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Old 2011-01-16, 05:02   Link #1121
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it looks like the shield only blocks the attack towards the is pilot. Like beam and missile. Though I'm not sure. It's just that even if Ichika's yukihira 2 has the ability to nulify shield. When his striking Cecilia. He didn't cut through the shield. It's like it's not their to begin with. When his striking.
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Old 2011-01-16, 05:43   Link #1122
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so okay...
ichika has:
>a berserker type configuration for the IS (sacrifice shields in order to charge the weapon to 200%, get close for maximum effect)
>high agility makes up for melee class (i dunno if he has a ranged weapon). dun tell me his 1st shift blade counts as ranged melee
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Old 2011-01-16, 06:28   Link #1123
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I don't remember seeing him with anything but melee weapon.
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Old 2011-01-16, 09:33   Link #1124
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um, literal translations again, huh?
there is really not that much of a difference between the two words, actually. Since they're mostly interchangeable.
Only thing is, "grosso" usually refers to something "thick", "bulky", "fat"... maybe, that's the reason I saw it written as "grasso" (direct italian equivalent for "fat") in a certain sub.
Whilst "grande" usually refers to something that's above the ordinary, like "great" or "important".

Just wanna avoid the spread of mis-information.
you are absolutely right. "mondo grosso" can just mean "big world", or at least "bulky world", since "fat" is "grasso", "thick" is "largo" or "spesso", and "great" is "grande".

the italian vocabulary is way too wide. if i want to say "great" i have no need to use "grosso" as synonym, because i already have a word ("grande") that means "great" (and is a lot more common). it would feel very innatural for me to say "mondo grosso" if i mean "important world" (just to be clear, i'm italian)... and also it wouldn't make any sense as a tournament name imho.
"grande" can mean "great", "big" or "important", but "grosso" in this case can just mean "big", since i think that the world can't be defined "thick".

maybe "bulky" can be acceptable, since "mondo massiccio" (literal for "bulky") would be way too hilarious, and since an IS is actually bulky.

not so important. i just wanted to point it out.

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Old 2011-01-16, 14:46   Link #1125
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Oh, a fellow italian comrade. Thanks for helping me clarifying things.
Yeah, "grosso" in this case is surely intended to mean "big", "great", "important".
Dunno why the author(?) chose it instead of "grande" or similars... maybe it just sounds "cool" to a non-italian speaker.

Anyway, I'm still laughing at the people who subbed it as "Mondo Grasso". I mean, c'mon "Fat World"? really?
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Old 2011-01-16, 14:51   Link #1126
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In some ways, Ichika's loss can be considered good. If he actually hit Cecilia, than wouldn't the sword actually cut through her shield and directly harm her? If i remember correctly, his sister said the weapon ignores shields, right?
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Old 2011-01-16, 15:03   Link #1127
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In some ways, Ichika's loss can be considered good. If he actually hit Cecilia, than wouldn't the sword actually cut through her shield and directly harm her? If i remember correctly, his sister said the weapon ignores shields, right?
It was explained in the episode it goes through the normal shield but IS also have an absolute shield which would activate in those situations to protect the pilot from any kind of damage. Basically his sword forces an IS to lock itself down.
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Old 2011-01-16, 15:17   Link #1128
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so okay...
ichika has:
>a berserker type configuration for the IS (sacrifice shields in order to charge the weapon to 200%, get close for maximum effect)
>high agility makes up for melee class (i dunno if he has a ranged weapon). dun tell me his 1st shift blade counts as ranged melee
Probably the IS type determines which weapons can be installed in the frame (Cecilia's Blue Tears is limited to long range, Ichika's excels at close range, Rinin has both kinds of weapons and so on)
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Old 2011-01-16, 15:49   Link #1129
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And maybe because I used a better picture, because the pic was Way to small I made a bigger screencap which is much clearer. (720P res.)
As I said, I've checked back with the new, bigger map now and made some map shots
I've used Marble set to Mercator projection, which is also used in the IS map.

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um, literal translations again, huh?
there is really not that much of a difference between the two words, actually. Since they're mostly interchangeable.
They're often interchangeable, but I wouldn't say mostly.

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Only thing is, "grosso" usually refers to something "thick", "bulky", "fat"...
Not really
"thick" is "largo", "fat" is "grasso" and "bulky" is "massiccio" or "tozzo".
See Zingarelli definition for "grosso" below.

