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Old 2010-07-31, 16:06   Link #181
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or... gin kills tosen, and aizen had his shikai on to make it look like komamura and hisagi killed tosen. i mean, come on. you guys didn't really believe tosen exploded in a shower of blood and cuts from a cut to the throat?
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Old 2010-07-31, 17:41   Link #182
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I will not be trolled by Kubo. I will not be trolled by Kubo. I will not be trolled by - dammit, I WANT THIS TO NOT BE A TROLL.
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Old 2010-07-31, 19:55   Link #183
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Also Kubo said that Aizen's Bankai would be revealed in summer of 2010.
Which would still fit, and which implies that Aizen doesn't die before showing Bankai.
Kubo never made any promise to reveal Ai-chan's Bankai, the only thing he's said on the matter, as T-dubs pointed out, was that it wouldn't be revealed in the Arrancar arc. Whether or not this is a new arc is unimportant. I would rather Ai-chan die with out revealing his Bankai. And not just because I want Gin to live, I doubt Kubo could think up anything as good as his Shikai, and we will get another Soi Fon situation on our hands.
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Old 2010-07-31, 21:49   Link #184
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hence the 'this'. he was speaking about the arc happening when the interview was made.
whether just changing location from fake kkt to real/ss kkt constitutes an arc change is another issue
It's not JUST a location change. Aizen has new powers. Ichigo is training. That more than constitutes for a new arc.
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Old 2010-07-31, 21:56   Link #185
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It's not JUST a location change. Aizen has new powers. Ichigo is training. That more than constitutes for a new arc.
Plus all the chapters are named the same. Thats the only real difference I'm seeing, Ai-chan being immortal and full of hax is not a new power.
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Old 2010-08-01, 00:51   Link #186
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It's not JUST a location change. Aizen has new powers. Ichigo is training. That more than constitutes for a new arc.
going that way, then the soul society arc would be split into several arcs.

rukongai
attack seretei
bankai training
aizen reveal

i'm pretty sure most people consider that one arc, not four.
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Old 2010-08-01, 01:54   Link #187
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I think it was kind of ironic, how this betrayal of Gin resembled the scene, where Aizen was trolling Shinji.
This kind of "I always knew I can't trust you" was very similar.

But actually I would find it much more interessting, if it wasn't really Gin doing this, but instead Matsumoto had some kind of hidden power of taking control of someone when beeing killed.
This might actually have a grain of truth to it. Aizen said he couldn't feel her riatsu... So maybe Gin and Matsumoto were always the same person? or rather, the Gin as we know it was really Matsumoto all along in his body and Matsumoto was really Gin. They might have switched bodies as children and then been switching them back and forth. And in this chapter maybe they are both in the Gin body?

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Old 2010-08-01, 02:29   Link #188
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lolwut. I think even Kubo wouldn't do something like that.
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Old 2010-08-01, 02:57   Link #189
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Q: Aizen's dead! But didn't you say you'd reveal his bankai this summer?
KT:.... I lied, bwahahahaha!
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Old 2010-08-01, 04:37   Link #190
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Old 2010-08-01, 08:17   Link #191
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and we discover that gin has been under the illusion all this time and that aizen was in fact matsumoto
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Old 2010-08-01, 08:40   Link #192
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Why did Ai-chan feel the need to kill Ichigo's friends before starting the Ouken ritual? As proven by earlier demonstration, he can't be disturbed mid-process by them, and even if he could it wouldn't take much for them to be taken out. If he intends them to be something to spur Ichigo on, wouldn't the smoking wreckage of Karakura do that better? The whole chasing process seems to just be pointless timewasting, almost as if Ai-chan doesn't want to actually get the key, instead to just make Ichigo a better fighter by giving him a target to reach - he could have made the Ouken, fought Ichigo and then used it.
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Old 2010-08-01, 09:39   Link #193
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You know what,

Perhaps Aizen's shikai was active all along, the whole arrancar act was just a joke, everyone is gonna break out of trance and he's gonna be like, 'Gotcha!'

On a more serious note, I believe Gin mortally damaged if not killed Aizen, he seems to be intelligent enough to time this precisely.

I'm still wondering who the heck the Spirit King is.
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Old 2010-08-01, 10:09   Link #194
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lolwut. I think even Kubo wouldn't do something like that.
Does Stark and Lilinette ring a bell?
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Old 2010-08-01, 10:17   Link #195
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Old 2010-08-01, 11:01   Link #196
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Does Stark and Lilinette ring a bell?
That was a little more...hollowy/expectable.
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Old 2010-08-01, 16:17   Link #197
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and we discover that gin has been under the illusion all this time and that aizen was in fact matsumoto
Good thing Gin already killed Matsumoto then. .
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Old 2010-08-01, 16:46   Link #198
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THEN WHO WAS AZIEN?

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Old 2010-08-01, 20:34   Link #199
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You really know hoe Tite shocked some people. He started the chapter off with Gin seemingly working with Aizen. I mean tell me you didn't think Gin was going to kill those kids.
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Old 2010-08-01, 20:37   Link #200
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Good thing Gin already killed Matsumoto then. .
We don't know if she is dead officially. We don't know if any of the heroes are dead officially.
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