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Old 2010-07-26, 16:23   Link #1161
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You mean .. as draggy as Kimi no Todoke?
24 episodes of pure "ohmaiGAH confess already!!!"
I did not mind the dragging on because I enjoyed the heavenly beauty of the purepure love! Kimi ni Todoke teaches young people that you have to make yourself worthy, and love will find you. Or you could say, the perfect Significant Other is not someone you find, it is someone you become. Through improving yourself, you make your own "fortune of love".

A dating sim can also convey this message. In fact, I think this is a recurring message in high-quality Japanese entertainment, and rightly so. Boys who are simply perverted (typically the sidekick of the story) never get what they desire. Those who have talent and show consideration for others, are the ones who succeed.

I don't have a problem with Amagami in principle, it is a decent and high quality product. But I naturally take exception to the idea that the path to love is falling under the influence of a dog spirit and emulating a puppy. There is bound to be routes in which the main character shows some more self improvement, please...
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Old 2010-07-26, 16:36   Link #1162
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Shizu-sama taking a well-deserved break after her amazing performance

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Old 2010-07-26, 18:05   Link #1163
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Finish Haruka's arc and it was decent, nothing extraordinary. The only problems I see is that the male lead is rather decisive and indecisive. If his girl wanted him to peek, he should have done it, end of story...

Also, Haruka's middle name is abnormal... never heard anyone have their middle name as "Lovely" before...

Arc Rating: 7.8/10, C+
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Old 2010-07-26, 18:22   Link #1164
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Finish Haruka's arc and it was decent, nothing extraordinary. The only problems I see is that the male lead is rather decisive and indecisive. If his girl wanted him to peek, he should have done it, end of story...

Also, Haruka's middle name is abnormal... never heard anyone have their middle name as "Lovely" before...

Arc Rating: 7.8/10, C+
Lol, I know. That's a pretty weird middle name. I mean most of the time middle names are named after grandparents, great grandparents, etc. But lovely. It seems pretty random to me.

I agree with your arc score, too, although I rounded mine up to 8, so B- for me.
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Old 2010-07-26, 21:37   Link #1165
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LOL, that's true. Any fantasy with Nanasaki and Karou in it is a good one in my books.


Anyway, his complaints have to do with the entire idea of dating sims. They're supposed to let you live your fantasy. They're supposed to be nonrealistic because these games are designed to be seperate from reality. A large majority of dating sims are like this, so it's natural for their respective anime adaptations to emulate the game. If they do so, it's a successful adaptation. Amagami does this from what I hear. His complaints are general in nature and aimed at the entire genre, not just Amagami. TBH he shouldn't have even started it if he knew it was a dating sim adaptation.
Suzumura55 just hasn't seen real-life situations with real people doing such things, but from experience the real-life situations are much crazier.
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Old 2010-07-27, 00:24   Link #1166
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Suzumura55 just hasn't seen real-life situations with real people doing such things, but from experience the real-life situations are much crazier.
Thats what I take from the rants... basically no experience with real life (much less the crud that passes for most of prime time television).

Ah well..... the first arc was not absolutely compelling (it didn't have me rocking the chair for the next episode) but it wasn't utterly serious about itself or banal either. So in terms of adaptations, I thought it was passable. When I compare it to something like Lamune (also a one route romance presentation that I like) - I think I like the 4-5 episode idea as it keeps the writing tighter.
We'll see how the next arc goes... I'm interested in seeing how they portray the "choice points" that lead down different realities.
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Old 2010-07-27, 00:53   Link #1167
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Well... getting back to the discussion on this anime...

I think it's interesting that there's somewhat of a reversal in Haruka. Haruka was once the recipient of many confessions from different people, and she grew tired of them. Some of those weren't meaningful, others probably were but she was not sure, nor was she ready to get into a relationship. Who knows... but in the end, she learned how to refuse their advances and continued to remain friendly with others.

In the hotel, she wanted to hear Junichi confess and reaffirm his feelings. She grew anxious, worried and insecure of the fact that he hasn't. And everything else from this point, we already know.

