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Old 2010-12-06, 11:12   Link #1141
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And Elo, complain may not have been the best choice of words but Wu Fei does belittle Heero's decision. He says 'if that's the case (meaning Heero going after Relena), I was giving him too much credit'. To me he sounds like quite the hypocrite to derogate a guy's obsession over a girl, considering what he is doing
But what exactly is he doing? He had a vendetta against Treize(for very good reason) and after losing his home colony, went on some kamikaze-like missions at times. I don't see how he's hypocritical when in the same thought, he was self-deprecating.
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Old 2010-12-06, 12:37   Link #1142
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But what exactly is he doing? He had a vendetta against Treize(for very good reason) and after losing his home colony, went on some kamikaze-like missions at times. I don't see how he's hypocritical when in the same thought, he was self-deprecating.
It's funny how we say the same thing but disagree xD I don't deny him being self-deprecating there. That's exactly why I say he has no room to talk. Provided of course that his wife's death was what caused him to adopt his belief in justice and participate in the war in the first place. As you said, he has good reason for his vendetta. I'm just adding that his reason is a girl, hence why it's so funny/ironic that he would say what he said about Heero. Sorry if I don't make myself clear.

So, considering translation uncertainties it could be that Heero, too was frozen and defrosted just once? Gah, why can't they just write a name next to spoken text. It's not that much trouble >_>
My utmost respect to all those trying to translate FT. It seems really difficult.
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Old 2010-12-06, 12:47   Link #1143
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It's funny how we say the same thing but disagree xD I don't deny him being self-deprecating there. That's exactly why I say he has no room to talk. Provided of course that his wife's death was what caused him to adopt his belief in justice and participate in the war in the first place. As you said, he has good reason for his vendetta. I'm just adding that his reason is a girl, hence why it's so funny/ironic that he would say what he said about Heero. Sorry if I don't make myself clear.
Ah...agreed.
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Old 2010-12-06, 14:59   Link #1144
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Ah...agreed.
As I said Blasted net, not carrying intonation.

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@IkuzeMinna I wouldn't be surprised if the theory that Duo Jr. is Heero and Relena's love child proves true should the boy's attitude be any indication. He could have been conceived in the time those two ran amok between freezings. There was also that bit about Duo Jr. going "Hn..." in an earlier chapter, I think? Duo's wife may have been who Duo Jr. recognized as his mother hence Duo's statement about having trouble with him after the mother died. Another case of the foster mom stunt they pulled with Relena and Mrs. Darlian. And since both Heero and Relena have memory problems, they won't remember the kid if this is the case. Man, I want the next chapter of this trainwreck already... xD
LOL. With the women in FT being all too eager to bear the children of their beloved ones, it's not even far-fetched xD But seriously, Heero looks even younger in FT than he did in EW. I assume he must've been frozen not long after AC 196. He sure doesn't look like he's reached his twenties yet.

By the way, thanks a lot for the chapter Deacon. I took the liberty of upping it to mediafire, seeing that people have trouble with torrents. I hope you don't mind.

http://www.mediafire.com/?1blq0h3i8ii73z8

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Old 2010-12-06, 15:46   Link #1145
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LOL. With the women in FT being all to eager to bear the children of their beloved ones, it's not even far-fetched xD But seriously, Heero looks even younger in FT than he did in EW. I assume he must've been frozen not long after AC 196. He sure doesn't look like he's reached his twenties yet.

By the way, thanks a lot for the chapter Deacon. I took the liberty of upping it to mediafire, seeing that people have trouble with torrents. I hope you don't mind.

http://www.mediafire.com/?1blq0h3i8ii73z8
Yeah, Iunno guys, I'm seriously not buying the 1xR lovechild thing for Jr. H+R's ages, what we know of how little they interact on a normal basis, and c'mon, Relena has a better head on her shoulders than that... We shall see but I'm stickin' to what we've been told. And yeah, Heero can't possibly be over 18, if even 17, from what we've seen.

Also- THANK YOU! /downloads
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Old 2010-12-06, 17:53   Link #1146
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Then Relena goes Euphienator and it's up to Heero to stop her? xD
Wasn't Euphie based on Relena and Lacus?

