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Old 2010-07-10, 06:18   Link #141
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The new striker that Mio has is based on a real japanese fighter used in the war, just the same as the strikers based on Zero's.

Hopefully we will at least see the witches that were shown in the [The Sky that Connects Us] manga.
No doubt. At least with the anime, unlike in real life, there's a much higher ceiling of potential considering everyone is allied.

I hope we see more German and Japanese and American craft featured with the new girls.
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Old 2010-07-10, 10:54   Link #142
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Like a moth to the flame I am reluctantly drawn to the second season of Strike Witches...

Moe? WWII military-fetishism? Extreme pantsu service?

For me, that debate ignores mecha musume as it's own distinct reason to watch. Whether it is chocolate in my peanut butter or the other way around, for me it tastes better than by itself.

So my ranking is:
1. Mechamusume
2. WWII

The two other elements of this show are actually kind of minuses for me.
3. Moetic antics (yes even the ones with lots of implied yuri) are tiresome and I can only handle in controlled doses.
4. Downright excessive pants flash. Seriously. How can I possibly admit to anyone off a BBS like this that I actually watch and enjoy this show? :-(

I can understand that for the larger population (especially in Japan) the proportion of interest is almost completely inverted.
1. Moe - all otaku love moe! Heck why else would it be so profitable!
2. Pantsu at soft core porn levels - all otaku love porn! So why not more? Given that most anime is consumed privately and talked about anonymously online why not porn it up? It's inconceivable that western otaku might be a) ashamed of this level of service while b) not ashamed of watching a moetic anime in general.
3. General techo, and specifically WWII fetishism - now we're talking a smaller otaku sub species... But it's okay, any bone thrown to them will suck them in and sales are guaranteed by the above two groups.
4. Mechamusume - uh... Niche market?

Why complain? The show gets aired! Exactly, i don't know why I bother except to allay some of the shame... (^_^);;

Now then, I think I really have to get back to desiging that board game to play with my Strike Witches figures...
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Old 2010-07-10, 12:08   Link #143
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no girls are wearing pants or dress for that mater

This creates the excuses for panty shots
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Old 2010-07-10, 13:33   Link #144
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What would happen, if they would wear shorts?
They would jump into the Striker Unit and would get stuck in it.
(just kidding, but thats my 2nd theory, why no shorts/ first one is fanservice)
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Old 2010-07-10, 16:29   Link #145
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I mean look at us! In an anime full of pretty girls with their bottoms half covered, we're talking about the bloody airplane I'm no longer the lolitron!
There's nothing wrong with this as this is rather more interesting then drooling over ass shots of middle school girls.

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The new striker that Mio has is based on a real japanese fighter used in the war, just the same as the strikers based on Zero's.
Yeah the N1K though I'd have expected it to appear sooner in this timeline, originally it N1K1s appeared in 1943. The N1K2 did only appear in numbers in early 1945, but that was because of increasing supply shortages and the mad race to replace the scads of planes being shot down every day. Neither of which seems to be a factor here and so I'd have expected it to appear sooner.

Even so the "Nikky" (as we always called them in the sim I play) is still pretty mediocre honestly. At best it's roughly equievlent to a Hellcat being slightly slower, but somewhat more maneuverable, climb rate was basically a wash and probably depended more on which airplane was in good upkeep with good gas then anything. (Something it must be noted the F6F was far more likely to have) It's weapons fit was heavier, but its not like either plane lacked for killing power.

The problem was that the F6F was regarded by the US as a very reliable and easy to fly, but somewhat low performance aircraft. The N1K1 was regarded by the Japanese as a high performance model for use by it's best pilots.

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I literally LOL'd at the 'new striker unit' for Fuso.
The lol part is that they were still using the Zero in late 1944 to start with not that they had new models. Japan knew the Zero was a dead end by about 1942, but it lacked the industrial capacity to ever fully replace it, but not for lack of trying. They certainly had prototypes and limited production models that performed much better, but these never saw the widespread use needed to matter. If we're just taking about maybe a few dozen or hundred witches at most though then it becomes the opposite and you wonder why it took so long to replace the outdated models.

