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Old 2010-12-29, 14:24   Link #281
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Only one more left!? Why!! I want another season! Is there enough manga material for another??

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He is the man, truly. I love the "ANIKI!" moments as well. Oh, so good.

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I don't care if we don't see the rest of the battle since the winner is obvious (Maria). However, I'll be pissed if we don't find out what Maria's royal decree is. Stella's was pretty adorable, by the way.
Yeah... Maria would win that. I would like to see the fight because we'd get more Maria time, and we have been missing her in recent episodes.
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Old 2010-12-29, 15:46   Link #282
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Only one more left!? Why!! I want another season! Is there enough manga material for another??
Yeah, there should be enough material for one more season, as the current season material stops at around volume 7. (there's 11 volumes out right now, with a twelfth coming out in the spring)
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Old 2010-12-31, 05:34   Link #283
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Satisfying last episode. The over the top shounen themed battle certainly delivered, followed by some nice Maria development. Sure it's a shame we didn't see them go to Venus, though i'm guess that hasn't even happened in the manga yet. Really hope we see a third season, or at least OVA's. This is one show i don't want to see end for good.
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Old 2010-12-31, 06:25   Link #284
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It was a fun 2nd season; however, they brought up Venus, had a few episodes about it, and then dropped it completely... That was a bit disappointing. The tape from Nina has not been reviewed yet, either.

Therefore, overall, it was an entertaining season for the fun stuff, but the story left a lot to be desired. I do hope for a third season to hopefully resolve this.
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Old 2010-12-31, 07:44   Link #285
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It might have been better to leave the Venus subplot out of this season and keep it for a third season where it would have actually lead somewhere. The final episode didn't feel like a season finale at all. The last scene felt very forced, they tried to make it meaningful, but it wasn't nearly as good as the final scene of the first season.

If you take it as a regular episode, then it was very fun. Maria and Sister's battle delivered. Loved the MGS reference, Sister's God being Big Boss was awesome! Maria's decree, while not as cruel as I had imagined, was still demeaning for the guys. Sister was amazing

Overall, it was a very solid season. Less serious moments, and better humor.
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Old 2010-12-31, 15:18   Link #286
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Can anyone translate what is written in this screencap, please? The subbers didn't bother...
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Old 2010-12-31, 17:26   Link #287
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Can anyone translate what is written in this screencap, please? The subbers didn't bother...
It was Ric's wish he stated the previous episode: for everyone (except Nino) to address him in polite speech.
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Old 2010-12-31, 19:21   Link #288
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It was Ric's wish he stated the previous episode: for everyone (except Nino) to address him in polite speech.
Wasn't his desire for everyone to have common sense?

And what's written on Samurai's shirt?
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Old 2010-12-31, 20:29   Link #289
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Wasn't his desire for everyone to have common sense?

And what's written on Samurai's shirt?
Says Samurai.

Awesome episode, but I can't believe that was the finale already,
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Old 2011-01-01, 04:49   Link #290
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Says Samurai.

Awesome episode, but I can't believe that was the finale already,
And the front of his shirt says "magenai" (won't bend/submit). It's also a pun on his (chon)mage hairstyle.
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Old 2011-01-01, 04:57   Link #291
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Wasn't his desire for everyone to have common sense?
That's something he was hoping for back in season one. Ric has grown since then.
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Old 2011-01-01, 08:08   Link #292
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Old 2011-01-01, 16:23   Link #293
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So, that whole 'trip to Venus' thing we had going for 3 or so episodes went absolutely nowhere? Nice trolling there, SHAFT.

So... season 3, when?
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Old 2011-01-01, 16:24   Link #294
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So, that whole 'trip to Venus' thing we had going for 3 or so episodes went absolutely nowhere? Nice trolling there, SHAFT.
It's not trolling at all. For all we know it hasn't happened in the manga yet. The original material.
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Old 2011-01-01, 22:13   Link #295
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Maria is awesome her is the Sister fighting so fast they look like there just standing there

come on season 3
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Old 2011-01-02, 08:17   Link #296
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I watched the entire first season yesterday in one go and half of the second today. I'm so happy I did cause it's such a great show! I love all the weird characters and the jokes are great
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Old 2011-01-02, 11:45   Link #297
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Old 2011-01-02, 16:05   Link #298
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The final episode was a little disappointing, but there was so much Maria, I was happy. When we learned the reason she named her sheep that way, I laughed so hard. Poor Sister.
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Old 2011-01-02, 22:12   Link #299
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Maria is awesome her is the Sister fighting so fast they look like there just standing there
Best part about that segment was how the Mayor and Last Samurai trolled everybody into believing so. Talk about massive shit talking haha
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Old 2011-01-04, 11:08   Link #300
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What is this positive take on the series. You guys are all softies. XD

This review covers both seasons of the show. I’m too bored to write two different ones about something that is practically the same.

