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Old 2012-06-26, 18:22   Link #4501
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Seems the case when you consider the games. Poor ZZ was cut out fully from SRW and doesn't look like it'll ever be returning. NT seems to be the Zeta they will be using from here on out. Sort of like how they phased out Mazinger Z and will be using Shin Mazinger Z in its place from now on which seems more powerful than the Mazinkaiser.
The director has mentioned ZZ repeatedly. Not only that, but they haven't even covered CCA in Z despite the suits being in there.

ZZ isn't going anywhere. Despite it not having the greatest reputation eve it is still very popular as is Judau. They won't ever be dropping ZZ, not only but while New Translation does mess with a few things it certainly doesn't ZZ from happening as a whole, just a few specific changes.

Also Shin Mazinger will only last for so long. Z in it's original form along side Great is far to popular to just drop. AThe combo of Z/Great/Ufo Robo will assure that they will be used again. Plus if we ever do see the rumored reboot of Gren or Shin Great then we will see the same thing with others taking a back seat for a while. This is nothing new, they are just finally getting enough mainline series shows (Gundam, Z, Macross, Getter) that they need to start replacing and letting others breath and rest for a time.
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Old 2012-06-26, 22:40   Link #4502
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The director has mentioned ZZ repeatedly. Not only that, but they haven't even covered CCA in Z despite the suits being in there.

ZZ isn't going anywhere. Despite it not having the greatest reputation eve it is still very popular as is Judau. They won't ever be dropping ZZ, not only but while New Translation does mess with a few things it certainly doesn't ZZ from happening as a whole, just a few specific changes.

Also Shin Mazinger will only last for so long. Z in it's original form along side Great is far to popular to just drop. AThe combo of Z/Great/Ufo Robo will assure that they will be used again. Plus if we ever do see the rumored reboot of Gren or Shin Great then we will see the same thing with others taking a back seat for a while. This is nothing new, they are just finally getting enough mainline series shows (Gundam, Z, Macross, Getter) that they need to start replacing and letting others breath and rest for a time.
Well yeah, it isn't going anywhere. Since it doesn't seem to be getting into a new SRW for awhile, NT seems to be the thing if they're UC. Or Unicorn whenever it fills up may by the sole UC representation for a while. It's sorta like how Endless Waltz was thrown into every SRW it could get in while Wing TV was dropped for the longest time til the Z saga.

Z in its original form hasn't been in many SRW games in a while. It's usually just the Mazinger Z from Mazinkaiser. Though K had Mazinger Z but K was a disappointment as was Mazinger Z since it isn't as cool as Mazinkaiser which lead to them dropping it fast for Mazinkaiser again. With Shin around there's like no chance of ever getting the Original Mazinger Z again, just Mazinger Z of Mazinkaiser which is way different. Even that will have to compete with Mazinkaiser SKL.
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Old 2012-06-27, 00:10   Link #4503
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Hm, I found a few sale numbers. Volume 2 of Glory and Volume 1 of Teardrop. The First number is first week sales and the last number is the current lifetime sales. These sales are from 2/21-2/27 2011 so they are first week sales for Teardrop and Week 2 sales for Glory

47 -- *,*19,724 *,*19,724 ** * 新機動戦記ガンダムW Frozen Teardrop 贖罪の輪舞 上
48 -- *,*19,625 *,*28,128 *2 - 新機動戦記ガンダムW ENDLESS WALTZ 敗者たちの栄光 2

Here are Unicorn novel sales starting from Volume 4 in comparison

機動戦士ガンダムUC 4 パラオ攻略戦
14634部 24402部
機動戦士ガンダムUC 5 ラプラスの亡霊
22999部 38360部
機動戦士ガンダムUC 6 重力の井戸の底で
23381部 38040部
機動戦士ガンダムUC 7 黒いユニコーン
36853部 36853部
機動戦士ガンダムUC 8 宇宙と惑星と 特装版
19922部 29081部
機動戦士ガンダムUC 8 宇宙と惑星と
19965部 31705部
機動戦士ガンダムUC 9 虹の彼方に 上
12983部 42283部
機動戦士ガンダムUC 10 虹の彼方に 下
12873部 41734部