The J2M or N1K are both better fighters and both began to appear in 1943 IRL, the A7M would also be better and was in prototype phases by mid 1944. It's introduction was delayed by bombing and the crippling shortages beginning to effect Japan by late 1944 though and it never made it into combat. Neither of those seem to be happening here though meaning it making into combat by late 44 early 45 would not be impossible.

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Kinda funny how the entirety of real life Japanese Zeroes were basically annihilated by the Wildcats and Hellcats from Long Islang (Grumman). It would probably have been their dream to upgrade as easily as Miyafuji did.
While the F6F certainly had it's share of kills it was hardly alone in destroying the Japanese Air Force with P-38s, P-40s, Spitfires, P-47s, F4Us, and even P-51s all getting plenty of kills. The F4F was at best on par with early enemy aircraft and can really only claim a notably favorable kill ratio when you factor in later models flying against stuff like Kamikazes. The early models probably at best broke even in fighter combat claiming a positive kill ratio only when you factor in stuff like Torpedo and Dive bomber kills.

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What would happen, if they would wear shorts?
They would jump into the Striker Unit and would get stuck in it.
(just kidding, but thats my 2nd theory, why no shorts/ first one is fanservice)
The problem being that the units don't come up nearly high enough to preclude the use of small shorts and this ignores that possibility of a decent skirt entirely, which would still give your panty flashes while avoiding most of the pantless nonsense.
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Old 2010-07-10, 18:48   Link #146
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Are the Neuroi still based on experimental WW2 machines?
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Old 2010-07-10, 19:09   Link #147
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What would happen, if they would wear shorts?
They would jump into the Striker Unit and would get stuck in it.
(just kidding, but thats my 2nd theory, why no shorts/ first one is fanservice)
Well, I'll get technical here

My observation has it that the shorts inhibit airflow to any intakes on the Strikers. Take Shirley for example, she'll need to be "stripped down" and streamlined as much as possible to attain the speed she aims for. Her Striker has horizontal intakes, so yeah....

With shorts, they'll still show a rear-view of a dogfight. Stealth showed us that any angle of a dogfight is possible

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There's nothing wrong with this as this is rather more interesting then drooling over ass shots of middle school girls.
Seeing as how a number of us (myself included) are disturbed by the crotch shots, this is a welcome on-topic discussion
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Old 2010-07-10, 20:11   Link #148
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The problem being that the units don't come up nearly high enough to preclude the use of small shorts and this ignores that possibility of a decent skirt entirely, which would still give your panty flashes while avoiding most of the pantless nonsense.
Waaaa... pantless nonsense... *sigh* ... for me, it's not nonsense at all, it's one of the things I love the most in SW, and pantsu/nopan action is also one of the main reason I watch SW... cut that out and I don't know if I'd still follow it... well, maybe I'd still stick with it for the characters, but it wouldn't be the same anymore... can you imagine SW without pantless nonsense? nah... it just doesn't work.

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Seeing as how a number of us (myself included) are disturbed by the crotch shots, this is a welcome on-topic discussion
Nooooo... you too! *sob* Am I the only one here with pantsu/nopan crotch shots as main reason to watch this? Guess, I'll get back what I said, no more pantsutron nickname for you. You, just don't deserve it.

and, I have to say, I'm not disturbed by the crotch shots, just gotta lov'em. Its a mark of this franchise, anyway.

However, while I don't mind all the technical discussions currently on-going in here, I must confess I'm not very interested in those topics, so I'll let you guys talk about that freely without kickin' in. Eeehh.. Keep it up, and have fun.

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Old 2010-07-10, 20:31   Link #149
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Nooooo... you too! *sob* Am I the only one here with pantsu/nopan crotch shots as main reason to watch this? Guess, I'll get back what I said, no more pantsutron nickname for you. You, just don't deserve it.
HEy! I'm a Minna fan(she graced my avatar on my return to this forum)! Once she gets in view it'll be back to plain ol' me which to me, her crotch shots are more legal than Micchan's and I'm giving her the highest chance to return to my avatar, hopefully by next ep. I'll show ya! I'll work hard and earn the nickname "Minnatron"

Give me back that nick! It's mine! And don't you dare try to take "Eikotron" away from me

