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Old 2010-10-04, 17:30   Link #461
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—The catchphrase attached to the series, “Dazzling the stage, Galactic Pretty Boy!” is pointing at that too, isn’t it? It’s a kind of embarrassing catchphrase though, isn’t it? (lol).
ENOKIDO “How’s that!” I say. If it’s just normally embarrassing, it’s no good, in my opinion (lol).
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ENOKIDO So, I was struck with the phrase “Galactic Pretty Boy,” but, after all, it’s just an homage to “Meteor Boy” and “Space Boy” and it just sounds retro. That’s not it, what I was thinking about at the time was that, in the past phrases like “Meteor Boy” and “Space Boy” made my heart pound for real, and I wanted to share that feeling with people now. That’s when it struck me, I added “pretty” and ended up with “Galactic Pretty Boy.” Even though everyone around me was laughing (lol).
tl;dr Yes, it's supposed to be funny/embarrassing.
Not that it matters, but I read that exactly the opposite way. Enokido is saying that he wants us to have our hearts "pound for real." That's what I mean. Everyone around him might have been laughing, but he suggests that he was taking it seriously. I still think "pretty boy" is a bad translation of bishounen in this context.

But maybe I'm wrong. I'd like to know more about how the director sees the context. Can you give me a link to the Japanese source of the interview?

Personally, I'm taking the whole thing seriously -- as retro shows we laugh at now were supposed to be taken when they were first on -- and letting others have their enjoyment vitiated by seeing it all as a silly joke. Works for me so far.
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Old 2010-10-04, 18:06   Link #462
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Sugata stole the show IMO. He obviously cares for Wako in some way, and puts her happiness above all else... maybe, even if it isn't with him? Dunno, need more clues to see if he really likes her that way.

And yes, I really like those kind of characters, if my handle is of any indication. So yeah, definitely rooting for Sugata/Wako for now.


At the very least though, I actually like how they portray that arranged marriage... neither party is acting like that being in an arranged marriage is the most disgusting thing on earth. Two thumbs up bones!
I personally think Sugata does have a major problem with the betrothment. It's just that it is unusual the rich male is the one who is opposed to it. But as long as Wako insist the marriage needs to go ahead, Sugata can't do much about it. Sugata is going to have to go for the passive-aggressive angle, gently nudging her towards Takuto until she would be willing break with tradition and elope.
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Old 2010-10-04, 18:15   Link #463
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I'm now convinced this show is going to be a send-up of all the homo-erotic trends that have been developing in mecha anime for the past 15 or so years. This is going to be awesome.

I mean when you have the voices of now legendary yaoi bait characters Setsuna F. Seiei and Lelouch Vi Britannia as two of the main characters you know what's in store.
As well as Bone's version of Asura Cryin. Haruka Tomatsu plays the voice of another conduit for a mecha who has be nude 75% of the time
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Old 2010-10-04, 18:33   Link #464
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Not that it matters, but I read that exactly the opposite way. Enokido is saying that he wants us to have our hearts "pound for real." That's what I mean. Everyone around him might have been laughing, but he suggests that he was taking it seriously. I still think "pretty boy" is a bad translation of bishounen in this context.

But maybe I'm wrong. I'd like to know more about how the director sees the context. Can you give me a link to the Japanese source of the interview?

Personally, I'm taking the whole thing seriously -- as retro shows we laugh at now were supposed to be taken when they were first on -- and letting others have their enjoyment vitiated by seeing it all as a silly joke. Works for me so far.
You made good points about the "Bishounen" translation issue.

Still, I don't think that this can be taken seriously. After all, only way I could take something on a 70s super robo level "seriously" is if I was like 10-14 still.

I mean sure, some cheesy super robot 70s shows got really serious at the end right? Like with Tomino's Zambot or the like?

There was nothing hinted at that in that first ep, I just felt Igarashi and Enokido having a ball saying "YES MORE FIGHTS, MORE MYSTERY, MORE WIN, MOAR SPARKLE!!"

Really like I said before, what attracted me to the show is how they matter of factly trotted out all this hoary material, polished up with new shine, gave it some panache and flair and didn't knock you over the head with anything.

It's like tounge and cheek but played straight at the same time (cause I don't get any parody feel here).