Both started off better than many Unicorn novels. I'll have to search harder for lifetime sales for the Teardrop and Glory stuff but those are good sales for Gundam. Gundam mostly profits off of model kits and DVD/Blu ray. Everything else is just extra money.
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Old 2012-06-27, 00:23   Link #4504
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Mobile Suit Gundam 00F 1 44 * 21,171

61 ** 75 * 9,525 * 24,288 * 2 - Hajime Yatate (original) / Kou Tokita, a (still) 00F 2 Mobile Suit Gundam, (Screenplay) / Kadokawa Group Publishing Yoshiyuki Tomino Tomohiro Chiba

54. * 15,157 *, Mobile Suit Gundam * 15,157 1 * 2 + 00F 4


* 60 - * 16,299 *, 11 schools in the Sky Gundam Ecole du Ciel Mobile Suit * 16,299 * 1

* 8 * 3 *, * 43,115 *, 168,791 * 2 - Hen before Sune - THE ORIGIN Mobile Suit Gundam 17

9,768 * 69 40 **, 17 THE ORIGIN Mobile Suit Gundam 195,838 * 4 - Hen Sune before -

69 - * 13,008 *, 11 Portrait of a Young Comet Mobile Suit Gundam CDA * 13,008 * 1

9,411 * 79 ** 69, 11 Portrait of a Young Comet Mobile Suit Gundam CDA * 22,419 * 2


Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha StrikerS THE COMICS 2 is 42 * 22,631
Shugo Chara 48 * 20,132! Six
38 * 25,289 D.Gray-man 14
BLEACH 1 Spirits Are Forever With You Sun 12/06/01 * 17 times * part * 63,279 10,182 * part # 16 * # 1 of 3
BLEACH 2 Spirits Are Forever With You Sun 12/06/01 * 17 * part time * 9,565 ** 56,581 unit # 19 of * # 2 of 3

Other stuff to compare
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Old 2012-06-27, 00:38   Link #4505
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I tried poking around, but found out the Oricon ranking site is for Japanese only I'll see if I can't find any more 2ch sites. I can find rankings for their debut week but that's about it.
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So why do people fight, anyway?
Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight.
People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle.
And itís also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.
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Old 2012-06-27, 02:07   Link #4506
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Well yeah, it isn't going anywhere. Since it doesn't seem to be getting into a new SRW for awhile, NT seems to be the thing if they're UC. Or Unicorn whenever it fills up may by the sole UC representation for a while. It's sorta like how Endless Waltz was thrown into every SRW it could get in while Wing TV was dropped for the longest time til the Z saga.

Z in its original form hasn't been in many SRW games in a while. It's usually just the Mazinger Z from Mazinkaiser. Though K had Mazinger Z but K was a disappointment as was Mazinger Z since it isn't as cool as Mazinkaiser which lead to them dropping it fast for Mazinkaiser again. With Shin around there's like no chance of ever getting the Original Mazinger Z again, just Mazinger Z of Mazinkaiser which is way different. Even that will have to compete with Mazinkaiser SKL.
The original Z along with Gren and Great where leads in Z1, so only one game ago.

I rally think we need to wait 10 more years given the dev time and how long it takes the Banpresto team to make full mainline games like SRW Alpha and Z's.

Interesting numbers for the early EW reboots. I mean I didn't figure they where doing badly given Bandai already saying they where going with with more Wing EW MG's. That said, I have to wonder about how they hold because there was alot more hype at the start then we generally see now. I would like to see the comparision between book 5/6 of FT or 2 of GoL compared to the latest OO release.
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Old 2012-06-27, 03:11   Link #4507
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The original Z along with Gren and Great where leads in Z1, so only one game ago.

I rally think we need to wait 10 more years given the dev time and how long it takes the Banpresto team to make full mainline games like SRW Alpha and Z's.

Interesting numbers for the early EW reboots. I mean I didn't figure they where doing badly given Bandai already saying they where going with with more Wing EW MG's. That said, I have to wonder about how they hold because there was alot more hype at the start then we generally see now. I would like to see the comparision between book 5/6 of FT or 2 of GoL compared to the latest OO release.
It was replaced by Shin Mazinger Z in the sequel which will also be the Mazinger representation for Z3 considering important plot points. Such as tying Baron Ashura from Shin as a major player for the upcoming battle with Baal.

