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Old 2010-11-25, 21:02   Link #761
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Can anyone post a link for the latest Pixiv FT fanarts, please?
The latest trend seems to be having Father Maxwell dressing Heero up in nun outfits, resulting in a flood of battle-nun-Heero art.
I ain't saving or postin' it, for obvious reasons.

But I'll try to post up any good stuff I have found in a bit. On pixiv so far it's mostly been lots of Duo Jr. and old!Duo/Father Maxwell stuff, so far. Lots of (artistic~) Heero nudity. Lots of Duo Jr. bitching at Heero.
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Old 2010-11-25, 21:04   Link #762
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Speaking of art, even though I doubt it will happen, I hope we get to see what the young OZ crew Treize assembled looks like.
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Old 2010-11-25, 22:46   Link #763
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The latest trend seems to be having Father Maxwell dressing Heero up in nun outfits, resulting in a flood of battle-nun-Heero art.
I ain't saving or postin' it, for obvious reasons.

But I'll try to post up any good stuff I have found in a bit. On pixiv so far it's mostly been lots of Duo Jr. and old!Duo/Father Maxwell stuff, so far. Lots of (artistic~) Heero nudity. Lots of Duo Jr. bitching at Heero.
Oh...

Thanks. For not posting it... lol
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Old 2010-11-26, 04:42   Link #764
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Also, Relena was also put into cold sleep. Score! xD
Thank God. I was going into fandom cardiac arrest even after 10 years just from the thought of Heero being 17 and her being a granny.

Yes, this brought me out of lurker status. >.> *huggles 1xR*
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Old 2010-11-26, 05:35   Link #765
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Yayness. Glad to have one more person to discuss with. xD

On another note, updated the first post with a translated chapter link list:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...34&postcount=1

Just scroll down.

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Old 2010-11-26, 06:14   Link #766
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Thank God. I was going into fandom cardiac arrest even after 10 years just from the thought of Heero being 17 and her being a granny.

Yes, this brought me out of lurker status. >.> *huggles 1xR*
Am I dreaming here? No one here seems to hate Relena. And not only that, most support her and 1xR, and consider yaoi rubbish. Holy barnacles and I thought I wouldn't live long enough to see the day when the world has [at least] finally forgotten her. Aye, I wished that the world just forget her, rather than keep hearing people freaking bash her. Man I wanna live in this thread. T____T

I know some of you guys get annoyed by the constant bringing up of the shipping thing, but I couldn't resist. I had to say this.
Although... I gotta say I don't really care that much anymore about 1xR. I just really like Relena--the girl didn't deserve the bashing. She deserved NONE of it. She's the best Gundam lead female to date for me. I hate how she is bloody underrated and overly insulted. Bloody insecure women. One time... I defended her, next thing I know I'm called a homophobe. What the. I didn't even say a thing about yaoi and I'm a homophobe?!

If there's one thing I ain't ever taking back, it's my words claiming she's awesome and Heero is one heck of a lucky guy!

Anyway... guys, carry on.

Last edited by MichaelKnight; 2010-11-26 at 08:16. Reason: Grammar issues. Well, I did say I'm from Ozzy so... it shouldn't be surprising. lol
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Old 2010-11-26, 06:39   Link #767
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I don't think you have anything to worry about considering "fans" who hate Relena tend to fall under this category:



I don't get the whole homophobia accusation either. Just because you don't ship yaoi for GW does not make you homophobic. They don't know how you ship for other shows. They don't know if you ship slash for other fandoms. They're not even aware of the sexual orientation of the people they're accusing. For all they know, they're accusing someone homosexual of being homophobic just because that person doesn't like 1x2. That's both oxymoronic and moronic. Glad the fandom on here is smarter than that.

Besides, out of most of the yaoi fanfics I've seen, Duo seems to almost always be characterized as overly feminine and a poorly masked author avatar. Self-insert with a dick, basically. I mean...have they seen how Duo acts on the show? He does not melt into a crying puddle of jealous angst just because Heero runs off to rescue Relena. Endless Waltz is more than enough proof of that. Japanese version has him mocking Heero saying "Somebody's got a crush." when he runs off to save Relena. IMO, fans who disregard canon and claim their fanon is superior to the actual show are not fans at all.