Also Takuto is really cool, no "gotta find my self". "Be the best blah blah" or broody self reflective angst with this kid. From the get go he's just out to have some fun AND KICK SOME ASS WHILE SPARKLING DAMMIT!
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Old 2010-10-04, 19:14   Link #465
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Sounds like a gay version of Bishoujo Sailor Moon, doesn't it?

Damn you Lulu, because of you all shounen heroes now need to be homos!

And what are my thoughts?
Retarded, full of brainless antiques and random transformations, pseudomystery and tired archetyped bijin characters going in fastforward trying to look cool, terrible action and uninspired themes, maids with cat ears and schoolgirls dressed like clowns, cast made for eroge TM, cardboards I don't give a damn about and lots of other poops I am too bored to rage at now.

Or the short version: Not so good first impressions.

Who bets they will try to explain everything in the end again and make no sense whatsoever?
Yes, well I can understand how a show like this can be a tough sell for someone who is seemingly always in "IT'S REVIEW TIME" mode. Personally I don't think this show is built to stand up to any sort of real scrutiny based on my own first impression. It knows what it is (at least I think so but I might be as premature as anyone) in a brainless action-comedy piece and I guess that is that. If anyone were come out now and say "I'll have to wait a couple of episodes to see if I like it" I think that would be their way of politely saying they aren't going to like it. Hard pressed to believe anyone couldn't know right off the bat with this one.

Anyway I'm not making any bets either way on that. It'll come down to what exactly there is too explain I think. It's kind of hard to gauge from the first episode and shows like this are always throwing out new concepts right up to the finish line. Although judging by how Star Driver seems to be a concept about a concept (i.e homoerotic undertones in mecha anime) I'm almost tempted to ask what exactly there might be too explain in the end. Guess we'll see eh?

That's probably all the thoughtful examining of this show I plan on doing by the way folks. I mean really......
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Old 2010-10-04, 19:53   Link #466
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Hey, wait a secong...
Sparkling + homo? That sounds familiar...

TWILIGHT! (pukes)

Ok, they are actually expecting me to like something that has just, oh, that resemblence to that, oh, let's call it book that was a, oh, let's say a freaking success.

Yeah, if that idea sold out, why not make an anime version of it? With mecha.
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Old 2010-10-04, 19:59   Link #467
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Hey, wait a secong...
Sparkling + homo? That sounds familiar...

TWILIGHT! (pukes)

Ok, they are actually expecting me to like something that has just, oh, that resemblence to that, oh, let's call it book that was a, oh, let's say a freaking success.

Yeah, if that idea sold out, why not make an anime version of it? With mecha.
Err... are you serious?
Bishonens had been sparkling in manga ever since manga existed.
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Old 2010-10-04, 20:06   Link #468
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On the issue of Ginga Bishonen, I get the impression it works both ways, both in a comical, funny manner as well as the honourable mention that Kaoru mentioned.

If we assume that the moniker of G.B. wasn't pre-established, but an extension of how a former person named himself the G.B, then Takuto pretty much states it out the spirit that is present on how one is a G.B. It's flamboyant, but also heartfelt and honest, a traditional hero existence that doesn't hide itself behind a mask.

To a 3rd party, the G.B. call-name and concept may reeks of a mockery, parody, hilarity or whatever it's percieved due to how 'cheesy' it sounds.
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Old 2010-10-04, 20:12   Link #469
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I really enjoyed that first episode! Maybe not as much as I enjoyed the first Heroman episode, but it was still awesome.

Can't wait for more.
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Old 2010-10-04, 20:47   Link #470
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The ginger bishonen w/ flamboyant mannerisms in his androgynous robot w/ huge female thighs, big shoulders, and flat chest. Oh yeah, the robot has a plumed hat. Oh yeah, the pilot has his pretty boy transformation.

The anime seems skinny on the story. Seems to be going for "quirky." Not very "retro."

No
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Old 2010-10-04, 21:05   Link #471
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Well, in view of the retro theme, it probably ought to be translated something like Kid Galaxy or Galaxy Lad or possibly Galacto-Hunk. But between Marvel and DC, I'm sure those names are taken.

My current theory is that an intergalactic Cirque de Soleil crashed on the island in medieval times.

Ten to one, our noble rich kid is honestly noble, honestly feels like a big brother to Wako in a lot of ways, and also is in love with somebody else. (Possibly a guy, but quite possibly Sakana or one of the other girls.)

He might also be expecting to die soon, and thus is hoping to set up Wako with somebody who won't be killed.

