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Old 2012-05-02, 19:19   Link #4201
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I think (I hope) it's gonna get deeper only at the end, because their relationship and his feelings towards her have to do with how he's dealing with the fact that he has to kill her and why he chose to do it in the first place. And if he really meant it to do it before.



I think the objective of FT is to follow GoL, because so far they've been side by side (take the last manga chapter as an example). But I guess that goes on the public opinion, how much they're liking it or not to keep it going. Maybe that's why they're stalling so much... However, if FT is walking towards its end, it'll be a complete and total failure by Sumisawa. I wouldn't even consider it canon, in my head. And I think he wants to make things right. Let's hope so!
Well we haven't heard anything out of Bandai or the Gundam mags that would imply that they are pushing it to end quicker then normal.

As it is, so long as they aren't going to end AGE early then there is likely little to worry about Frozen Teardrop or Glory being ended early. Granted neither seem to be doing raving well among fans either so anyone holding out hope for something to be animated when it comes to either is holding out hope for something that will likely never happen.
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Old 2012-05-02, 19:20   Link #4202
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It's because of context.

Everytime we see this happen we see the Heero who still tries to keep to himself, either at the time he doesn't really know how to handle it or because he is trying to finish a war.

To have him do this after "Months of happieness" is more then a little odd and a reversal of character instead of growth. This is one of the reasons it's odd to not go into more detail on this subject. Is it happiness for Relena? Is it actually both of them are happy as the passage implies? Does Heero open up to her at all?

If we are to just take him up and bouncing one day and saying jack shit it really begs to question just how realistic is that Heero has had any character growth in that time and just how happy those two actually are.

Had Heero jetted right after he woke up and healed, or when Relena was in the shower or some shit then it wouldn't be a problem. It smacks of weird though they decided to pull Kira/Lacus with Heero and Relena only to have Heero pull Midseason Gundam Wing Heero type action.
I see where you're coming from and totally agree.

I still can't think of what he was recovering from after the whole Barton incident... he stumbled out of a wreaked gundam and from what I was able to tell, collapsed of plain exhaustion. Whatever, it would be nice to get an expansion on this.

On a side note, why is Rashid and the rest of the Manguanac Corp. upset with Quatre? They were with him at New Edwards... even though they seemed to have disappeared halfway through the battle. Dammit Sumizawa! Get it together!
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Old 2012-05-02, 19:29   Link #4203
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Well we haven't heard anything out of Bandai or the Gundam mags that would imply that they are pushing it to end quicker then normal.

As it is, so long as they aren't going to end AGE early then there is likely little to worry about Frozen Teardrop or Glory being ended early. Granted neither seem to be doing raving well among fans either so anyone holding out hope for something to be animated when it comes to either is holding out hope for something that will likely never happen.
Maybe you're right!

But I do hope it gets animated just for the sake of having GW animated again. One can hope
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Old 2012-05-02, 20:47   Link #4204
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Well we haven't heard anything out of Bandai or the Gundam mags that would imply that they are pushing it to end quicker then normal.

As it is, so long as they aren't going to end AGE early then there is likely little to worry about Frozen Teardrop or Glory being ended early. Granted neither seem to be doing raving well among fans either so anyone holding out hope for something to be animated when it comes to either is holding out hope for something that will likely never happen.
What makes you say they aren't doing well with fans? They still sell, right?
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Old 2012-05-02, 21:08   Link #4205
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What makes you say they aren't doing well with fans? They still sell, right?
I didn't say it was doing badly.

However it certainly isn't doing amazing either if we just look at fansites, listing on blogs and overall fan outcry from Japan. Nothing suggests to me that Frozen Teardrop is doing amazing or badly it, just kinda is.

Unless you are talking about Age, then there is plenty to suggest that things are going very very negativly even if it is starting to win people over slowly.
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Old 2012-05-02, 21:35   Link #4206
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I see where you're coming from and totally agree.

I still can't think of what he was recovering from after the whole Barton incident... he stumbled out of a wreaked gundam and from what I was able to tell, collapsed of plain exhaustion. Whatever, it would be nice to get an expansion on this.

On a side note, why is Rashid and the rest of the Manguanac Corp. upset with Quatre? They were with him at New Edwards... even though they seemed to have disappeared halfway through the battle. Dammit Sumizawa! Get it together!
Hell, an explosion in the face should have scarred him a little, but he came out unscathed... also, is it just me, or the damage the serpents did to wing zero was trivial?

By the way, the other thing is that Heero and Duo are both imbeciles... do they think they are too broken, or what?

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Old 2012-05-02, 22:25   Link #4207
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Hell, an explosion in the face should have scarred him a little, but he came out unscathed... also, is it just me, or the damage the serpents did to wing zero was trivial?

By the way, the other thing is that Heero and Duo are both imbeciles... do they think they are too broken, or what?

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Well the damage to Zero is odd. He takes way to much damage that we just don't see being done to him and then they use the odd excuse that it was the TBR that finishes it off.