Internet problems too, eh? Mine are more along the lines of a wireless carrier being a wireless carrier, which... wow, I haven't used a hard line in a long time now.
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Old 2010-07-10, 23:17   Link #150
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Finally got around to episode 1, some thoughts~

- Considering the change of Gonzo, the animation is quality crisp, not a bad take actually
- Change of Yeager's uniform is surprising but, it may be due to promotion or something official (guessing)
- First season's "similar events" was not really annoying, it felt nostalgic :3
- Sakamoto's voice actress doesn't have "that laugh"
- It's good to see that the story pace seems quicker in some sense, also hopefully more military action and story seems likely (do want!)
- Good to see the other witches from non anime works involved
- Erica's emblem is not as exciting as I had hoped
- She's still my fave
- Definitely keeping my eye on this series, military fangirlism yays~

That's all I can add for now.. 6am here, back to work
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Old 2010-07-11, 01:56   Link #151
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The problem was that the F6F was regarded by the US as a very reliable and easy to fly, but somewhat low performance aircraft. The N1K1 was regarded by the Japanese as a high performance model for use by it's best pilots.

The lol part is that they were still using the Zero in late 1944 to start with not that they had new models. Japan knew the Zero was a dead end by about 1942, but it lacked the industrial capacity to ever fully replace it, but not for lack of trying. They certainly had prototypes and limited production models that performed much better, but these never saw the widespread use needed to matter. If we're just taking about maybe a few dozen or hundred witches at most though then it becomes the opposite and you wonder why it took so long to replace the outdated models.

The J2M or N1K are both better fighters and both began to appear in 1943 IRL, the A7M would also be better and was in prototype phases by mid 1944. It's introduction was delayed by bombing and the crippling shortages beginning to effect Japan by late 1944 though and it never made it into combat. Neither of those seem to be happening here though meaning it making into combat by late 44 early 45 would not be impossible.

While the F6F certainly had it's share of kills it was hardly alone in destroying the Japanese Air Force with P-38s, P-40s, Spitfires, P-47s, F4Us, and even P-51s all getting plenty of kills. The F4F was at best on par with early enemy aircraft and can really only claim a notably favorable kill ratio when you factor in later models flying against stuff like Kamikazes. The early models probably at best broke even in fighter combat claiming a positive kill ratio only when you factor in stuff like Torpedo and Dive bomber kills.
True that the American variety did win the day in the Pacific, but it still seems to me that the F4F Wildcat was the crucial aircraft of the war considering it paved the way for the aircraft that finally had a more decisive advantage over Zeroes, the F6F Hellcat.

You're right about the killratio not being that much superior for the Wildcat though. It was after the superior American production + the Hellcat that was the nail in the coffin. Basically a flying tank compared to the flying kites of Zeroes (albeit, very agile. Still the agile cats of the air in that war).
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Old 2010-07-11, 03:34   Link #152
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Well the art is a bit different in this show, it appears to be more solid compared to the soft style in the previous season...I don't know whether to love it or hate it XD
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Old 2010-07-11, 06:36   Link #153
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=/ i miss sakamoto's man-like laughter ;/ somehow makes her easily memorible for me ;D whereas as my nick suggests,im a sanya fan ;D i hope to see more screen time of sanya and eila ;D
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Old 2010-07-11, 08:49   Link #154
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. can you imagine SW without pantless nonsense? nah... it just doesn't work.
Yes, it would work (at least for a few of us.. )~ remember the OVA? Most of them don't go out pantsless/skirtless if not deployed^ Hence not much "Coerced" nopan/crotch/bumshots.. if not really needed.. ^


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*sob* Am I the only one here with pantsu/nopan crotch shots as main reason to watch this? .
Don't worry~ I can already feel that most people in this thread are drawn by those crotch/bumshots shots~ plus Moe & yuri action~


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However, while I don't mind all the technical discussions currently on-going in here, I must confess I'm not very interested in those topics, so I'll let you guys talk about that freely without kickin' in. Eeehh.. Keep it up, and have fun.
It is inevitable, considering the motif of the series. At least everyone would know the specs of the witches equipment & such, even if they cared about it or not.

Just one thing, don't shun us out because we see the anime from a different perspective and looking into bloody details & such..