Looking at it from this perspective, I can see how Haruka's little bouts of jealousy towards other girls that Junichi may possibly be ogling, and her irritation towards the compatibility results play into all of this.
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Old 2010-07-27, 03:29   Link #1168
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The only problems I see is that the male lead is rather decisive and indecisive. If his girl wanted him to peek, he should have done it, end of story...
If you're told not to peek by a girl, then you're going to do just that. It's not Jun's fault that he didn't work out what she really wanted him to do.
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Old 2010-07-27, 03:30   Link #1169
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So this show gives them a fantasy to slip into. At the end of the day though it will leave you empty. The girls aren’t real. People don’t have relationships like this and this show will leave you wishing, hoping, and trying to live like this.
If I tried to live out my fantasies, I'd either have gotten dumped a long time back or learned that my girlfriend is one heck of a lot naughtier than I give her credit for.

Because let's face it: Amagami only crosses a few lines. Contrast my brain.

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When in doubt, a snazzy slightly-too-fast story is preferable to a snailpace-with-developments-like-molasses one. So yea, 5 eps might be the perfect length, but we have 6 heroines after all. Also, who knows if other arcs have a bit less of ground to cover... so we'll have to wait and see.
Mmmm... seeing as Iriya no Sora, UFO no Natsu is one of my top five favourite animes and that the second half of that show progresses at absolutely breakneck speed with a ton of cut material, I tend to agree that too fast is better than too slow. However, I also find that romantic conclusions just feel more satisfying to me when there's a journey to get there, and with this show I end up feeling that "journey" is too short.
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Old 2010-07-27, 03:46   Link #1170
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If you're told not to peek by a girl, then you're going to do just that. It's not Jun's fault that he didn't work out what she really wanted him to do.
Its also not his fault that she said " No peeking ". Seriously, what do you expect? Also, Shiroth. Were the Kaoru arc preview clips just from the first episode?
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Old 2010-07-27, 03:50   Link #1171
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Were the Kaoru arc preview clips just from the first episode?
Yeah that preview was just for the fifth episode.
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Old 2010-07-27, 04:07   Link #1172
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Yeah that preview was just for the fifth episode.
*Starts F5'ing Fansubber page like crazy"
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Old 2010-07-27, 05:52   Link #1173
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Episode 5 doesn't even air until Friday morning JST, so you can take a break and give your finger a rest.
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Old 2010-07-27, 06:15   Link #1174
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Old 2010-07-27, 09:33   Link #1175
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DAMN it i just saw this anime and im hook!!!

is it realy from a love sim game??
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Old 2010-07-27, 10:35   Link #1176
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DAMN it i just saw this anime and im hook!!!

is it realy from a love sim game??
Um,... yeah. Like many other "choose the girl" anime, it is. The challenge is actually that so many of anime series are from date-sims, viewers mislead themselves sometimes when the occasional series involving several young ladies *isn't* adapted from one.
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Old 2010-07-27, 11:11   Link #1177
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I've been wanting to post that for a while. Now's as good a time as any, I guess.

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Old 2010-07-27, 12:04   Link #1178
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If you're told not to peek by a girl, then you're going to do just that. It's not Jun's fault that he didn't work out what she really wanted him to do.
It really was a tough call though. He could either be invited in or denied entry indefinitely, after physical retribution.

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Um,... yeah. Like many other "choose the girl" anime, it is. The challenge is actually that so many of anime series are from date-sims, viewers mislead themselves sometimes when the occasional series involving several young ladies *isn't* adapted from one.
Is this a dating sim or a visual novel? I heard people saying it was a VN.
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Old 2010-07-27, 12:23   Link #1179
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Its also not his fault that she said " No peeking ". Seriously, what do you expect?
You know, this is actually something that's bugged me in anime... do bathroom doors in Japan not have locks? It seems like whenever a girl wants to join a guy in a bath, or a guy wants to peek in an anime, they never have to deal with locks. I'm pretty sure I could figure out how unlock both of the bathrooms in my house from the outside with just a minute's work and the right tools, but it's not like I could just barge in.
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Old 2010-07-27, 12:57   Link #1180
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You know, this is actually something that's bugged me in anime... do bathroom doors in Japan not have locks? It seems like whenever a girl wants to join a guy in a bath, or a guy wants to peek in an anime, they never have to deal with locks. I'm pretty sure I could figure out how unlock both of the bathrooms in my house from the outside with just a minute's work and the right tools, but it's not like I could just barge in.
Japan is definitely different when it comes to locks. But even if they have locks on the door, some trope will enable someone to enter. There's got to be some name for the trope.
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