But we're getting off topic here.
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Old 2012-06-27, 14:57   Link #4508
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And because I found this and thought we would all LOVE it and wish for it to be true:

http://kotaku.com/5921304/japanese-p...working-gundam
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Old 2012-06-27, 15:49   Link #4509
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And because I found this and thought we would all LOVE it and wish for it to be true:

http://kotaku.com/5921304/japanese-p...working-gundam
I saw that link on Reddit. Man, that would be absolutely amazing if it happened! Then again, it'd cost a lot of cash!

Just joined in, by the way. Been following this thread for ages!
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Old 2012-06-27, 20:39   Link #4510
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And because I found this and thought we would all LOVE it and wish for it to be true:

http://kotaku.com/5921304/japanese-p...working-gundam
Over on MAHQ's facebook we've been batting it back and forth for the past 24 hours, we've actually figured out it would be easily doable for the Japanese, costly but if they produced two versions one for military use and one for private sector use it could be very profitable for the Japanese government. Power source wise it would be most likely to see either a fossil fuel version like the Anf from 00, or a battery powered suit like from seed. It would basically fill the role of a 60 foot tall walking tank that has an intimidation factor but unless air superiority is under their control it would be a big fat target for an aerial attack.

Though I think ANN found the story out before Kotaku if I'm right...
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Old 2012-06-27, 22:12   Link #4511
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Have they learned nothing? You never start with Gundam, you need Zaku's first!
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Old 2012-06-28, 15:49   Link #4512
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Soooo we have a page spread for this month:

Prometheus is jabbered about on the left, and on the right, a listing with some pics of the mobile suits.

MOBILE SUITS

- Snow White
- Prometheus
- Gundam Epyon
- Warlock
- Gundam Epyon Pai
- Scheherazade
- Tallgeese Heaven (Which looks like Wing Zero, oddly enough unless that's supposed to be the Epyon Pai, which I think it is given the pic layout)

MARS SUITS

MERCILESS FAIRIES
- Queen of Hearts (Commander Unit)
- Jack of Spades (transformable underwater type)
- Ace of Clubs (heavy bombardment specialist type)
- Ace of Spades (heavy bombardment specialist type)
- Ace of Diamonds (heavy bombardment specialist type)
- Six of Clubs (heavy weapons land combat type)
- Six of Spades (heavy weapons land combat type)
- Six of Diamonds (heavy weapons land combat type)
- Eight of Clubs (transformable underwater type)
- Eight of Spades (transformable underwater type)
- Eight of Diamonds (transformable underwater type)
- Eight of Hearts (transformable underwater type)
- Unmanned Type
MOBILE DOLLS

Maguanac
Virgo IV

DETAILS FOR GLORY:

Heero meets with Relena.
Duo is watching from above.
Duo tosses both Relena and Heero a gun.
Relena is like WTF?!
Heero fires.
Relena is like omg!
Heero wipes her tears away.
"Relena Darlian is dead. Don't appear before me again."
Heero tells Duo they have a mission, they leave.
Relena tells herself "I want to become stronger, just like you..."
The chapter ends with Quatre and the Maguanacs preparing to attack the train. They're all covered in cloaks.

There is no Frozen Teardrop this month.
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そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」

So why do people fight, anyway?
Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight.
People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle.
And itís also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.
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Old 2012-06-28, 16:07   Link #4513
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Soooo we have a page spread for this month:

Prometheus is jabbered about on the left, and on the right, a listing with some pics of the mobile suits.