Wako is an interesting name, btw. The waegu/wako were the pirates from Japan that raided Korea and China.
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Old 2010-10-04, 21:16   Link #472
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The ginger bishonen w/ flamboyant mannerisms in his androgynous robot
Just wanna point out the phrase is "Ginga Bishounen", not ginger.
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Old 2010-10-04, 21:36   Link #473
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Someone on another forum pointed this out and compared it to this which I think is pretty clever. It doesn't seem to mean much but it was mentioned in the episode that Takuto (actually took a second to think of his name, I keep thinking of him as GB) connected with the 22nd cybuddy and the marking on him is the 22nd letter of the Phoenecian alphabet. So again, nothing really important but kinda neat.
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Old 2010-10-04, 21:50   Link #474
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Someone on another forum pointed this out and compared it to this which I think is pretty clever. It doesn't seem to mean much but it was mentioned in the episode that Takuto (actually took a second to think of his name, I keep thinking of him as GB) connected with the 22nd cybuddy and the marking on him is the 22nd letter of the Phoenecian alphabet. So again, nothing really important but kinda neat.
Yeah, I saw that mentioned more in depth on this blog. Seems quite interesting and well thought out.
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Old 2010-10-04, 21:52   Link #475
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I understood 0% of that.

But I'm 100% signed the fuck on.

Gimme more~
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Old 2010-10-04, 23:00   Link #476
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Takuto is so pretty he gets a guy transformation sequence and he has "pretty" in his name. That's just how pretty he is.

Was it FABULOUS? Well - bishounen and production yen were flying about like bats in the belfry, so I guess it was pretty fab. It's BONES - it looked and sounded amazing, was basically indecipherable and featured an all-star seiyuu cast. Fortunately it didn't appear to take itself at all seriously - the tone was one of flamboyant silliness that more or less had me bought in by the time of the new student mixer. I don't know if this is going to be the masterpiece some are saying, but it sure showed it's pedigree.
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Old 2010-10-05, 01:13   Link #477
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Here's what I'm wondering about the OP:

It's obviously storyboarded and directed to look like a single cut animation, but stuff like that is usually animated by one person. But yet the credits list an animation director, a mecha animation director, a motion designer, a layout artist, and a whooping 10 keyframe animators, and an art designer. That's a lot of different staff to simulate a one cut animation.

I'm guessing that the "motion designer" (Hiroki Tanaka) did a rough animation sequence for the entire thing, mostly to time all of Takuto's movements along with all the other elements. It's likely that only one or possible 2-3 at most of the keyframe animators then polished up and did detailed animation for Takuto's movement sequence as the main element, while the other keyframe animators animated the various elements separately (the students walking, the bike and cars, the ferret, the mecha, etc). Nakamura probably animated the sequence of Tauburn coming out of the water, since that looks very similar to his sort of work.

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Well, I don’t know the animation process so in deep, but the last seconds of the op reminded me of Tanaka’s work, like as he did not only rough genga (is the correct word?), but actually drew the final key frames for that part.

Aside from this, it was a very promising episode. The direction was very strong as expected from a veteran like Igarashi. Here I think he can take out the best of both Ouran and SE. From the former the funny school scenes, from the latter the mecha fights and the action in general. I would say that it is the best Bones episode I’ve seen in a long while. The writing was also good, even if the characters look a bit cliched.

I only realized after some time that the painting was actually a Rahxephon’s reference.

Now what I hope is that the pacing or the story won’t fall apart like others Bones shows of the past years.
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Old 2010-10-05, 01:59   Link #478
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Well, I don’t know the animation process so in deep, but the last seconds of the op reminded me of Tanaka’s work, like as he did not only rough genga (is the correct word?), but actually drew the final key frames for that part.
Yes, Tanaka definitely did the final part when Tawburn flies off. He also handled the Takuto transformation scene, and the Tawburn posing scene.
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Old 2010-10-05, 02:39   Link #479
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Loved both the OP and the ED, song and animation. I was disappointed not to get any of Hayamin's amazing voice, but Tomatsu Haruka did a good job with the simple insert song.
Oh the insert was Tomatsu? Definitely sounds better than her usual stuff, I guess j1m0ne is right in that she sings better in character than normally.
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Old 2010-10-05, 04:26   Link #480
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Wow...to be honest I had no freakin' idea what was going on. Did I smoke pot and was high without even knowing about it? Episode left me bamboozled. Wow.

*rubs eyes*
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