Sorry, long rant is long. xD God, the fandom is full of crazies.
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Old 2010-11-26, 07:05   Link #768
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Besides, out of most of the yaoi fanfics I've seen, Duo seems to almost always be characterized as overly feminine and a poorly masked author avatar. Self-insert with a dick, basically. I mean...have they seen how Duo acts on the show? He does not melt into a crying puddle of jealous angst just because Heero runs off to rescue Relena. Endless Waltz is more than enough proof of that. Japanese version has him mocking Heero saying "Somebody's got a crush." when he runs off to save Relena. IMO, fans who disregard canon and claim their fanon is superior to the actual show are not fans at all.

Sorry, long rant is long. xD God, the fandom is full of crazies.
You know....how bout we get 1xR and yaoi community gets 3x4?? Eh? Ehh?? Everyone goes home happy....and some of us even get to double dip some...

I'm not sure what it is about Heero...this may sound really pathetic but I sit here 10 years later and now in my twenties and still have a crush on the guy. >.> Yay for the anonymity of the internet so I can admit that!
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Old 2010-11-26, 07:16   Link #769
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Yayness. Glad to have one more person to discuss with. xD

On another note, updated the first post with a translated chapter link list:
http://forums.animesuki.com/showpost...34&postcount=1

Just scroll down.

"Relena, I will kill you."

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PFFFT. No you won't.

BTW You are my hero for posting this!
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Old 2010-11-26, 07:40   Link #770
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You know....how bout we get 1xR and yaoi community gets 3x4??
Honestly, even the 3x4 crap, I don't get it. Even though I've seen Wing only twice, I'm 100% positive there was never anything that seemed to me like shipping Trowa and Quatre officially. I was seriously pissed when I read the entry on TV Tropes. Why was that thing there?!

I got nothing against men going out with other men, nor do I mind women going out with other women.

But what disturbs me is the fact that these fangirls, [what's funnier is that ALL those that I KNOW are straight, have boyfriends/interested in a guy, and would scream 'yuck' at Katy Perry's Firework MV], fantasise about two [or more] male anime characters--who are straight by canon, mind you--making out. Fine, ok, do it if it makes you happy. I do find it weird, but I'm not gonna argue with you. But to bash the official love interest to no end? That ticks me. I also hate a particular female anime character, but that's as far as I go, saying I hate her and that I find her annoying. BUT I NEVER say things like "she's a bitch, etc.", like her other haters [although I'd be a hypocrite if I say I'm not glad she's hated by others. I am. But seriously, calling her names?] I don't mind people saying they hate Relena. You like what you like, I like what I like, you hate what I like, I hate what you like. Case closed. Just as long as they don't badmouth her and die persuading other people, who haven't even seen Wing yet, to hate her too.

I was actually worried that the yaoi fans have gotten into Sumisawa because we're obviously outnumbered here. But finding out Relena was also frozen, despite not liking the whole hibernation thing going on, was a massive relief.

Last edited by MichaelKnight; 2010-11-26 at 08:06. Reason: Tried shortening it... but FAILED. Again.
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Old 2010-11-26, 08:04   Link #771
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Honestly, even the 3x4 crap, I don't get it. Even though I've only seen Wing twice, I'm 100% positive there was never anything that seemed to me like shipping Trowa and Quatre officially. I was seriously pissed when I read the entry on TV Tropes. Why was that thing there?!
I didn't read this TV Troupe thing but the reason 1x2 never even occurred to me was because it just...never made any sense. I've watched the series with many people over the years and to all of them it seemed painfully obvious that there was a star-crossed attraction between Heero and Relena.

3x4 makes more sense to me because well...Quatre and Trowa actually spend quality time alone together especially in the beginning of the series. That and considering the amount of character development allotted for the pilots (excluding Heero) a lot of their's bounces off each other.

Quatre befriends Trowa -> Trowa spends time with the core and Quatre -> Trowa sacrifices himself to save the colony and Quatre from the zero system -> Quatre goes to look for Trowa at the circus and starts crying when he finds him -> Trowa goes to find Quatre and finds him on Libra shishkabobed by Dorothy etc...

