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Old 2010-08-25, 08:31   Link #21
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To be fair I think Yamakan ran over he's cat, that may explain why he has a vendetta against him.
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Old 2010-08-25, 18:31   Link #22
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Wow.. get over yourself. Passing off personal preference and a vendetta against a director as though it's some enlightened commentary = fail. Not everyone's obliged to agree with your opinions. I certainly don't.
These aren't really opinions. Some fiction is just objectively bad (badly written, badly plotted, or something similar). Which of course doesn't mean you can't like it; I certainly enjoyed a lot of objectively bad shows, but you shouldn't try to pretend they're actually good. Everyone has their guilty pleasures.

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How long have you "been around" for anyway?
Longer than you!

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Obviously not long enough to realise that just because something is for the josei demographic doesn't make it inherently fantastic.
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The point was that trying to apply the "mo" label to a josei manga makes no sense. That being said, in my experience josei is by far the least retarded demographic. (Yes, least retarded. Unfortunately not even I can really generalize it to "shounen is bad"; every demographic contains pretty much 90% bad (Sturgeon's Law), it's just that josei tends to have the least amount of pure retardedness.)

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And you haven't looked very deeply into much, however long you've been around; A-1 Pictures pulls together some great animators for many of its anime.
What show(s) exactly animated by A-1 have had great animation?

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To be fair I think Yamakan ran over he's cat, that may explain why he has a vendetta against him.
I wish I had a cat ;_;
so I could let Yamakan run it over and hate him even more
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Old 2010-08-25, 19:17   Link #23
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These aren't really opinions. Some fiction is just objectively bad (badly written, badly plotted, or something similar).
I agree, but it can't be objectively bad before it's even been released.

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What show(s) exactly animated by A-1 have had great animation?
Kannagi had some stand out animation, especially contributions from Hiroki Tanaka, and Seiya Numata. Seiya Numata was animation director for episode 2, and contributed key animation as well. That episode was superbly animated. Hiroko Tanaka is another well-known animator who also one of many excellent animators pulled together under the joint Ordet and A-1 Pictures work on Black Rock Shooter. Granted, Hiroki Tanaka is freelance, but the fact is that Yamakan is able to gather some coveted animators for his projects, and his co-founded studio, Ordet has some talented members. Yamakan is also an accomplished episode director. His work on Haruhi and Kannagi was really good on a technical and creative level, and Kannagi showed that he has what it takes to be a series director (contrary to KyoAni's assessment). He's an outspoken director who can really bring a lot to an anime - not many episode directors have become famous for their dance choreography, after all!

Also, if you've ever read any of his interviews, you'll see that he isn't all about otaku-pandering at all. If this series fails, you'll be happy because he announced that he'll retire from anime if that happens. He'll probably just keep going with his live-action directing career XD

And for the record, So-ra-no-wo-to also had good animation, with a high number of drawings per episode. Unless you're making the basic mistake of confusing art and animation, you'll recognise this. I didn't watch Senkou no Night Raid, but episode 1 featured a really well-executed action sequence. Also Birdy the Mighty Decode is broadly recognised as a good example of a 'sakuga' anime by animation fans. Season 2 had some seriously amazing animation work, especially Hiroki Tanaka's stuff. And don't forget that an animation studio doesn't neccesarily imply how something will turn out, they are an ANIMATION studio (although there are exceptions). If A-1 Pictures is given a good original series to work on, there's no reason to say it'll be otaku-pandering, and there's a high chance it will be well-animated.

But I'll agree that Mari Okada's involvement isn't too inspiring.

In future, if you want to dissmiss something offhand, that's fine, but don't jump on someone who disagrees.
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Old 2010-08-25, 19:36   Link #24
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TheFluff, if you have nothing to say about the show itself, I suggest you create a thread in the General Anime section so you can rant all you want about "mo".

