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Old 2010-09-11, 04:13   Link #301
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Scans of Frozen Teardrop Chapter 1:
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v1...en%20Teardrop/

Of particular interest are the three pages featuring illustrations of Duo Jr., Kathy, Young Treize and Van.
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Old 2010-09-11, 04:25   Link #302
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You sure that's Jr Duo?! He looks just like Duo! And Kathy does look like Sally <3
And thank you for sharing this! +cookies
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Why don't you want Trowa and Quatre involved in MS production?

Snuggles was the one who brought up FT's release making Preventer 5 not canon. Personally, I haven't read Preventer 5 so I don't really know what plot-points are being conflicted.

With Ground Zero, there are two big reasons I don't consider it canon. Heero upgraded Wing Zero into Wing Zero Custom which directly conflicts with EW retconning the events of GW. Bandai also said this was wrong. And not a single staff writer from the original series worked on Ground Zero which leaves it without legitimacy in my opinion.

I highly doubt it but anything is possible.
Trowa & Quatre both destructed their MS. I doubt they would go around making more of them, it would be totally against what they did ;_;

As for Preventers 5, I didn't find anything that conflicts with Frozen Teardrops yet.
I guess Ground Zero does conflict some, but I don't really mind. I really liked the story, though it was kind of funny (*btw, I think you are laughing too much* xD)
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Because it's blatantly out of character for the very people who fought for mobile suits to no longer be necessary and campaigned for them to be gotten rid of to start producing mobile suits?



IIRC The movie/OVA less explicitly also had Noin and Zechs headed off to Mars and Relena spearheading the terraforming project, so that's canon either way; but the 5 Gundam pilots themselves never went to Mars.
I agree with your first part.
And I guess you know about the second part now

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In the series (not Endless Waltz) manga ending, the boys all go to Mars as can be seen in the links below. Also, Dorothy, Une, Zechs and Noin meet up at Treize's grave and Relena meets up with Heero to say goodbye asking him not to forget and "come and deal with this loose end someday." Lyrics of Rhythm Emotion are printed over the next few panels where Relena's teary-eyed and Heero smiles at her before leaving with the other boys for Mars.

http://www.mangafox.com/manga/shin_k...3/c003/35.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/shin_k...3/c003/36.html
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/shin_k...3/c003/37.html

Frankly, I think this ending sucked ass but EW pretty much retconned it.
Thanks for clearing that up! I just got confused >.<
And I liked both the endings. In the first, the pilots stayed together (and decided to go to Mars together too) and it seems really cute to me.
But in the second ending they got adjusted to some extent to living in peace and that made it lovely too.
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True, but it wouldn't be out of character if there was a new enemy to fight.
Still, they wouldn't involve themselves directly in making arms. They would more likely try infiltrating or something...at least I feel they SHOULD.
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I just found it while randomly surfing. Forgot where.

Yeah, will probably do that now. I do wonder if Mariemaia is getting a love interest though.
Haha, ok. It's a really good find.
Who knows...she must be around 35...she should already be married
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Old 2010-09-11, 07:18   Link #304
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Almost forgot but the cover photo for this chapter looks like it's Heero stepping out of stasis with his gun drawn. Pissed off? xD Is that a lab coat?

Also, if the name Sakura Asagi (artist) is familiar, it's because she did the awesome art for Blind Target. ^_^

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Old 2010-09-11, 07:29   Link #305
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His expression does look like he is ready to blow off the person who froze him And I think he substituted his jacket for an overall-kinda-jacket (forgot what it's called). But he still is Heero! The same Heero <3
I am waiting eagerly for others illustrations
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Old 2010-09-11, 08:00   Link #306
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Trenchcoat? Urgh...wish he had aged and had a happy life but oh well... Being a teenager sucks enough. Being frozen as one for over 30 years? Yeah, that's even worse. -_-
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I think it's trench coat.
Yea, I was hoping he had had a happy life too (seeing him walk in space at the end of EW makes me so sad I used to hope he might have had found peace though; who knew he was frozen -_-). But I think being a teenager is fun
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Old 2010-09-11, 09:49   Link #308
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His expression does look like he is ready to blow off the person who froze him And I think he substituted his jacket for an overall-kinda-jacket (forgot what it's called). But he still is Heero! The same Heero <3
I am waiting eagerly for others illustrations
Speaking of jackets, that reminds me of his blue Sanc Kingdom jacket he wore in the 2nd opening.
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Yea true, though that's really elegant compared to this I like both of the jackets
Btw, someone has a HQ image of that Sanq jacket?
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Speaking of jackets, that reminds me of his blue Sanc Kingdom jacket he wore in the 2nd opening.
That's what I'm thinking... Especially with the themes bubbling up to the surface of 'Relena's probably dead' and 'redemption' etc, it certainly makes sense. White being the color of death in Japan, and also just in general of purity, which has always been a big theme for Heero and the boys (being 'untainted', etc).

