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Old 2013-11-27, 01:21   Link #5701
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Is anyone hoping for a FT gunpla in 2014? Kinda full year with BF, UC and Origin starting in October...

I'd rather get a FT anime in late 2015 alongside the gunpla
I don't expect any Wing Gunpla in 2014, maybe they will squeeze in a Leo using the Leo Frame, but that is the only thing I see happening.

As far as 2015 goes, I honestly don't expect anything to be animated. I think the best Wing fans will ever get is stuff from Gundam Build Fighters. When it comes to Gunpla, I do think we will get some, but I think it will be based on Endless Waltz stuff and not Frozen Teardrop.
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Old 2013-11-27, 01:31   Link #5702
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we already have HGAC wing zero tv announced for march 2014 release. I think bandai will still release an MG for EW designs like what they did this year with tallgeese and proto zero
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Old 2013-11-27, 01:38   Link #5703
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I was meaning MG's. Given the All Gundam Project we could even see Zero EW in High Grade form. That said I still don't believe we will get any MG's.
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Old 2013-11-27, 03:15   Link #5704
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ROFL I totally mistook Heero Yuy for Ralph Kurt there. Derp.

Also, I just noticed that Heero is the only pilot whose "adult form" we've seen so far. Heh.

Thanks for the pics and links, gordol.
Sakura Asagi said that Ralph was based off of one of Heero's alternative character design.
(We've had a couple of characters that look like a grownup Heero so far.)
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Old 2013-11-27, 03:35   Link #5705
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And here I thought that was because Heero's overall design is generic as fuck where male protagonists from then are concerned.
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Old 2013-11-27, 09:45   Link #5706
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blacksun, you just gained an eternal friend.
LOL Anytime~

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Thanks for the album!!! Love that Cover~
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Old 2013-11-27, 23:44   Link #5707
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I'm pretty convinced now that Heero Pilot is the reincarnation of Heero Politician! He couldn't change the world through peace and talk so the next incarnation said "F' this! We're using guns and mechas this time!"
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Old 2013-11-28, 20:32   Link #5708
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God.

I really can't get over how much I love the art in Frozen Teardrop. The story may have disappointed in alot of regards, but I am thankful it exists just for all the amazing art.
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Old 2013-12-01, 15:05   Link #5709
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I wonder why politician!Heero is holding a yellow flower in his hand. Don't tell me he accidentally blew up a kid and her puppy, too.

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*snort* This chapter is golden. I'll skip the AC-150 part and just to the MC stuff. Updating in a bit...
I expect Heero/Duo shenanigans. I think gordol's summary said something about Heero being miffed that Duo is now taller than him and is carrying him around so easily.

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Sakura Asagi said that Ralph was based off of one of Heero's alternative character design.
(We've had a couple of characters that look like a grownup Heero so far.)
Oh? That's interesting. Though... feel free to call me dumb, but I don't see much of an alteration between the two.

Talk about lookalikes, say, wouldn't Duo without a braid be a brunette Quatre? A brunette Quatre who doesn't know what a comb looks like, perhaps.
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Old 2013-12-01, 16:53   Link #5710
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Oh? That's interesting. Though... feel free to call me dumb, but I don't see much of an alteration between the two.
I once saw in scans of some old magazine that had alternate designs of the characters in it and there were next to no difference between them and the final designs. There were like 3 to 4 Heeros shown and they were pretty much identical, so yeah.
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Old 2013-12-01, 18:05   Link #5711
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So....wow. Just revisited this forum and caught up with a bit of skimming. I'm still lost as to what's going on and what the plot is anymore but really, I got lost after they introduced nanobots. I'm not even going to react b/c as of now its like beating a dead horse and probably won't be able to say anything new.:P

Thanks you Deacon Blues and Ikuzeminna for the translations and the summaries. Your posts are always so informative

Just so I'm clarified on a few things, so the Noventas are in on this now and they're the new antagonist? Zech's children are now teamed up with Trowa and Quatre clones now? Is Relena still a bad guy? Did the novels ever say what Relena and Dorothy were talking about?
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Old 2013-12-01, 18:47   Link #5712
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Okay, so I thought it would be nice to share this. I happen to find this piece HILARIOUS and thought it would give ALL OF US a much needed break of pulling out our hair while we try to comprehend the maze trap that is FT. As fair warning, this little comic strip does contain a bit of nudity but it is all very tame and quite frankly, its nothing we all haven't seen:P.