I would appreciate it, some people would appreciate it, if you don't continue the flame-bait/troll-bait, which is leading to nothing more than a rather silly, pointless and off-topic "discussion".

to everyone else still thinking in replying to his posts, either ignore him or pester him through PM's.
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Old 2010-09-10, 12:24   Link #25
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Ouch. The anime's chara design is pretty disappointing.
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Old 2010-09-10, 18:00   Link #26
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probably not something you would expect after looking at the concept illustration.

I have liked a similar style in the past, so it's fine for me. good things to say: it's a bit minimalistic but does a great job addressing form/space (and foreshortening); and you can easily tell each of the characters apart. I imagine the colors are going to be much brighter than the scan. oh and also liked the fact it's addressing the pupil of the eye.
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Old 2010-09-10, 19:41   Link #27
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...is it just me, or does the lead male look REALLY chubby for some reason?
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Old 2010-09-10, 20:09   Link #28
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...is it just me, or does the lead male look REALLY chubby for some reason?
He's the one that looks the worse of them all. Talk about being hit with the ugly stick.
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Old 2010-09-10, 21:03   Link #29
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Yeah, the character design transition did not fare well for the guy. At least this is not Sora no Woto levels of bad conversion, but it could have been much better especially since it's a noitaminA series.
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Old 2010-09-11, 01:11   Link #30
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Ouch. The anime's chara design is pretty disappointing.
I wouldn't say "disappointing", rather just "pleasant. Not great, not perfect, but certainly not dreck; just pleasent
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Old 2010-09-19, 22:34   Link #31
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Original Character Concept : Hidari (左)
HOLY SHIT, how did I miss that part?!?!?!

Rest of the staff be damned, this is the only part that's needed for me to watch this. Uso-tsuki Mii-kun to Kowareta Maa-chan and Tamako-san to Kashiwa-kun both have REALLLLLYYYY awesome character design (especially Tamako to Kashiwa, which has an awesomeeee volume 1 cover).

After briefly browsing the website (which I thought the characters look a ton better than that mag scan) I'm definitely in. Regardless, I have good faith in this until proven otherwise when the show airs.
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Old 2010-10-02, 12:11   Link #32
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Hey, good news! There's a manga that's going to start before the anime airing. You can read chapter 1 at GanGanOnline.

Hell, if you don't understand Japanese (like me!), you might as well read it anyway. Art is much better than the mag scan posts earlier. Too bad the official website kinda spoiled part of the story, but hell Furyune looks , Kurein/Kurin doesn't look half bad either.
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Old 2010-10-08, 16:27   Link #33
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http://journal.mycom.co.jp/news/2010...002/index.html

Presentation of the major characters. I love the original character design.
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Old 2010-10-08, 19:28   Link #34
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Moeran is a 40 years-old priest but she looks younger and I love her attractiveness.
Phryne is fine too.
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Old 2010-10-12, 21:40   Link #35
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I hope that's just the scan and not the actual quality of the show. Seems like it has a really low budget just from the art.
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Old 2010-10-17, 12:03   Link #36
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I'm not too hung up on art styles as much as smooth animation, i don't know what to expect, but as long as the boy isn't useless, it may warrant a watch from me ~(*,*~)
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Old 2010-10-27, 19:58   Link #37
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You guys do know that Yamakan said he will even risk retirement when this anime fails. Since Yamakan himself is putting too much hype on it, I'm slightly worried. What if it REALLY fails? This might be his final farewell.
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Old 2010-10-28, 07:53   Link #38
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Now you have really got me hyped. >_>

The man's putting his future on the line?
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Old 2010-10-28, 08:04   Link #39
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The man's putting his future on the line?
More like his words.
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Old 2010-10-30, 22:05   Link #40
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You guys do know that Yamakan said he will even risk retirement when this anime fails. Since Yamakan himself is putting too much hype on it, I'm slightly worried. What if it REALLY fails? This might be his final farewell.
Truly doubt he's putting his future on the line.

The website designs look nice.
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