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Old 2010-07-06, 15:26   Link #1
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[Manga] Chapter 501 Discussion

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Chapter Status: confirmed spoiler released...

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-Madara throws Naruto into the air, and then attempts to stab him with a kunai. Minato saves Naruto (with Hiraishin), but notices an exploding tag in Naruto's towel. Defusing the seal, Minato leaves Kushina and takes Naruto away...

-In the mean time, Madara steals Kushina, taking her to another area where he begins to start unsealing the Kyuubi. He explains that he will use the Kyuubi to attack Konoha. Kushina resists...

-It seems the Hiraishin seal was also placed on Kushina, so Madara doesn't have long before Minato appears.

-Using his Sharingan, Madara enters the Kyuubi's prison (the Kyuubi supposedly calls him Madara, or at least knows who he is), takes control of the beast, and then proceeds to take it out of Kushina. Kushina doesn't die immediately (cause she's cool like that?), and tries to stop Madara. Madara retaliates by having the Kyuubi try and kill her...

-But Minato arrives in time to save her.

-Chapter ends with Minato glaring at Madara...

-For some reason, there's an image of Itachi carrying Sasuke, looking at the moon and feeling strange...

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Old 2010-07-06, 15:30   Link #2
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The unconfirmed spoiler, taken from Chap 500 Discussion:
(Attention, there is a high chance of it being fake / false, time will clarify)

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Poissble spoiler for chapter 501

Spoiler:
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Old 2010-07-06, 15:46   Link #3
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That spoiler doesn't sound very unusual, a bit slow-paced, though.
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Old 2010-07-06, 15:48   Link #4
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That spoiler doesn't sound very unusual, a bit slow-paced, though.
But spoilers with this much detail and text are fake most of the time.
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Old 2010-07-06, 15:50   Link #5
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But spoilers with this much detail and text are fake most of the time.
-True and I do hope it is false.
Spoiler for Spoiler:
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Old 2010-07-06, 15:50   Link #6
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But spoilers with this much detail and text are fake most of the time.
Especially when they come out earlier than usual (spoilers come out late Tuesday to early Wednesday (US time) nowadays due to the Shueisha ban on spoilers/spoiler-providers).

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-True and I do hope it is false.
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I hope it is fake for similar reasons. Unless Kishimoto came up with several different mask designs, but then decided to have several different characters, instead of one character simply changing masks ..
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Old 2010-07-06, 15:53   Link #7
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-True and I do hope it is false.
Spoiler for Spoiler:
I know, just reading these "spoilers" made me feel dissapointed, It would be a very lame chapter if it really went like that.
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Especially when they come out earlier than usual (spoilers come out late Tuesday to early Wednesday (US time) nowadays due to the Shueisha ban on spoilers/spoiler-providers).
Exactly, most of the time Naruto spoilers come out at the same time as Bleach spoilers, and most of the time these spoilers are just 3-4 lines of text at best.

With the lack of spoilers for Bleach, I don't believe these spoilers for Naruto are legit.
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Old 2010-07-06, 15:54   Link #8
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Thank ya James. Isn't this around the time we usually get a likely spoiler anyway? Is this one just coming from a bad source?

Either way lets pretend there is a secret order of Tobi's

I half expected there to at least be two Madaras / Tobi's at a single time. We see the one who meets with Itachi in a differently designed outfit and with hair more like the Madara flashbacks. My whole Tobi = Obito thing kind of assumed Madara was around and made Obito his sucessor. Anyone watch The Prince's Bride? It would be a "dread pirate roberts" sort of thing. It doesn't matter so much who wears the mask, it's the name / reputation that is important. You could have a series of sharringan users who take that name one at a time.

I don't know though. The more I think of there being at least three masked men in that room the less I like it. Is it just some secret order? Tobi's entire "eye of the moon" plan kind of seemed like a one man goal to me. I don't know. I kind of hope it's fake because it's gonna take a lot of explaining to make much sense.
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Old 2010-07-06, 15:59   Link #9
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actually I kinda like it....

that Tobi is not just a one person... and might explain why tobi is getting nervious about kabuto's secret coffin/corpse
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Old 2010-07-06, 17:50   Link #10
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Having several guys who are really one one is not unprecedented, we have kage bunshins and other kind of clones (water, earth,...). Then we have 6 corpses of Nagato, which did look being alive. Or Sasori's puppets. Zetsu making a perfect clone of Kisame. And so on...

BTW the multiple masked men spoiler is quite interesting, i think it might be that Madara is leading a small group of Uchiha, among them Shishui (Itachi's best friend) and maybe even Sasuke's father. We always talked about Uchiha as one entity with one will, but maybe there were 2 factions, one which was for rebellion and one against. And if Madara approached some of the Uchiha with "an offer they cannot refuse" then a few of them could have betrayed their clan and the village. The reason i began thinking this is that Itachi must have had a reason to kill his "best friend", we know he would never kill just to gain MS (he didn't even kill Orochimaru or anyone from Konoha), there had to be a good reason. And of course why would Itachi ever discover the existence of Madara if not because he was investigating the case. Maybe Itachi as an ANBU was investigating the kyuubi incident and he found proof that some Uchiha were involved, but Shisui was spying on him and decided to kill Itachi before he reports to the hokage. If Itachi wanted to continue his investigation he had to deny the whole case, so he made the fake-suicide.
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Being more than one Madara will make it much more interesting.

I still don't believe Tobi is THE Uchiha Madara.
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Being more than one Madara will make it much more interesting.

I still don't believe Tobi is THE Uchiha Madara.
I thought that was always confirmed already.
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Old 2010-07-06, 22:22   Link #13
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Even Kishi would move the story along more that that. Madara story time only lasted two chapters. I can't see Kushina story time going longer than that.

The fingernail girl only posts the true spoiler. So let's wait for the real one.
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Old 2010-07-07, 00:04   Link #14
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Well I didn't think it was gonna go so smoothly. We need glitter fingers!!
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Old 2010-07-07, 00:24   Link #15
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Dang it , I miss he fake spoilers! It's been a while. The speculation, the suspense, and the DRAMA
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Old 2010-07-07, 00:51   Link #16
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Maybe the 1st took a page out of the Rikudo Sennin's book and split Madara's soul into a few pieces during their duel? Just thinking back to when Madara said he wanted to be whole again.
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Old 2010-07-07, 01:01   Link #17
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If the spoiler is real, I'll predict that the Jyuubi is controlling a bunch of dead Uchiha, using Madara as the template...then again, if there were multiple bodies why would Tobi/Madara go through all the hassle of getting a new arm when he could just get a new body .

That being said, the Tobi holding Naruto in 500 is not Obito. The person is too tall (and they have 2 hands ).
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If the spoiler's real, then I predict that Madara was the underling of another Uchiha and they had formed the original Akatsuki, then the kyuubi killed one upon release and Madara backstabbed the other one, hence the pants-pissing when he saw his dead face in Kabuto's box! [/crack]
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maybe he got auto-mail?
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Old 2010-07-07, 01:58   Link #19
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If the spoiler's real, then I predict that Madara was the underling of another Uchiha and they had formed the original Akatsuki, then the kyuubi killed one upon release and Madara backstabbed the other one, hence the pants-pissing when he saw his dead face in Kabuto's box! [/crack]

maybe he got auto-mail?
no... I think madara was killed by one of those masked man and gained his powers.....

hence saying... "The True Power of the sharingan..... My power... Uchiha Madara's Power"
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hence saying... "The True Power of the sharingan..... My power... Uchiha Madara's Power"
That line is an arrogant form of speech. Zabuza did something similar.
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