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Old 2004-04-14, 10:34   Link #201
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To me the "fanservice" is just bonus. Besides, it's not exactly like they're inserting random fanservices in the anime. The "fanservice" scenes usually have a joke/reason/purpose behind it. In fact, those boobs scene to me aren't "fanservice" at all. I felt those scene were natural to be there.
You are NOT getting my point.

I am NOT a guy, I'm a woman (notice I did not say "girl")... frankly BOOBS bore the crap out of me 'cause I see them every day in the mirror.

The fact is that I did not mind the boobs in eps 1 & 2 because they are canon in the manga. But bringing the hot spring material in episode 3 is fanservice. THAT scene comes much further in the manga series... so yes, it feels it's peddling to fanboys and while I've been raving about that manga/anime for months in my LJ, I will have to cease (on the anime part, at least) if it continues on...

The manga is interesting because it goes above that level of fanservice while frankly the anime seems to dwell on those shots (and it's edifying to read comments from people who have obviously NEVER read the manga since you are all titillated by the sexual hints in the anime; hints that are a lot less present in the manga. It's about characters there, not sex jokes)... so YES, it might become enough of a turn-off for me to drop the series, if it continues as it's going because I don't want my love of MnH to be tarnished. There are lots of ecchi series out there, Midori no Hibi did not need to turn into one too...
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Old 2004-04-14, 11:06   Link #202
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But so far they have not added any nudity where there wasn't any, and they haven't added any sex jokes where there wasn't any and that sort of thing.

If they do move the hot springs bit to episode 3 then it's earlier rather than later, but it's still out of the way and done with.

Now once they start inventing excuses for fanservice and betraying the comic tone of the manga for service service service they I think it's worth complaining.

But so far as of 2 episodes it's a great adaptation.
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Old 2004-04-14, 11:40   Link #203
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I'm expecting this series to play out similar to Popotan. People were turned off in the beginning due to the fanservice, but if they had only stayed around longer to watch the later part of the series, they would've realized that there was also a good plot and story included.
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Old 2004-04-14, 11:50   Link #204
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I like this series so far. It's quite funny and the relationship isn't too serious/desperate. I didn't mine the fanservice. Somehow it actually fit and doesn't get annoying like Tenjou Tenge.
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Old 2004-04-14, 11:55   Link #205
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Marin, I just don't think you get what I'm saying. It doesn't MATTER that the nudity was in the manga and that they aren't adding it in randomly. Them moving it around so that it's in every episode has the exact same effect. They're starting the show on a foundation of fanservice that does -not- adhere to the atmosphere that made the manga great. Once that's been set as the first impression, the show will remain a fanservice show in the audience's eyes regardless. If it's spread out over the course of the series, then it's a forgetable part of the experience, as it is in the manga (come on, they translated one panel of nudity from the manga into like 15 seconds of nipple rubbing in the anime).

Besides, through to that preview everything was going fine for me. I thought they were playing up the limited nudity a bit much, but I saw no reason to mention it. And now I'm virtually positive that episode 4 will be a combo ep for Takamizawa and'll have the nudity from chapter 18 of the manga.

And about the onsen scene, it -is- quite an important part of the story... very necessary, and the nudity shows us a lot about Rin's personality and provides a good limited sight gag. However given the current track record of this show and how they treat a pair of breasts as small as Midori's (anyone else think they gave her normal body a bit of a boost?), I can only imagine how they'll handle Rin's. I see floating coconuts in my future...
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Old 2004-04-14, 12:19   Link #206
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However given the current track record of this show and how they treat a pair of breasts as small as Midori's (anyone else think they gave her normal body a bit of a boost?), I can only imagine how they'll handle Rin's. I see floating coconuts in my future...
I've been wondering about that (and too lazy to check the manga) but I don't remember Midori being so well-endowed (for her size, I mean).

I do remember she was impressed by Rin's body... why would she, in the anime context where she sure has well-sized breasts on such a small chest (even MORE since she's laying down... sorry guys, but breasts just DON'T stay put like that when in THAT position, unless there's silicone involved ).
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Old 2004-04-14, 12:58   Link #207
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Even if they do include the hot springs scene, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. They are probably going to condense the 38+ chapters into 24 episodes, and then tack on some rushed shitty ending. Since 38 is larger than 26, naturally they'll be combining chapters, so it would make perfect sense if they clumped all/the first x of the chapters involving rin into a single episode. The fact that the hot springs scene is one of those chapters is beside the point.
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Old 2004-04-14, 14:07   Link #208
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I wonder what my Japanese girl friends think of the nudity in the show when we're translating... Probably not much, well not as much as mirichan, if at all. If I were reading this and had not seen the show, I would be given the impression that it contains a lot of offensive nudity - personally, I think you're blowing it out of proportion. And that tit rubbing scene (the one where Seiji shoves Midori into her own tit, right?) only lasts for 3s and is quite far from fanservice - it serves as a comic moment and not, say, like a random panty flash in other shows (now _that_ is fanservice). And looking at episode 01 - when the Dekult Ladies are in Seiji's house, with their short, short skirts there are ample opportunities for a random flash, but there are none. The only flash is when they're spinning around.
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Old 2004-04-14, 15:52   Link #209
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No, I find nothing offensive. Hell I enjoy porn, I have no reason to be turned off by animated nipples. What I don't like is the way they appear to be headed. And since this discussion is slightly slow if people only come in with little quips like "I like it now more than ever" and leave, I figured I should make that known to move the discussion along. And I do believe at least that much has been accomplished