The series really isn't about romantic relationships but as far as they go in this anime 3x4 definitely has more of a leg to stand on than 1x2. >.> Or maybe they are just good friends. ^.^ I dunno...but they are cute together.
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Old 2010-11-26, 09:33   Link #772
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The thing about 3x4 is it undermines the idea that two guys can have a brotherly affection for each other and just be friends without wanting to bang each other. I mean, seriously, some guys who are friends do act like that. That's why the term "bromance" was invented. Also, sacrificing yourself for someone doesn't necessarily mean "OMG! Truluv!" If you watch any war drama, men on the battlefield sacrifice themselves for each other all the time. It doesn't instantly mean any homoeroticism. I won't deny that there's something there but it's not necessarily romantic. But I guess that's why shipper glasses exist...
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Old 2010-11-26, 11:50   Link #773
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New stuff from Japanese blogs:
http://recluse.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-925.html
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/ganota/20101126/1290766997
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Old 2010-11-26, 13:29   Link #774
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...why do we have to open this can of worms? I mean, Gundam Wing was never about se- I mean romance. It's about politics and war and peace and different ideologies and huge ass robots beating the crap out of each other. That stuff. The main focus was never on who has the hots for whom, even though a huge percentage of the so called fandom seems to believe that.

It's fine if people like two characters. And it's fine if people like to pair those two characters, regardless of the gender. But don't go shoving it down my throat when I'm more focused on the plot and don't want to pay attention to 'omg Q-chan just blasted his sweetheart with his ray of love!!!!1'. To me, it's not the point.

And GW being GW allows me to take the liberty to view it differently anyway. Yes, it could be that Quatre snapped out of his ZERO craze because he thought he killed his first love. Or it could be that the boy with the daddy issues, who went on a bloody rampage because the colonies that first betrayed him killed his father afterwards, stopped blasting said colonies to smithereens and killing thousands in the process because the first true friend he ever had (who oh so happens to resemble his dad) allowed him to kill him to remind him of the pain of loss he was causing and helped him accept that yes, all the battles they had fought to that point were in vain and that he shouldn't kill his own heart to change the minds of people. No matter how cheap, peace was peace and a kind person like him should just live in it and not cause more unnecessary bloodshed to further burden him.

So yeah, it works for both friend and lover theories, but to me the point wasn't proving one or another. To me it was about not being able to change the world alone. If the colonies wished for peace through OZ, the Gundam pilots had to accept that fact. ...okay, and it was a moving display of friendship. But please don't go interpreting love into stuff like Heero using Duo's name or Wu Fei crying after Treize's death. That's like saying 'I breathe because I like the smell of air'.

I don't think I would mind pairings in GW fandom if they weren't so mindless and people stopped forcing them on others. Yes, I have read a few fanfics, both yaoi and het and I gotta say, curiosity killed the cat. If I hadn't heard of the term OOC before that day, I sure did then. Why do some yaoi writers bother pairing two guys if one of them acts like a complete chick anyway? Heck, even Relena would be manlier than some fanfic Duos I've seen. Same with some het fics. I don't think Heero, who admitted that prior to his duel with Zechs had never even shaken anyone's hand, is going to suddenly go all Don Juan on Relena. And I also don't think that Queen Badass herself will be a nervous, stuttering, blushing wreck on a date with him when she took on the world's leaders and turned the tables in her favor without breaking a sweat.

I don't mean to sound offending or even grumpy and I certainly don't want to belittle anyone's preferences. Hey, if it's done skillfully I enjoy it myself. But sometimes it just makes me shake my head, so if someone can't take a jibe, please forgive me. I just think it's funny when people initiate flame wars about pairings in GW when its genre obviously is a different one. Honestly, who actually liked the sappy cheesecake that was Ein's and Angelina's love story?
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Old 2010-11-26, 13:40   Link #775
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Honestly, even the 3x4 crap, I don't get it. Even though I've seen Wing only twice, I'm 100% positive there was never anything that seemed to me like shipping Trowa and Quatre officially. I was seriously pissed when I read the entry on TV Tropes. Why was that thing there?!
This is the only one I could ever say 'yeah, I could see it'. I think it's very one sided and I'm not going into it here because I'm one of those that doesn't want this thread devolving into a shipping discussion, but it's worth pointing out that the part from TV Tropes that you mentioned as saying it was canon somewhere was from the (I believe) Latin American dub of Gundam Wing, in which yes, Quatre was apparently canonly gay for Trowa.

