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Old 2011-01-01, 15:07   Link #1761
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@Kit Lol, insinuations. So Heero's been calling everyone his bitch all this time? *pauses* Makes sense.
Well, it's part of his character. He's a rude douchebag!
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Old 2011-01-01, 15:10   Link #1762
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haha, at first glance this all sounds like a joke. Then you wonder if Sumizawa will pull it all around and it'll make sense at some point... o_O or not.

Wait, so Evil (Badass!)!Relena took the Mars federation presidency.
Zechs declared war on everyone, including her?
Heero/ ESUN/ Preventer wants her dead.

Is that right? It's confusing.

Well, maybe, if Relena is on the total pacifism trip again, ESUN/ Zechs faction realized it's a failed ideology (which Relena Darlian did too), and somehow figure it's dangerous and will attract problems? King Peacecraft was sort of dangerous to his people in my eyes.
Katerine stealing (!?) a MS and running off to join Relena like that somehow makes me think among these lines.

But I'm really confused.
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Old 2011-01-01, 15:15   Link #1763
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Yeah, with Katherine running off and joining Relena, I'm starting to wonder if it'll be some kind of weird boys vs girls MS battle thing... XD

But yeah, what I'm confused about is WHO is declaring war on WHO (is that Relena or Milliardo (or "Zechs"!?) making that announcement...? And who's the ""So it's Merquise, huh?"" dialogue there belong to?
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Old 2011-01-01, 15:23   Link #1764
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Haha, they'd loose, if no one else joins them!

That, and if Zechs cloned himself AND/or froze himself, when did he do that? Did he clone Noin too? Because, well hey, that would be awkward if he didn't.
And what about the kids? Are they kids? Or clones? It seems weird that someone would have a family, then clone/freeze themselves and who raised them?
Milliardo (the dead one)? Then they should've cared he was killed, right?
It's also weird because Milliardo was apparently so old. Duo was estimated as early 40s so Milliardo would be 50-ish.

People age at different speeds, yes, BUT not so much that one is Bombshell-icious (Catherine) and one completely wrinkly and old.
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Old 2011-01-01, 15:24   Link #1765
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It's also weird because Milliardo was apparently so old. Duo was estimated as early 40s so Milliardo would be 50-ish.
Not even. If Duo/Tro/Quat etc are 40, Milly and Noin'd be 44-45. :/
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Old 2011-01-01, 15:26   Link #1766
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In SEED, clones tend to be sickly and age faster so maybe Sumisawa's pulling that shit.
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Old 2011-01-01, 15:28   Link #1767
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Not even. If Duo's 40, Milly'd be 44-45. :/
true, I was thinking he would be a maximum, in any case, whatever he did of 50, but it's really lower.
So I can't see how he could be especially old and wrinkly. Not even if he took up chain smoking, comatose-drinking and whatnot @_@


edit: winzerosnuggles: oh, good point. That would make "Milliardo" the clone of the younger Zechs? I guess we would know if we can confirm as how old "Zechs" was described...
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Old 2011-01-01, 15:30   Link #1768
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I never saw Toonami's page but I know the (laughably bad) gundamofficial website still has their Wing sections. http://www.gundamofficial.com/www_ac/gw/index.htm

And Heero calls everyone 'omae', Duo, Quatre, Zechs, Noin, Sally, even Relena, so.

@Samilia I don't think she's back to being a pacifist... so to speak ^^; That seems to be part of the problem, I guess.
Lol I loved Toonami's Gundam Wing page...and they even had a Gundam Wing game with a midi version of Just Communication as the theme song, it was awesome! And your right, that page does suck.

I can't imagine Heero calling anyone a bitch, even considering how douchey he's being haha so that's why I found it amusing. If I knew omae was the word used then i woulnd't have even considered it.

I thought that but then figured that if she's going back to being a Peacecraft (or if thats her clone...or WHATEVERlkdf) then she's going back to her pacifist ideals and try to once again create a neutral nation.
But if she's not then that would make a lot more sense. Perhaps Relena Darlian was frozen because her evil Peacecraft clone was trying to have her killed
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Old 2011-01-01, 15:30   Link #1769
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Not even if he took up chain smoking, comatose-drinking and whatnot @_@
/reminded of the art of Zechs with the Wild Turkey bottle... XD

I wonder if they had just some random guy standing in for him... >.>

But yeah, jeez, what about their kids? And poor Noin.. x.x; The crap she puts up with for him, eesh.
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Old 2011-01-01, 15:41   Link #1770
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I agree that probably the pacifism is the problem. Always thought Cinq was overly idealistic AND a bit fanatic- Katerine running off like that somehow might imply that too :s but it's just a guess

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/reminded of the art of Zechs with the Wild Turkey bottle... XD

I wonder if they had just some random guy standing in for him... >.>

But yeah, jeez, what about their kids? And poor Noin.. x.x; The crap she puts up with for him, eesh.

