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Old 2012-07-08, 00:10   Link #4621
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I feel like we need to make a bet on this one....

I will assume that it's going to be Relena and Heero Pilot.
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Old 2012-07-08, 00:14   Link #4622
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But doesn't Relena take care of Heero when he was injured? That Heero IS injured and that Relena is cleary taking care of him.
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Old 2012-07-08, 00:37   Link #4623
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Did you expect something completely off the wall? They're successors to the five Gundams, of course they're going to share the same themes. Prometheus looks exactly the way it should: a Heavyarms upgrade with some new armor patterns and a bunch of new weapons.

I expect the same out of the other 5 and look forward to it.

It seems like you expected something that's not Gundam Wing, and got upset when you found out it was.
You imply I'm upset.


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I feel like we need to make a bet on this one....

I will assume that it's going to be Relena and Heero Pilot.
Just what we need, Heero using a super Zero System with Relena as a sub-pilot. Their Gundam will move by the power of "Love".
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Old 2012-07-08, 12:27   Link #4624
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Hm, seems I was mistaken. They slapped it in the Preventer 5 story in Volume 6 of the novel. Whoops. Guess I ignored it
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So why do people fight, anyway?
Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight.
People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle.
And itís also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.
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Old 2012-07-11, 04:40   Link #4625
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Hm, seems I was mistaken. They slapped it in the Preventer 5 story in Volume 6 of the novel. Whoops. Guess I ignored it
So that picture is Relena and Heero..? Probably sometime after EW..?
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Old 2012-07-11, 13:41   Link #4626
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So that picture is Relena and Heero..? Probably sometime after EW..?
I think that was the time Relena was taking care of Heero after EW. Before he disappeared again.
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Old 2012-07-11, 18:22   Link #4627
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I wonder if I could find the raw of GoL 21... does anyone know?
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Old 2012-07-12, 10:16   Link #4628
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Oh haha I forgot to release that huh? Whoops :P
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So why do people fight, anyway?
Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight.
People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle.
And itís also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.
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Old 2012-07-12, 19:22   Link #4629
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Oh haha I forgot to release that huh? Whoops :P
It happens...
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Old 2012-07-14, 12:52   Link #4630
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Episode 21 is out now :x
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戦うことに存在意義があるのかもしれない。
戦っている人間には充実感がある。
そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」

So why do people fight, anyway?
Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight.
People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle.
And itís also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.
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Old 2012-07-14, 15:25   Link #4631
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Thanks Deacon.

Looks like Noin isn't fighting like in the show. Would have liked her to fight during that battle. Wufei is probably out too like in the show. The current Leos are the Mark V/5. Do we know all 5 models now?

Duo carries multiple guns on him. Nice to know. Relena and Heero scene was okay. I liked it.
Who wants to take bets on how many chapters this battle is?

What happens after this fight makes or breaks this manga. It only gets made once a month and these next few parts in Wing were pretty much plot focused with not much true MS action until the Antarctica fight aside from Trowa's attack at the circus and Trowa underground in the sewer. Those are slaughters though so I don't really count them. I think Zechs may have had a part when he, Alex and Muller took over that base. People will lose interest if they drag on the plot portions too long. That seems to be a huge problem with both FT and Glory. No real focus or direction and plot that is dragged on too long.
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Old 2012-07-14, 18:49   Link #4632
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FT flashback had the following Leo models:
-Mark I, original ground Leo
-Mark II, original space Leo
-Mark III, Chimera, upgraded space Leo
-Mark IV, Grief, custom Leo for Specials

Mark V is new to me
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Old 2012-07-15, 01:17   Link #4633
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I'd venture to guess that the Mark V is the final variant that we see in the television series and what not.
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戦っている人間には充実感がある。
そして、戦っている人間が汚れて見えないのも事実だ」

So why do people fight, anyway?
Perhaps the meaning of existence lies within their will to fight.
People feel a sense of accomplishment through battle.
And itís also a fact that the ones actually fighting are never perceived as being tainted.
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Old 2012-07-16, 01:45   Link #4634
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quick question:

I know we've been though this a million times, but I can't seem to remember correctly... the PPP is a vaccine that helps prevents rapid aging, but there was something else that it did, something like prevent people from killing others..?