I feel that some dislike us "Hurrrr realism people" or maybe I'm just misreading things, my memory got shuffled or both.. lol Peace^


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I never noticed that Mio was already using an N1K based Striker~ ^^
In fairness, I kinda liked the new Mio voice.. but here signature laugh felt different ^

Although I'm still adjusting to the Saori Seto vers since Saeko Chiba vers was the one used in the OVA & the First SW anime we all knew about ^^

I'm still wishing for more Non Anime Witches cameos ~~~~
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=/ i miss sakamoto's man-like laughter ;/ somehow makes her easily memorible for me ;D whereas as my nick suggests,im a sanya fan ;D i hope to see more screen time of sanya and eila ;D
I can't wait for more Sanya either, glad we got a little extra Francesca first ep too.

While the art makes them look young, I believe some of them are legal age.
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Old 2010-07-11, 09:29   Link #156
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While the art makes them look young, I believe some of them are legal age.
Yes, a number of them are("Mio! long time no see! Look at you,... you gettin' old" cookie to who knows where that line came from). Even "she" is starting highschool

But to me, there is a different feeling between seeing a crotch shot from HOTD and a crotch shot of Micchan. After all, it may "just" be me

You know I'm waiting for a crotch shot of Minna
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Totaly agree.

mangatron, you got some point there. But that doesnt cover the reason, why every girl in the school didnt wear any shorts.
I guess, without all those panty shot, we wouldnt have a 2nd season.
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mangatron, you got some point there. But that doesnt cover the reason, why every girl in the school didnt wear any shorts.
I based my silence primarily on the fact that they are wearing swimsuits or what underneath, which if they were wearing normal pantsu AKA the Witches then I'm really going to cleanse my eyes of the Miichan crotch shots

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I guess, without all those panty shot, we wouldnt have a 2nd season.
Hmm, that's true. If this series focused on weaponry fanservice then the first season probably would have been a series of short OVA's or something
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Don't worry~ I can already feel that most people in this thread are drawn by those crotch/bumshots shots~ plus Moe & yuri action~
Glad to hear that, and...
Oh, yeah.. the moe/yuri action. forgot to mention about that before, this is another of the main reasons why I love SW so much. dunno which comes first, Hmmm.. pantsu/nopan action or moe/yuri action? lolz hard choice, I just want both, so I guess they're both at first place for me.

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It is inevitable, considering the motif of the series. At least everyone would know the specs of the witches equipment & such, even if they cared about it or not.

Just one thing, don't shun us out because we see the anime from a different perspective and looking into bloody details & such..

I feel that some dislike us "Hurrrr realism people" or maybe I'm just misreading things, my memory got shuffled or both.. lol Peace^
I'm not shunning out anyone.. sorry if I gave that impression.
I really like to get to know witches equipment specs & such, what I meant was, it's just not my primary focus for this series, that's all. and that means, if technical posts will get too long, I would just be forced to skip'em, since, as I already said, it's not my primary interest. But that doesn't mean I'm completely uninterested in regards to this stuff, so keep up all the technical topics/discussions guys, I like to read'em.
oh, and I don't hate/dislike anyone, I have nothing against "Hurrrr realism people", I would even dare to say, thx god people like that exist, so, thanks to them, I can get to know witches equip. specs in an easy way... lolz thus satisfying my little curiosity about those stuff.

ya, Peace^^ mate. but, I thought we were already at peace.

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Thanks for sharing ~ saving now~ lolz
oh, tha gifs, no prob, dude. Thx to you for likin'. since nearly 90% of my posts come with gifs, I bet sooner or later, someone will start calling me gifman or giftron. hahaha.. hope not, and don't worry I'll provide next eps gifs too.


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I'm still wishing for more Non Anime Witches cameos ~~~~
yea, same here. Hope to see more of them.

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=/ i miss sakamoto's man-like laughter ;/ somehow makes her easily memorible for me ;D whereas as my nick suggests,im a sanya fan ;D i hope to see more screen time of sanya and eila ;D
ye, laugh sounded a bit different now that Mio's VA has changed.. let's just hope Saori Seto will get better at mastering Saeko Chiba's distinctive laugh in the eps to come.
And, yeah, can't wait to see more Sanya and Eila too.
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