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maybe, that's the reason I saw it written as "grasso" (direct italian equivalent for "fat") in a certain sub.
"grosso" and "grasso" are quite different, actually. Either they just mistyped it (although with 'a' and 'o' at opposite sides of the keyboard, it's not very likely), or their linguistic skills aren't that great

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Whilst "grande" usually refers to something that's above the ordinary, like "great" or "important".
At least that I can agree to.

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Just wanna avoid the spread of mis-information.
Then don't do it yourself

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"mondo grosso" can just mean "big world", or at least "bulky world", since "fat" is "grasso", "thick" is "largo" or "spesso", and "great" is "grande".
"big" doesn't fit well, "bulky" even less so
See Zingarelli definition below.

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the italian vocabulary is way too wide. if i want to say "great" i have no need to use "grosso" as synonym, because i already have a word ("grande") that means "great" (and is a lot more common). it would feel very innatural for me to say "mondo grosso" if i mean "important world" (just to be clear, i'm italian)
Aren't we all?
Since we can't quite agree on the meaning, let's consult an authoritative source, the Zingarelli (edizione 2008):

grosso 1. Che supera la misura ordinaria per massa, per volume.
(Beyond the ordinary in mass, in volume.)
2. Di notevole entità, rilevanza, consistenza.
(Of noteworthy importance, relevance, consistencency.

Just as I said, plainly "big" would be poorly fitting there, as it's neither beyond the ordinary nor of noteworthy importance or relevance.
"great" would be a much better translation. (Yes, it does overlap a bit with the meaning for "grande".)
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Old 2011-01-16, 18:37   Link #1130
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Oh hey, IS has a subforum! Congrats.
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Old 2011-01-16, 18:38   Link #1131
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As I said, I've checked back with the new, bigger map now and made some map shots
I've used Marble set to Mercator projection, which is also used in the IS map.

Spoiler for map shots:




They're often interchangeable, but I wouldn't say mostly.



Not really
"thick" is "largo", "fat" is "grasso" and "bulky" is "massiccio" or "tozzo".
See Zingarelli definition for "grosso" below.



"grosso" and "grasso" are quite different, actually. Either they just mistyped it (although with 'a' and 'o' at opposite sides of the keyboard, it's not very likely), or their linguistic skills aren't that great



At least that I can agree to.



Then don't do it yourself



"big" doesn't fit well, "bulky" even less so
See Zingarelli definition below.



Aren't we all?
Since we can't quite agree on the meaning, let's consult an authoritative source, the Zingarelli (edizione 2008):

grosso 1. Che supera la misura ordinaria per massa, per volume.
(Beyond the ordinary in mass, in volume.)
2. Di notevole entità, rilevanza, consistenza.
(Of noteworthy importance, relevance, consistencency.

Just as I said, plainly "big" would be poorly fitting there, as it's neither beyond the ordinary nor of noteworthy importance or relevance.
"great" would be a much better translation. (Yes, it does overlap a bit with the meaning for "grande".)
Impressive, i bet those watching in those countries are going High-Five and saying "Alright! We got an IS! In your face (insert country that did not get an IS) losers!

Also, IS already has it's own sub-forum. Congratulations!
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Old 2011-01-16, 19:06   Link #1132
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If you checked the sub forums, you would have realized there are already 2 threads for Episode 1 and 2.
Much like other sub forums, there will be a thread for the current Episode...
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Old 2011-01-16, 19:53   Link #1133
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I'm surprised a sub forum was created. Whats the requirements to get one anyway?
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Old 2011-01-16, 20:54   Link #1134
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Old 2011-01-16, 21:57   Link #1135
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so exactly HOW MANY girls are into him besides the known males? is this a nagasarete airantou effect? or just the class?
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Old 2011-01-16, 23:36   Link #1136
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Yay, a sub forum.
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Old 2011-01-16, 23:39   Link #1137
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so exactly HOW MANY girls are into him besides the known males? is this a nagasarete airantou effect? or just the class?
He is the only one, so it's natural that the'd be interested in him. It's probably all superficial and all, good thing for Houki... so far...
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Old 2011-01-16, 23:44   Link #1138
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He is the only one, so it's natural that the'd be interested in him. It's probably all superficial and all, good thing for Houki... so far...
Looks like Houki will soon only more one in Ichika's harem, compared to the only one in the firsts episodes.
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Old 2011-01-16, 23:47   Link #1139
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Looks like Houki will soon only more one in Ichika's harem, compared to the only one in the firsts episodes.
I can't wait to see all of her reactions. I might just hhnngghh myself to death.
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Old 2011-01-16, 23:48   Link #1140
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It's a shame that there will be only 12 episodes, I hope for a second season.
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