THANK YOU DEACON! You're work is always appreciated!
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Old 2012-07-16, 16:00   Link #4635
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Thanks for the release, Deacon. It's highly amusing how even Duo is fed up with Heero's and Relena's peculiar sense of flirting. xD

As for your question Eeni, firstly, I think the PPP is only the nanomachine mumbo jumbo inside the Mars aging vaccine. Secondly, it prevents people from harming Relena (I don't remember how it does that) and clogs up your blood vessels when Relena is killed by everyone but Heero.
...ah wait, that's probably how the "not harming Relena" thing works. :P

Another question: I'm watching EW and something has been nagging me about Heero trying to blast Mariemaia and Dekim to kingdom come. On the third shot, does he swerve to the left a little? He lowers the buster rifle a little after Dekim says Relena is down there with them, so I'm not sure if he pulls it back on target or points it a little to the left so as to not kill Relena.
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Old 2012-07-16, 18:29   Link #4636
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Thanks for the release, Deacon. It's highly amusing how even Duo is fed up with Heero's and Relena's peculiar sense of flirting. xD

As for your question Eeni, firstly, I think the PPP is only the nanomachine mumbo jumbo inside the Mars aging vaccine. Secondly, it prevents people from harming Relena (I don't remember how it does that) and clogs up your blood vessels when Relena is killed by everyone but Heero.
...ah wait, that's probably how the "not harming Relena" thing works. :P

Another question: I'm watching EW and something has been nagging me about Heero trying to blast Mariemaia and Dekim to kingdom come. On the third shot, does he swerve to the left a little? He lowers the buster rifle a little after Dekim says Relena is down there with them, so I'm not sure if he pulls it back on target or points it a little to the left so as to not kill Relena.
If you mean just before Relena put her hand over her chest (doing telepathy I guess ) I guess he pulls it back on target, he looked insisted, but then he remembered that little girl, maybe reminded by Mariemaia, or because that little girl as he "suddenly " remembered how Relena's life is important (to the world peace or to himself) so the target gets loosened.
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Old 2012-07-16, 18:46   Link #4637
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Thanks Deacon. OZ's Brickman Space Force. I love it. Interesting to see Trant and Sedici involved in the taking of Barge/Bulge.

Looking forward to the next chapter.

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Thanks Deacon.

Looks like Noin isn't fighting like in the show. Would have liked her to fight during that battle. Wufei is probably out too like in the show. The current Leos are the Mark V/5. Do we know all 5 models now?

Duo carries multiple guns on him. Nice to know. Relena and Heero scene was okay. I liked it.
Who wants to take bets on how many chapters this battle is?

What happens after this fight makes or breaks this manga. It only gets made once a month and these next few parts in Wing were pretty much plot focused with not much true MS action until the Antarctica fight aside from Trowa's attack at the circus and Trowa underground in the sewer. Those are slaughters though so I don't really count them. I think Zechs may have had a part when he, Alex and Muller took over that base. People will lose interest if they drag on the plot portions too long. That seems to be a huge problem with both FT and Glory. No real focus or direction and plot that is dragged on too long.
I'm going to say four.

Make or break? How so? We've already seen multiple chapters that featured zero action. With that said, we should see the Maganacs taking on OZ like in Episode 10 and Wufei helping Sally and her rebel group. But even Sumisawa skips those scenes, the next few chapters before the duel in Antarctica and colony arc will be entertaining.

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Another question: I'm watching EW and something has been nagging me about Heero trying to blast Mariemaia and Dekim to kingdom come. On the third shot, does he swerve to the left a little? He lowers the buster rifle a little after Dekim says Relena is down there with them, so I'm not sure if he pulls it back on target or points it a little to the left so as to not kill Relena.
I've never picked up on that. He definitely aims a little to the left after recalling the little girl and dog (among numerous others) he accidentally killed. Just another sign of his humanity surfacing.
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Old 2012-07-16, 22:03   Link #4638
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Actually, I remember it differently. I think Heero lowers the beam cannon after Dekim tells him Relena is there, but as he remembers the little girl he locks onto target again, because he doesn't want history to repeat itself...
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Old 2012-07-16, 22:06   Link #4639
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Another question: I'm watching EW and something has been nagging me about Heero trying to blast Mariemaia and Dekim to kingdom come. On the third shot, does he swerve to the left a little? He lowers the buster rifle a little after Dekim says Relena is down there with them, so I'm not sure if he pulls it back on target or points it a little to the left so as to not kill Relena.
For the most part, the tagline that I'm getting for EW is simply "stop war in a peaceful manner". Heero does pull his shot after remembering the little girl, ultimately allowing everyone in the bunker to live. We even get a whole sequence where all the gundam pilots plus Noin & Zechs stop all of Mariemaia's army without killing a single soldier (=_=;; and the Dorothy with the crowd having a peaceful protest to end violence.
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Old 2012-07-17, 01:27   Link #4640
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For the most part, the tagline that I'm getting for EW is simply "stop war in a peaceful manner". Heero does pull his shot after remembering the little girl, ultimately allowing everyone in the bunker to live. We even get a whole sequence where all the gundam pilots plus Noin & Zechs stop all of Mariemaia's army without killing a single soldier (=_=;; and the Dorothy with the crowd having a peaceful protest to end violence.
But Heero killed tons of Serpent pilots with all 3 shots and who knows who died inside the bunker when it collapsed.
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