Gotta say, I'm mighty disappointed in these character designs for Duo Jr and Cathy. How freaking lazy. Unless there's a REASON, like Duo is grooming his son to be a clone/replacement of him (or IS a clone of him), that's just... yeesh. And Cathy's only slightly better- I'll admit the face is a little different, but (and this got me with Duo Jr too) since when are hairdo's genetic? rofl. Though I can see Duo grooming his son to wear a braid like him, you'd think he'd get rebellious and lop it off sooner or later.

Sakura Asagi's art is gorgeous though, hope she's illustrating the whole novel!
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Yea true, though that's really elegant compared to this I like both of the jackets
Btw, someone has a HQ image of that Sanq jacket?
http://cosmic-dare.org/relena/dvd.html

Click on the first pic. That's from the 2005 Japanese DVD release.
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Sakura Asagi is a great artist. I'm really looking forward to illustrations of the pilots and the new characters as well.
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Still, they wouldn't involve themselves directly in making arms. They would more likely try infiltrating or something...at least I feel they SHOULD.
I could see Trowa infiltrating an enemy organization but Quatre has never been the infiltrating type.
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I could see Trowa infiltrating an enemy organization but Quatre has never been the infiltrating type.

I remember Quatre is good in getting info and hacking (Um...from the Edward's base scene and I think there's another scene of him in space where he is hacking/collecting info)...he can do that.
I know they can start MS production but I feel it's totally against their principles
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http://cosmic-dare.org/relena/dvd.html

Click on the first pic. That's from the 2005 Japanese DVD release.
O_O I never had the first two pics!!!!!!! And I have a huge collection of Gundam Wing pics *faints*
This makes me wonder what other epic pics I am missing....
Thank you very much, Washu-chan. Though I meant the scene from the Rythm Emotion ending, this one is a great find <3
Do you happen to have the GW beach pic in HQ? ^^'
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I remember Quatre is good in getting info and hacking (Um...from the Edward's base scene and I think there's another scene of him in space where he is hacking/collecting info)...he can do that.
I know they can start MS production but I feel it's totally against their principles


O_O I never had the first two pics!!!!!!! And I have a huge collection of Gundam Wing pics *faints*
This makes me wonder what other epic pics I am missing....
Thank you very much, Washu-chan. Though I meant the scene from the Rythm Emotion ending, this one is a great find <3
Do you happen to have the GW beach pic in HQ? ^^'
Can you describe the beach pic for me? I don't think I have it.

I guessing that it's the pic with Heero, Relena, and Duo in swimsuits at a pool?
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I remember Quatre is good in getting info and hacking (Um...from the Edward's base scene and I think there's another scene of him in space where he is hacking/collecting info)...he can do that.
I know they can start MS production but I feel it's totally against their principles
Remember though, this novel is a long time after the events of EW. I'm not saying their principles have definitely changed but we don't know what events could have occurred which may have caused a change in philosophy.
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Can you describe the beach pic for me? I don't think I have it.

I guessing that it's the pic with Heero, Relena, and Duo in swimsuits at a pool?

No, it's where Trowa is in the pose as my avatar.
Duo is wearing orange shirt, Trowa green, Heero yellow, Wufei white and Quatre reddish.
Here's Duo & Trowa:



NOTE - Just the characters in the sig, else the bg and stuff is different.

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Remember though, this novel is a long time after the events of EW. I'm not saying their principles have definitely changed but we don't know what events could have occurred which may have caused a change in philosophy.
Yea true...but I still can't accept that they would be making MS...but as you said, they might have a good reason; I hope so.
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No, it's where Trowa is in the pose as my avatar.
Duo is wearing orange shirt, Trowa green, Heero yellow, Wufei white and Quatre reddish.
Here's Duo & Trowa:



NOTE - Just the characters in the sig, else the bg and stuff is different.



Yea true...but I still can't accept that they would be making MS...but as you said, they might have a good reason; I hope so.
Never seen the pic before.
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Old 2010-09-12, 02:24   Link #319
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It's pretty long so looks like this'll take awhile to translate. @_@ Anyway, speculations? I'm really mostly just concerned with Relena's fate. My theories range from "dead" to "also frozen" to "became the new Zechs." xD I do wonder if a new masked character will show up here.
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Old 2010-09-12, 03:05   Link #320
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do we get new gundams ?
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