ANYWAY

I promised art last night so here it is! A Van pic (no clue what he's saying though) and some Heero and Duo Jr stuff:

Spoiler for Warning for Heero nudity (nothing shows) in one of 'em lol:


Also I said I wouldn't post the battle nun stuff but I lol'd at this comic making fun of them:
Spoiler for Translation below from a friend, also warning for more Heero nudity:
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Old 2010-11-26, 13:55   Link #776
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IMO, fans who disregard canon and claim their fanon is superior to the actual show are not fans at all.
THIS!

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ANYWAY

I promised art last night so here it is! A Van pic (no clue what he's saying though) and some Heero and Duo Jr stuff:

Spoiler for Warning for Heero nudity (nothing shows) in one of 'em lol:


Also I said I wouldn't post the battle nun stuff but I lol'd at this comic making fun of them:
Spoiler for Translation below from a friend, also warning for more Heero nudity:
The third and fourth pictures are really good.

"Come home with us, Sister."

EDIT:

1x2 is a joke of pairing and I won't even address it. With 3x4, I've always wondered how a shipper would explain why after EW Quatre took over his father's company and Trowa returned to the circus. If they were so in love, why not be together? *shrugs and walks off
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Old 2010-11-26, 13:59   Link #777
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Or it could be that the boy with the daddy issues, who went on a bloody rampage because the colonies that first betrayed him killed his father afterwards, stopped blasting said colonies to smithereens and killing thousands in the process because the first true friend he ever had (who oh so happens to resemble his dad) allowed him to kill him to remind him of the pain of loss he was causing and helped him accept that yes, all the battles they had fought to that point were in vain and that he shouldn't kill his own heart to change the minds of people. No matter how cheap, peace was peace and a kind person like him should just live in it and not cause more unnecessary bloodshed to further burden him.
Oh wow...I only noticed now but Quatre's dad is totally Trowa with a pornstache. O_O That's hilarious. xD

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I don't think Heero, who admitted that prior to his duel with Zechs had never even shaken anyone's hand, is going to suddenly go all Don Juan on Relena. And I also don't think that Queen Badass herself will be a nervous, stuttering, blushing wreck on a date with him when she took on the world's leaders and turned the tables in her favor without breaking a sweat.
THIS. Anything between those two would be awkward at best. Also, she definitely wears the pants in their relationship dynamic (friendly or otherwise). It's seen in canon how easily she can turn the tables on him with Party Night being a prime example. She asked him to dance while he held a gun to her face, for heaven's sake. That's gutsy.

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I don't mean to sound offending or even grumpy and I certainly don't want to belittle anyone's preferences. Hey, if it's done skillfully I enjoy it myself. But sometimes it just makes me shake my head, so if someone can't take a jibe, please forgive me. I just think it's funny when people initiate flame wars about pairings in GW when its genre obviously is a different one. Honestly, who actually liked the sappy cheesecake that was Ein's and Angelina's love story?
Nah, no harm done. No flame wars here. We were just discussing the ridiculousness of fandom in general. Granted, if Sumisawa's baking more sappy cheesecake with established canon using this novel, some people are going to be disgruntled. Let's just hope the people here who end up affected (myself included) can manage to get a handle on it. Also, let's hope we don't get another flood of crazy. As far as I can see, that short interlude into shipping discussion was tame compared to what's outside this thread.

Back on topic:
http://recluse.blog60.fc2.com/blog-entry-925.html
http://d.hatena.ne.jp/ganota/20101126/1290766997

Babelfish is not cooperating but something is said about Heero meeting Dorothy? Also, Vingt and Angelina are killed by an exploding bouquet of flowers? Yeah, Babelfish is a crazy fish. -_-
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Old 2010-11-26, 14:01   Link #778
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Is the EW DVD cover at the bottom of the page some unreleased special edition?
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Old 2010-11-26, 14:03   Link #779
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It's the cover for the 2007 remastered re-release.
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Old 2010-11-26, 14:21   Link #780
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Oh wow...I only noticed now but Quatre's dad is totally Trowa with a pornstache. O_O That's hilarious. xD
You never noticed? XD Yeah that's one of the uh *ahem* awkward things when someone points that out for 3x4....
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Also, Vingt and Angelina are killed by an exploding bouquet of flowers? Yeah, Babelfish is a crazy fish. -_-
Haha, oh man... wasn't I just talking to you about that Bambi Takada doujin with the story 'Death Bouquet'?

Called it again. Wonder if Heero delivered it...
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