As for Heero, he does have a weird habbit of avoiding damage but I don't think it's any worse then say Kira who takes Aegis self detonating right to the freaking mug.
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Old 2012-05-03, 00:30   Link #4208
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I didn't say it was doing badly.

However it certainly isn't doing amazing either if we just look at fansites, listing on blogs and overall fan outcry from Japan. Nothing suggests to me that Frozen Teardrop is doing amazing or badly it, just kinda is.

Unless you are talking about Age, then there is plenty to suggest that things are going very very negativly even if it is starting to win people over slowly.
I know Age is doing terribly but I haven't really seen Japanese fan opinion on Frozen Teardrop. Just the vocal Western members. Where is the Japanese fan outcry?
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Old 2012-05-03, 00:35   Link #4209
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I know Age is doing terribly but I haven't really seen Japanese fan opinion on Frozen Teardrop. Just the vocal Western members. Where is the Japanese fan outcry?
That's really the issue.

There isn't any. Thus far Frozen Teardrop seems to have avoided AGE's fate, but neither has it gained any real traction or push so that we Gundam fans really hear alot about it from our Asian counterparts like we did with Crossbone/Unicorn/Astray/Stargazer.

Maybe when we actually get to see Snow White, or something of substance happens we might see a pick up, but as it stands Frozen Teardrop seems to be in a state of Limbo bordering on Meh which could be even more damning then AGE.

Right now the closest thing we can really compare it to G Gundam Manga remake/retelling that while not doing badly didn't lite the Gundam world on fire either. Of course this from everything I've seen. I surf more then a few places popular with Gundam and talk to more then a few buds who are apart of the Japanese gundam scene, that said it's all hearsay so of course it could be wrong, but until Bandai or something showing a strong following from Japan I'm comfortable going with this mindset.

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Old 2012-05-03, 05:38   Link #4210
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And, wow! These people want the equivalent of 3 years worth of government budgeting! They should have gone for more!
No... it's one year.

Also, don't try shipping Heero and Relena together with that blurb, folks. The author states that she watched over him protectively like a nurse. That doesn't mean he's reciprocating anything.

Edit: secret clause it is! 機密事項
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Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight.
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Old 2012-05-03, 08:27   Link #4211
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You know... I think you're going too fanfic on this. Duo, okay, maybe that's an explanation, since I never thought he'd have become such a jerk, but Heero... well... we only assumed that he liked Relena.
But I don't believe he's going to actually kill her. Do you?
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Old 2012-05-03, 09:12   Link #4212
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Continuing on... (does this satisfy people btw?)

Spoiler:
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戦っている人間には充実感がある。
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So why do people fight, anyway?
Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight.
People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle.
And it’s also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.
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Old 2012-05-03, 09:22   Link #4213
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at last they talked about something... relena for president ......may not be something romantic but at least they had some dialogue.....
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Old 2012-05-03, 16:24   Link #4214
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Thanks for the translations Deacon. They're highly appreciated, even if it's basically reading Preventer 5 lol.

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I still can't think of what he was recovering from after the whole Barton incident... he stumbled out of a wreaked Gundam and from what I was able to tell, collapsed of plain exhaustion.
We all know he was simulating.

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On a side note, why is Rashid and the rest of the Manguanac Corp. upset with Quatre? They were with him at New Edwards... even though they seemed to have disappeared halfway through the battle. Dammit Sumizawa! Get it together!
*blinks* You're right, they were totally with him. lol What a blooper yet again!
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Old 2012-05-03, 19:28   Link #4215
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Thanks for the latest GoL chapter (boring as it was) and translations as always, Deacon.

LOL @ at the Maganac goof.

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Old 2012-05-04, 01:16   Link #4216
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No... it's one year.

Also, don't try shipping Heero and Relena together with that blurb, folks. The author states that she watched over him protectively like a nurse. That doesn't mean he's reciprocating anything.

Edit: secret clause it is! 機密事項
opppsss.... Misread the numbers ^^; Also, thanks for taking the time to translate stuff. Really appreciated.

LOL! Does Heero ever reciprocate anything other then displeased?

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We all know he was simulating.
He just wanted to get close to them boobies!
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Old 2012-05-05, 16:07   Link #4217
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Yeah Deacon, your translations are really appreciated as always. Thank you!

By the way, are there any pics in this chapter?
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Old 2012-05-05, 16:16   Link #4218
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I would also like to say thanks to Deacon for the translations. Seriously I appreciate it so much!
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Old 2012-05-05, 19:07   Link #4219
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Yeah Deacon, your translations are really appreciated as always. Thank you!

By the way, are there any pics in this chapter?
I think they were posted a few pages back.

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Cover from FT and some pages of the manga
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Spoiler for Baby Heero:
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Old 2012-05-05, 20:00   Link #4220
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I think they were posted a few pages back.
Yeah, I saw that, but the baby Heero's pics are from GoL
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