And just fyi, the series is at chapter 73 in Japan right now (god, that color chap was disturbing...). They have plenty of things to choose from to make their 26 episode anime. And I'd bet my life savings that they won't use all of it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a good part of the anime is original.
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Old 2004-04-14, 16:15   Link #210
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No, I find nothing offensive. Hell I enjoy porn, I have no reason to be turned off by animated nipples. What I don't like is the way they appear to be headed. And since this discussion is slightly slow if people only come in with little quips like "I like it now more than ever" and leave, I figured I should make that known to move the discussion along. And I do believe at least that much has been accomplished

And just fyi, the series is at chapter 73 in Japan right now (god, that color chap was disturbing...). They have plenty of things to choose from to make their 26 episode anime. And I'd bet my life savings that they won't use all of it. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a good part of the anime is original.
Well, you have to realize that all you're doing is making assumptions. When it comes down to it, you have only guesses(pessimisstic ones, at that) as to where they're headed. It's not like many anime series aren't changed from the original manga version. Sometimes the manga has too much information, or perhaps it's a part that drags or just doesn't fit. There's alot of reasons for changes, so sitting here, seemingly bashing the series makes me wonder. If you feel so strongly that they are ruining the manga, why do you bother watching it? It's only two episodes in, so I think that making harsh critiques are a little premature. Maybe after we see alot of unnecessary fanservice, I'll join you. But so far, I'm not seeing anything to complain so much about.
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Old 2004-04-14, 16:16   Link #211
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It is the most hilarous anime i ever seen of my life! I quote this anime: 10/10
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Old 2004-04-14, 17:08   Link #212
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I don't dislike it yet. And I also don't pretend to know what's going to be in episodes 4+. I admit that I'm making broad assumptions, and it's not like it's a huge revelation that I am. If I'm right, then I'll applaud my own incredible foresight. And if I'm wrong then I'll happily watch a good anime adaptation of one of my favorite mangas. And so far I've enjoyed it the first 2 episodes. Like I said, the only thing that sparked any of this is the preview for episode 3.

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Old 2004-04-14, 20:49   Link #213
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And...is that bad thing ? Revealing a set of boobs once an episode is immaterial for me. Besides there's more to the anime than just boobs. But it seems the trend is going to continue, and it's likely that in episode 03 there will be another set of boobs revealed. This time I think it'll be Rin's.
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I surely wouldn't mind if they upped the boobs per episode ratio a bit
Concerning ep3: Really!? Darn... now I want it really bad...
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Old 2004-04-14, 23:06   Link #214
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I think Midori no Hibi's been awesome so far. I realize that fanservice can definitely be a turn-off for women viewers, as I've talked to my sister about series she's disliked (one of her most hated series: Love Hina). I guess for women it matters a lot. Then again, if I had to watch a series with a lot of muscular men getting semi-nude, I probably wouldn't enjoy it too much. Unless it had a great story or lots of comedy that made me want to watch it in spite of that fact.

I just am thankful that I am not a female anime viewer (but hell, there are lots of series for girls too, just they don't seem to get fansubbed as much :P).
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Old 2004-04-14, 23:57   Link #215
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Love this anime... quite sometime haven't see this kind of anime ehehe
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Old 2004-04-15, 06:41   Link #216
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I don't get it why is everyone so heated up about those 2 scenes that showed nipples in them .... It's not like we've never seen that before. As long as the show doesn't overdo it on that point or start throwing in random nakedness to attract viewers it's ok for me. They've had plenty of oportunities to throw in ecchi scenes yet they didn't do so. The only other time we've had something close to it was when we had those two girls spinning in epi 1 but that even ain't close to ecchi ...

Besides evry manga that get's translated to anime will have changes, the number of anime that stays very close to the original is rather rare.
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Old 2004-04-15, 19:18   Link #217
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hi there

im a female viewer and i dont mind this anime at all. i love it actually. it doesn't bother me that there are breasts and that sort of stuff. it goes with the whole theme of the anime. and its in the manga. so its good.

I have no objections to this. so i dont understand why people get worked up about it.

maybe i missed the point?

At the end of the day its anime. and therefore its good.
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Old 2004-04-16, 23:42   Link #218
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I'm loving this anime now too, Midori no Hibi is an anime I would nominate for best romance/comedy of the year.

Also this review I found at animenfo.com was too hilarious !!

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Allright, what the F***!!??

No seriously...what the F***!!??

Whatever the writer of MnH was smoking when he thought this sh*t up, he should smoke it more often! The plot is too ridiculous for words, but manages to make you laugh your ass off through the whole thing.
As far as I can say for the characters, they're pretty stereotype...but who cares, it a comedy.
Prepare yourself for possibly one of the best comedy's of 2004!
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Old 2004-04-17, 00:34   Link #219
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Haven't read the manga. I don't really care if they rearrange events from the manga, as long as the series doesn't become trash.
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Old 2004-04-17, 07:31   Link #220
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This is great already. I hope it pace up good. I didnt read the manga, and I wont read it till the series is finish. How many episode total for this series?
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