I'm sure all males will appreciate this one :P : http://purdys99.deviantart.com/art/D...List-417227445

Is it ironic how a mild smut themed comic strip is able to capture the characters way better than the entire FT series? @_@

Also, please don't ever ask where I found this comic strip. I have seen things I will never be able to unsee T_____T (shrinks to fetal positionand weeps)
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Old 2013-12-01, 19:08   Link #5713
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I once saw in scans of some old magazine that had alternate designs of the characters in it and there were next to no difference between them and the final designs. There were like 3 to 4 Heeros shown and they were pretty much identical, so yeah.
Ah, I see. I'm severely late to the party, so I never saw any GW material back when the fandom was at its height. By now most sites are obsolete, thus getting your hands on such scans is difficult. So thanks for the info.

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Thank you Deacon Blues and Ikuzeminna for the translations and the summaries. Your posts are always so informative

Just so I'm clarified on a few things, so the Noventas are in on this now and they're the new antagonist? Zech's children are now teamed up with Trowa and Quatre clones now? Is Relena still a bad guy? Did the novels ever say what Relena and Dorothy were talking about?
No prob, though Deacon does way more than me.

And no, all the Noventas aren't bad. "Let's connect everyone to everyone" just struck here, making Stella Sylvia's niece.
Since Babel everybody has been on the same side. Zechs, his family, the other pilot clones and the old pilots, all one team.
As for Relena, from what I can tell she was never bad to begin with, so no, no Evilena. Perhaps Crazylena as she shot Heero right through the chest because... I dunno.
And the chapter I summarized did feature the conversation between Dorothy and Relena, I was just too lazy to write it down. Basically, it's the Peacecrafts and the total pacifism shmoo again; why Relena is helpless in her situation due to these ideals and how Relena doesn't want to (and can't, as she's a Peacecraft right now) achieve peace through murder, yet, Dorothy remarks, she gives Heero Yuy free reign in his actions.

Let's all ignore that her parents according to the gazillion of flashbacks we got weren't that big on pacifism to begin with. xD
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Old 2013-12-02, 02:54   Link #5714
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No prob, though Deacon does way more than me.

And no, all the Noventas aren't bad. "Let's connect everyone to everyone" just struck here, making Stella Sylvia's niece.
Since Babel everybody has been on the same side. Zechs, his family, the other pilot clones and the old pilots, all one team.
As for Relena, from what I can tell she was never bad to begin with, so no, no Evilena. Perhaps Crazylena as she shot Heero right through the chest because... I dunno.
And the chapter I summarized did feature the conversation between Dorothy and Relena, I was just too lazy to write it down. Basically, it's the Peacecrafts and the total pacifism shmoo again; why Relena is helpless in her situation due to these ideals and how Relena doesn't want to (and can't, as she's a Peacecraft right now) achieve peace through murder, yet, Dorothy remarks, she gives Heero Yuy free reign in his actions.

Let's all ignore that her parents according to the gazillion of flashbacks we got weren't that big on pacifism to begin with. xD
Arrrgh, why are they making Relena sound so stupid? Sumizawa just practically erased both hers and Heero's characters arcs from the entire series and has completely regressed them. Seriously. I would love to explore Relena's character after the events of EW, her coming to grips with the necessity of war while still trying to conduct diplomacy. That would be fascinating. I swear official GW writers are purposely preventing her from becoming an interesting character.

Though I am all for any scenes b/t Dorothy and Relena b/c I find them fascinating. From what you told me, I am completely on Team Dorothy right now for her calling out Relena's crap. Did Relena even have a response to Dorothy's dose of reason or did she just spout out more complete pacifist drivel?