Many tend to group all SHAFT comedies at the same shelf, and I am no exception. Having the same production company, the same main voice actor, the same protagonist archetype, the same artsy animation, and the same wacky type of comedy tends to do that, especially if you are a comparison freak like I am. So yeah, I call this the Sayonara Zetsubo of 2010. The similarities are simply too many.

If you take into account what I wrote in my previous SHAFT comedy reviews (that’s right you suckers, go read those too) you will pretty much see there is little to talk about visuals, other than being artistic, full of fast panel switches, weird use of colors and shapes, throwing in real photographs and bizarre imagery from a myriad symbolisms and allusions to social and mental status of each situation. It is a fine way to help the viewer visualize how awkward and troubled the minds of the characters are, and to spice up the jokes. They even try to change the formula as the episodes move on, from slightly changing the gimmicks to even adding more info about one’s inner self. Still, each SHAFT comedy has its specific trademark gimmick; where Sayonara Zetsubo had the “I’m in despair” clip, Arakawa has the “blinking eye” clip. Lots of zooming to eyes that blink and sweat drops thrown around. Nice stuff to attract the eye (sic) but it got tiresome early on.

Still, I must say that the flying fish or the other bizarre stuff that are shown in this comedy are not as extreme or as memorable as the ones in Sayonara Zetsubo’s walls of texts or Bakemonogatari’s dark cardboard sceneries. It feels more mainstream and for a 2010 production even average and low-budgeted. I can’t help giving the Animation only a 7.

Something similar can be said about the music. The music score is not nearly as interesting as in the previous two comedies and the dialogues are to the most part not as complicating or smart. From a point on they even feel tedious and tiresome. They have enough text to laugh or get to know the characters but still of NOT those heights. Plus, most of the talking ends up being lukewarm jokes so it loses points even from that. So again, I give Music it a 7.

The story … yeah, typical SHAFT. They bait us with a spicy premise, this case being the romantic relationship between an orthological rich pragmatist and an absent-minded poor girl who claims to be an alien. And some episodes later, throws all of that away for random gags and stand alone weirdness around a bunch of nut-jobs who live under a bridge. I must say it sure packs more plot that the previous comedies as from time to time has some plot development, like the father of the protagonist trying to ruin his new life or the alien origin being looked upon a bit. All that are still greatly overlooked for comedy. And of course, there is no ending to it. So I can’t give the Story more than a 4.

The characters are the usual “unusual” bunch of misfits SHAFT is so famous of making all the time. Most of the humor is based on their total lack of common sense that helps the jokes to work better and the characters to be memorable. As usual, their appeal is mostly based on quirks and bizarre personality and not character development but again, for a SHAFT comedy the cast is colorized and developed more and beyond just the few episodes they appear in. So yeah, I must say that they are funny, memorable and given more attention than usual, making them better as overall. As usual, SHAFT baits you with lots of cute girls and then throws in some creepy males to even it out. It worked for me and it’s too bad nothing substantial occurred to them that changed them in overall. I still give the Characters an 8 for being more looked upon though.

Now as far as Enjoyment and Replay Value goes, I’m afraid the news are bad. The type of humor it implements starts to wear off rather fast and the succession of gags slows down more and more to the point you lose interest until the next joke comes up or you are even given the time to figure out the joke before it even occurs. My laughing meter was dropping with each episode, to the point it was bellow average in the last episodes of the second season. To be more precise, the scores I give to Enjoyment if this is considered a 26 episode comedy are 10 in episodes 1-3, 8 in 4-6, 6 in 7-20, and 4 in 61-26. It is a rather subjective thing how much others will like or dislike the humor but for me the jokes were getting old too fast and their quality dropped significantly, plus the storyless plot was getting to my nerves after awhile. So I can’t give this part more than a 5.

In all, this year’s Sayonara Zetsubo packed a bit more story and character development but at the same time had less interesting animation, music, and successful humor.

Damn you SHAFT; you refuse to outdo yourself!

Average: 6/10
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