LOL I thought of that pic too Always loved it

Random guy xD It's hard to guess without pictures. I'm leaning towards the clone idea, otherwise what can it be?

Well, the kids- if Milliardo was an actual person and raised them in any way, or had contact to them, they SHOULD be bothered. Even if it isn't their real father? SO... either he's just an expendable clone/ genetic manipulation-something (like Rau, or Stellar&friends in Seed??!), or the kids are simply fishy^10.

Whatever he is, he better have thought about including Noin too, that would just be the icing on the cake, the poor girl. She's too nice xD
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Old 2011-01-01, 15:44   Link #1771
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true, I was thinking he would be a maximum, in any case, whatever he did of 50, but it's really lower.
So I can't see how he could be especially old and wrinkly. Not even if he took up chain smoking, comatose-drinking and whatnot @_@


edit: winzerosnuggles: oh, good point. That would make "Milliardo" the clone of the younger Zechs? I guess we would know if we can confirm as how old "Zechs" was described...


@Kitsoru & Skullfaerie i was reminded of that picture also I could totally picture him having an alchohol problem.

Zech's is described as being a young man with long blonde hair...so he was either frozen sometime soon after EW or he's a young clone.

And another thing that kind of irks me that Corpus pointed out was that the project took a SUPER LONG TIME to complete. Assuming that Relena spearheaded the thing, that would make everyone over 200 years old. so that means that everyone was frozen at some point, or Sumisawa has his timelines really muffed up. -___-
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Old 2011-01-01, 15:50   Link #1772
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Zech's is described as being a young man with long blonde hair...so he was either frozen sometime soon after EW or he's a young clone.

And another thing that kind of irks me that Corpus pointed out was that the project took a SUPER LONG TIME to complete. Assuming that Relena spearheaded the thing, that would make everyone over 200 years old. so that means that everyone was frozen at some point, or Sumisawa has his timelines really muffed up. -___-
Yeah. It's gotta be him OR a clone :/ None of this stupid CONVENIENT lookalike business (like with Trowa Phobos...)

Well no, but that WAS explained. Look back and read Deacon's translation of the terraforming process. It was the Europan algae that allowed the process, which SHOULD have taken 200 years, to take far less time.
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Old 2011-01-01, 15:53   Link #1773
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The lookalike business bothers me :s

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@Kitsoru & Skullfaerie i was reminded of that picture also I could totally picture him having an alchohol problem.

Zech's is described as being a young man with long blonde hair...so he was either frozen sometime soon after EW or he's a young clone.

And another thing that kind of irks me that Corpus pointed out was that the project took a SUPER LONG TIME to complete. Assuming that Relena spearheaded the thing, that would make everyone over 200 years old. so that means that everyone was frozen at some point, or Sumisawa has his timelines really muffed up. -___-
ahahaha, that would actually be quite funny Always pegged Noin as being quite the drinker too for some reason.

That would make the kids what, between 15-17 at minimum and then they were raised by some random?
I guess he's got to be the original, due to the age of Milliardo and the kids not caring.
Funny if the kids actually turned out to be the original 6&9 in the end. Disturbing too.

About the timeline: It's either a retcon, or, like someone, somewhere mentioned, the actual project might've started/been attempted way before Relena decided to take it up again, possibly?
edit: Kitsoru nailed it, and it was Deacon who explained it, sorry
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Old 2011-01-01, 15:54   Link #1774
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funny if the kids actually turned out to be the original 6&9 in the end. Disturbing too.
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Old 2011-01-01, 16:05   Link #1775
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So this is Invasion of the Body Snatchers now? >.> And here I thought Sumisawa just wanted to rip off War of the Worlds.
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Old 2011-01-01, 16:13   Link #1776
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@ Kitsoru From reading the summary provided, it did say that the guy WAS Zech's so I took it as that. It could be more doppleganger nonsense, IDK. But by the way it was put, I assumed that he's not. :]

And then also, the summary says "some 200 years ago Earth time...the terra forming of Mars was expedited by two happy accidents that brought Eurpoa Seaweed and Jupiter Moss to the planet and allowed them to flourish and eventually turned half the deserts into oceans and ultimately creating a habitable place." The moss/seaweed made the process faster, but it was still 200 years ago, or so this is saying. If Relena started the project, that makes everyone reallyold. But I'll read Deacon's translation, since apparently this is wrong.
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Old 2011-01-01, 16:15   Link #1777
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ahah, it's possible, and you know it. I mean, he's the man who had Treize tongued by his mum, made Relena a Char, sunk WufeixSally, so turning 6x9 into Angel Sanctuary style awkwardness while ripping off/parodying a couple of movies is sure not beyond him
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Old 2011-01-01, 16:21   Link #1778
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Treize is his Gary Stu so it's even weirder that he had him make out with Angelina.
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Old 2011-01-01, 16:33   Link #1779
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I'm sensing some traumatic past author mommy issues... :B

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Old 2011-01-01, 16:37   Link #1780
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If his mom was named Catherine, I will LOL even more.
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