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Old 2010-05-11, 16:49   Link #301
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No way he's near that strong. He's not close to Aizen or the top, probably not strong enough to beat any espada.
why not? uruyu did a pretty good bit of damage to #8 even with the power reduction hax going against him. thats after just a short time training under ryuken, who is very likely stronger and most definitely knows more quincy tricks.

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Since it seems only Urahara knows Isshin, what are the chances he was part of squad zero? And his back story will lead into that.
where did you get that idea? aizen wasn't the least bit surprised when isshin showed up. also, the whole "i knew about you since before you were born" crap means he already knew about isshin way back then.
nobody else besides rukia (who is relatively new) and gin (who wouldn't care) has had a chance to see/recognize isshin yet.
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Old 2010-05-11, 17:15   Link #302
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why not? uruyu did a pretty good bit of damage to #8 even with the power reduction hax going against him. thats after just a short time training under ryuken, who is very likely stronger and most definitely knows more quincy tricks.



where did you get that idea? aizen wasn't the least bit surprised when isshin showed up. also, the whole "i knew about you since before you were born" crap means he already knew about isshin way back then.
nobody else besides rukia (who is relatively new) and gin (who wouldn't care) has had a chance to see/recognize isshin yet.
#8 was an espada only because of those abilities. Remember, he couldn't even get in when Nel was there. As far as power goes, he was the weakest.

Well, for one thing, unless he changed his name, they all know Ichigo's last name. I'd guess they would put 2 & 2 together and figure out Isshin was Ichigo's dad.
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Old 2010-05-11, 17:18   Link #303
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He didn't just beat him, with the Quincy Final Form he 1shot Mayuri's bankai and made it clear that wasn't the full power. Not sure if the Quincy Final Form could match Aizen, but certainly the top Espada.

Still want to see what Ryuuken can do though, seeing as he appears to be much more powerful than Uryuu.




The Quincy final form ......,will....., most likely........., take out an Espada in one attack also... As for Aizen.............,it will also work on him.. But only if Ryuken .........,is the one using it..
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Old 2010-05-11, 17:36   Link #304
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Old 2010-05-11, 18:05   Link #305
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Old 2010-05-11, 18:14   Link #306
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#8 was an espada only because of those abilities. Remember, he couldn't even get in when Nel was there. As far as power goes, he was the weakest.
all of the espada were weaker in their flashbacks.
the overall difference in power of the espada over time was even directly brought up in nnoitra vs nel. he used to be 8, powered up to just 5, and was still stronger than the old 3 (she had to release just to get an advantage over him unreleased).

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Well, for one thing, unless he changed his name, they all know Ichigo's last name. I'd guess they would put 2 & 2 together and figure out Isshin was Ichigo's dad.
and why couldn't he change his name? seems like a pretty standard thing to do when you want to go into hiding and start a new life.
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Old 2010-05-11, 19:35   Link #307
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He's trying to write like Kubo. All the ellipses are panel breaks. No one takes six pages to write three sentences like Kubo... ^_^
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Old 2010-05-11, 23:24   Link #308
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Quincy Final Form is the ultimate hax...but it also means to give up your powers.

More useful in a 1on1 since even if you win, you'll be helpless against any ancillaries.
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Old 2010-05-12, 02:29   Link #309
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lool, didn't aizen said something about how if you sacrifice everything and focus on one ability, you can beat even the strongest ability? Going by his logic, Uryuu should be able to kill aizen if he focus hard enough....................or even jinta for that matter....................
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Old 2010-05-12, 02:35   Link #310
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Did everyone miss the class that showed how low a level captain kurotsuchi is?
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Old 2010-05-12, 05:33   Link #311
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Did everyone miss the class that showed how low a level captain kurotsuchi is?
levels aside, uruyu was able to counter crotches (see what i did there?) shikai ability, which would leave most people totally buggered, as far as i can see.

speaking of shikai, how comes he didn't use it against szayel?
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Old 2010-05-12, 05:43   Link #312
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levels aside, uruyu was able to counter crotches (see what i did there?) shikai ability, which would leave most people totally buggered, as far as i can see.

speaking of shikai, how comes he didn't use it against szayel?
Because he got to look cool/creepy summoning his bankai.
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Old 2010-05-12, 07:04   Link #313
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Was crawling around on mangastream and saw some of the scans of chapter 403.

I laughed.

Spoiler for Manga Chapter 403:
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Old 2010-05-12, 10:56   Link #314
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Quincy Final Form is the ultimate hax...but it also means to give up your powers.

More useful in a 1on1 since even if you win, you'll be helpless against any ancillaries.



No really...,he only lost it because....,he beyond his limit at the time..
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Old 2010-05-12, 12:30   Link #315
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lool, didn't aizen said something about how if you sacrifice everything and focus on one ability, you can beat even the strongest ability?
The statement was actually suppose to mean the opposite.

He said that to Yamamoto implying that because the old man focused focused mostly on developing the destructive powers of his zanpakuto (according to Aizen), Aizen was able to find a way to defeat him even though the old man was stronger.

I guess it's safe to say that Aizen prefers balanced fighters over those who specialize in any one particular thing.
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Old 2010-05-12, 12:51   Link #316
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The statement was actually suppose to mean the opposite.

He said that to Yamamoto implying that because the old man focused focused mostly on developing the destructive powers of his zanpakuto (according to Aizen), Aizen was able to find a way to defeat him even though the old man was stronger.

I guess it's safe to say that Aizen prefers balanced fighters over those who specialize in any one particular thing.
umm, no. he was talking about wonderweiss being turned retarded so he could put out fires.
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Old 2010-05-12, 13:03   Link #317
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Yes Wonderweiss traded his five senses..
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Old 2010-05-12, 13:07   Link #318
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^^Whoa, old sg-1 reference^^
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Old 2010-05-12, 20:47   Link #319
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umm, no. he was talking about wonderweiss being turned retarded so he could put out fires.
*re-reads chapter*. Yeah, you're right.
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