA. At the very least I can say that if we will get more Korezom, she will also reappear one way or another.

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Also I am guessing all the songs from this episodes will come out in character song albums
Either that or those songs are part of the insert song CD that is confirmed to get released in April.

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PS2: what happened to that blond guy from school, up until this episode I was waiting for a NTR-twist
Cool looking characters don't always play a big role, but I know what you mean. The same goes for twintail-chan... she is just a classmate for eye-candy but there's no other purpose for her besides that. Being Tomonori's friend and maybe in love with Ayumu don't change that purpose either.
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Old 2011-03-30, 13:29   Link #2116
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WHY You now just stating an opinion, does not make it true
Because plot, characters, emotional impact and world depth are what make a story good, not service nor songs. If you want to have a mixed bag, then the important things take prevalence. Fan-service DOES NOT contribute to the story or world the story is set in, and songs are only good to have when the story is a musical and are actually entertaining.

Even if 20 minutes more didn't make a difference, I'd be better to at least TRY to implement more rather than create some service episode and assume everyone who's watches it to appreciate it when in actuality it doesn't make the series any better.

If you like that kind of stuff, that's perfectly fine. But If the creators expect everyone to like it then they're just fooling themselves.
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Old 2011-03-30, 13:29   Link #2117
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Kyoko shows up again if you read through the LN spoillers.
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Old 2011-03-30, 13:37   Link #2118
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Because plot, characters, emotional impact and world depth are what make a story good, not service nor songs. If you want to have a mixed bag, then the important things take prevalence. Fan-service DOES NOT contribute to the story or world the story is set in, and songs are only good to have when the story is a musical and are actually entertaining.

Even if 20 minutes more didn't make a difference, I'd be better to at least TRY to implement more rather than create some service episode and assume everyone who's watches it to appreciate it when in actuality it doesn't make the series any better.

If you like that kind of stuff, that's perfectly fine. But If the creators expect everyone to like it then they're just fooling themselves.
I kind of second the notion that this ep 12 should have been the bonus ep in may. We could have used this ep to flesh out more about the KOTN.
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Old 2011-03-30, 13:38   Link #2119
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Like I said before, I expect different things from different shows. I had no expectations for a deep, meaningful plot from Zombie. I at best hoped it was coherent. It was to an extent (even I've mentioned a few pages back about how some plot holes were too big to stomach IE Sera's music desu ex machina).
It's kind of hard to consider something like that a plot hole when especially delicious ramen can also kill megalos. The series is really too weird to expect normal anime solutions to problems.

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I kind of second the notion that this ep 12 should have been the bonus ep in may. We could have used this ep to flesh out more about the KOTN.
What else is there to flesh out? He basically just served as development for Yuu and Ayumu's relationship. He was Yuu's first zombie she created and after a long time alive he got tired of it and attempted to do things that would distress Yuu enough to kill him but apparently her first attempt didn't stick or that might have been on purpose.
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Old 2011-03-30, 13:42   Link #2120
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Either that or those songs are part of the insert song CD that is confirmed to get released in April.
This is the answer. I haven't seen the episode yet (I prefer the legal route whenever it's available, even if that means waiting a week), but now it's suddenly clear what the insert song album was for.
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