And Suzaku was based on Kira?
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Old 2010-12-06, 17:53   Link #1147
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can anyone out there please tell me how often new chapters of frozen teardrop is being released? cause when i first got wind of it i droped my coke zero all over my shirt :3 if it's monthly i might actually leave my laptop alone and go out in to open air and sunshine a little more often....though right now it's cold and the sun may be shinig but ice is still slippery, Quote the Shadow
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Old 2010-12-06, 18:02   Link #1148
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Wasn't Euphie based on Relena and Lacus?

And Suzaku was based on Kira?
AFAIK yes.
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can anyone out there please tell me how often new chapters of frozen teardrop is being released?
FT and GotD are both monthly. Gundam Ace is a monthly publication.
As for the translations... whenever the translators feel like it, I assume lol
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Old 2010-12-06, 18:03   Link #1149
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Wasn't Euphie based on Relena and Lacus?

And Suzaku was based on Kira?
I think Euphy and Suzaku were both considered deconstructed expies of Lacus and Kira, yes, though I don't think there's any official word on the matter.
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Old 2010-12-06, 18:06   Link #1150
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Gundam is one big game of self referencing, always has been.

Sayla --> Relena --> Kihel and Lacus --> Euphie --> Marina

Amuro --> (everyone lol, but in this example) Kira and Heero, while
Kira --> Suzaku
Heero --> Setsuna

Char --> you should know this already

For more fun:
Duo --> Garrod and Neil!Lockon

etc.
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Old 2010-12-06, 18:09   Link #1151
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... but Code Geass isn't Gundam.
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Old 2010-12-06, 18:10   Link #1152
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... but Code Geass isn't Gundam.
No, but it's still Sunrise, and practically all they do with their original works is self-reference.
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Old 2010-12-06, 18:33   Link #1153
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does that mean zero is a char? cause both of them have charismatic apeal.
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Old 2010-12-06, 18:42   Link #1154
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Hell, he has the whole package- scorned prince with a secret identity hidden with an alias and face hidden under a mask leading a rebellion against the empire that screwed him/his family over.

..Except that, too, ended up quite deconstructed.
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Old 2010-12-06, 18:44   Link #1155
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Wasn't Euphie based on Relena and Lacus?

And Suzaku was based on Kira?
oh for the love of god. you should seriously get over the relena and clyne thing. i know im a bitch so just... stop already. most of your posts is always about relating lacus clyne to things. u worship her?? great. but please don't make this about her all the fucking time. cuz each time you see a post that mentions seed or another pink haired character, you seem to make that an excuse to bring her up. *rolls eyes* how is it even important to this thread if she really is related to them? she's not even a character in this novel or gw. ughh. have a lovely day. xoxoxoxox
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Old 2010-12-06, 18:50   Link #1156
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oh for the love of god. you should seriously get over the relena and clyne thing. i know im a bitch so just... stop already. most of your posts is always about relating lacus clyne to things. u worship her?? great. but please don't make this about her all the fucking time. cuz each time you see a post that mentions seed or another pink haired character, you seem to make that an excuse to bring her up. *rolls eyes* how is it even important to this thread if she really is related to them? she's not even a character in this novel or gw. ughh. have a lovely day. xoxoxoxox
Okay, I'll just say this once. Please, chill the hell out. Regardless of Washu's like for the character, asking about the comparison between Euphy and Lacus is a legitimate question.
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Old 2010-12-06, 18:53   Link #1157
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...a little offending, aren't we?
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Old 2010-12-06, 19:01   Link #1158
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I'm not gonna take sides or anything. So I suggest we move on...

Someone open a different topic fast! PLEASE!!
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Old 2010-12-06, 19:06   Link #1159
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Ah yeah, here's a topic. A little off, but I'm just curious. I read a post saying Turn A is the endpoint of the universes. So that includes AC, of course. Can someone explain how Turn A is related to other series? I haven't seen it so I don't know. T___T

EDIT: @IkuzeMinna Hey dude, thanks for uploading it on mediafire. Good stuff!
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Old 2010-12-06, 20:03   Link #1160
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I read a post saying Turn A is the endpoint of the universes. So that includes AC, of course. Can someone explain how Turn A is related to other series? I haven't seen it so I don't know. T___T
It's more of a "what if" situation for every universe prior to it. It's a huge spoiler for the series but basically:

Spoiler for giant Turn-A spoilers:
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