MOBILE SUITS

- Snow White
- Prometheus
- Gundam Epyon
- Warlock
- Gundam Epyon Pai
- Scheherazade
- Tallgeese Heaven (Which looks like Wing Zero, oddly enough unless that's supposed to be the Epyon Pai, which I think it is given the pic layout)

MARS SUITS

MERCILESS FAIRIES
- Queen of Hearts (Commander Unit)
- Jack of Spades (transformable underwater type)
- Ace of Clubs (heavy bombardment specialist type)
- Ace of Spades (heavy bombardment specialist type)
- Ace of Diamonds (heavy bombardment specialist type)
- Six of Clubs (heavy weapons land combat type)
- Six of Spades (heavy weapons land combat type)
- Six of Diamonds (heavy weapons land combat type)
- Eight of Clubs (transformable underwater type)
- Eight of Spades (transformable underwater type)
- Eight of Diamonds (transformable underwater type)
- Eight of Hearts (transformable underwater type)
- Unmanned Type
MOBILE DOLLS

Maguanac
Virgo IV

DETAILS FOR GLORY:

Heero meets with Relena.
Duo is watching from above.
Duo tosses both Relena and Heero a gun.
Relena is like WTF?!
Heero fires.
Relena is like omg!
Heero wipes her tears away.
"Relena Darlian is dead. Don't appear before me again."

Heero tells Duo they have a mission, they leave.
Relena tells herself "I want to become stronger, just like you..."
The chapter ends with Quatre and the Maguanacs preparing to attack the train. They're all covered in cloaks.

There is no Frozen Teardrop this month.
Given there is no FT, this would have to be GoL right? If so, this is a HUGE change not only for the relationship between Heero and Relena but Heero's character as a whole.

Or well it could be depending on how they play it. It could be that they are trying to bring the story more in line with the kind hearted boy that Heero was described as by Doctor J. Still very unexpected.
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Old 2012-06-28, 17:42   Link #4514
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Given there is no FT, this would have to be GoL right? If so, this is a HUGE change not only for the relationship between Heero and Relena but Heero's character as a whole.

Or well it could be depending on how they play it. It could be that they are trying to bring the story more in line with the kind hearted boy that Heero was described as by Doctor J. Still very unexpected.
I still have to see it for myself, but I guess it's better than Heero telling Relena he wants to kill her all the time. And she chasing after him even though he said he'd be killing her.
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Old 2012-06-28, 18:07   Link #4515
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So King and Queen are commander units, if the Queen of Hearts gave Warlock problems, I think the King units are on par with the Gundams from the TV series
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Old 2012-06-28, 19:43   Link #4516
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Soooo we have a page spread for this month:

Prometheus is jabbered about on the left, and on the right, a listing with some pics of the mobile suits.


DETAILS FOR GLORY:

Heero meets with Relena.
Duo is watching from above.
Duo tosses both Relena and Heero a gun.
Relena is like WTF?!
Heero fires.
Relena is like omg!
Heero wipes her tears away.
"Relena Darlian is dead. Don't appear before me again."
Heero tells Duo they have a mission, they leave.
Relena tells herself "I want to become stronger, just like you..."
The chapter ends with Quatre and the Maguanacs preparing to attack the train. They're all covered in cloaks.

There is no Frozen Teardrop this month.
I'll guess everything is cloaked save for Prometheus in the spread...?

Reading the rundown of Glory this month I couldn't stop laughing for a minute solid when I read "Duo tosses both Relena and Heero a gun.
Relena is like WTF?!
Heero fires.
Relena is like omg!"

Why can I see Duo totally doing something like that...
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Old 2012-06-29, 00:14   Link #4517
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Frozen Teardrop missing so much time is a problem. Especially since they are revealing everything at once. Probably trying to stir up interest. Are you going to post the pictures Deacon?
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Old 2012-06-29, 00:20   Link #4518
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Frozen Teardrop missing so much time is a problem. Especially since they are revealing everything at once. Probably trying to stir up interest. Are you going to post the pictures Deacon?
there's only lineart for Prometheus, this was just a master list of MS that have appeared on FT
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Old 2012-06-29, 00:23   Link #4519
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there's only lineart for Prometheus, this was just a master list of MS that have appeared on FT
Well he said some pictures so I figured more than Prometheus had a picture.
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Old 2012-06-29, 01:20   Link #4520
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Well, the pics shown are the cloaked Snow White and Warlock, the dueling Epyon units and then some weird shot of the Epyon White? *shrugs*

I'll throw out the shopped scan when I release Glory in the next couple of days.
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そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」

So why do people fight, anyway?
Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight.
People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle.
And itís also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.
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