Thanks again Ikuze Hope you'll look at the comic strip
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Old 2013-12-02, 15:11   Link #5715
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Arrrgh, why are they making Relena sound so stupid? Sumizawa just practically erased both hers and Heero's characters arcs from the entire series and has completely regressed them. Seriously. I would love to explore Relena's character after the events of EW, her coming to grips with the necessity of war while still trying to conduct diplomacy. That would be fascinating. I swear official GW writers are purposely preventing her from becoming an interesting character.

Though I am all for any scenes b/t Dorothy and Relena b/c I find them fascinating. From what you told me, I am completely on Team Dorothy right now for her calling out Relena's crap. Did Relena even have a response to Dorothy's dose of reason or did she just spout out more complete pacifist drivel?

Thanks again Ikuze Hope you'll look at the comic strip
Don't blame the writers for this regression, blame Sumizawa. If you recall, by the end of Endless Waltz, Relena told Barton that she had given up being a Peacecraft and instead accepted being a Darlin. In ohter words, she seems to have totally given up on pacifism.

"I no longer consider myself a Peacecraft. What is needed now is not a principle or an assertion."- Relena Darlin, Endless Waltz

And that doujinshi page... WTF TROWA?!?!?! Mariemaia is like 9!!!
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Old 2013-12-02, 15:18   Link #5716
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God.

I really can't get over how much I love the art in Frozen Teardrop. The story may have disappointed in alot of regards, but I am thankful it exists just for all the amazing art.
Well maybe after Seed Destiny HD finishes airing, maybe they're gonna go work on Glory of the Losers and Frozen Teardrop animated as a TV series or OVA series.
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Old 2013-12-02, 19:33   Link #5717
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It's nice to have new information about Frozen Teardrop
Interesting. Thanks for the albums' links (FT and GoL) Gordol!

I'm trying to translate the cover where both Heero (gundam pilot and colony leader) are...
So the new arc will be something like "Serenade of the Spiral" ? (螺旋 の 小夜曲) I hope I'm not reading it wrong. and "Two People 'Heero Yui' Fate for each one starts to move" (二人の " ヒイロユイ” それぞれの運命が動き出す)
I'm using google translator so I don't know if kanjis are ok, nor if the translation is accurate.

Anyway, I wonder if Hilde will treat Heero with nanomachines to make him recover? and I want to know what is gonna be Vingt's role in the MC era (is he the real one? a clone? Mariemaia's child? an AI?)
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Old 2013-12-02, 21:38   Link #5718
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Damn still 2 months until the BD box 2 releases, hopefully there are more FT pictures besides the ones shown
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Old 2013-12-02, 23:04   Link #5719
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It would be nice to get more FT Art with the Second Box Set, I have it paid off and am excited for it to arrive.

Outside of Madoka, Wing will be the only Anime I've taken the time to collect the only thing on Blu Ray.

As for Relena, I'm not so quick to throw Sumizawa under the bus on this one. Even during the series Relena and Milliardo know the power of the name, and it would make sense those behind the curtain on Mars would as well. As it was Relena was made President of Mars as a Figure head and not because it was what she wanted. It's very possible that she is Relena Peacecraft at this time because of choices outside of her own.

Remember this is something that Suzmizawa has used in the past. Daken always addressed Relena as a Peacecraft, including to Heero when he shows up in Zero. Having Relena being used for her name doesn't go against anything that has happened in Wing or EW. While we all owe Deacon a great deal, there are several elements that we haven't gotten given he has only been giving highlights for a while now. So again this could easily be something that Relena has had no choice in.

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Old 2013-12-04, 15:27   Link #5720
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I still hope that they'll end up showing the FT designs. I mean, the only one we've seen so far was the Prometheus, what if they're deliberately keeping them a secret and saving them for a possible ova, and that end up not happening?

Sure, we'll have a glimpse of Snow White on the picture drama, and even the Sieben Zwerge has been changed from the novel, but still... I want to see them — all of them — and without cloaks, for christ's sake.
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