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View Poll Results: Macross Frontier: Sayonara no Tsubasa Movie Rating
Perfect 10 40 42.11%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 33 34.74%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 12 12.63%
7 out of 10 : Good 5 5.26%
6 out of 10 : Average 3 3.16%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 2 2.11%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 0 0%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 0 0%
1 out of 10 : Painful 0 0%
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Old 2011-02-28, 02:26   Link #1241
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@raile

Spoiler:


thanks for sharing.. T_T

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Srsly? =_=
The triangle is finally resolved but yet...God.
It's sour graping. Let them vent and spin. Once a triangle is resolved in Macross, it's resolved.
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Old 2011-02-28, 02:32   Link #1242
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It's true!

Spoiler for TV!Ranka is movie!Sheryl:


So TV!Ranka = movie!Sheryl
TV!Sheryl = movie!Ranka

It's funny how Kawamori did that. XD
I have no idea if you are serious or just trolling, but all I can say is this:

Wow.
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Old 2011-02-28, 02:35   Link #1243
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I have no idea if you are serious or just trolling, but all I can say is this:

Wow.
I find it funny because ranka shipper called her a selfish bitch in the tv series.
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Old 2011-02-28, 02:41   Link #1244
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It's true!

Spoiler for TV!Ranka is movie!Sheryl:
Spoiler for that scene:


Anyway, I won't write anything else until I watch the movie.
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Old 2011-02-28, 02:42   Link #1245
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So TV!Ranka = movie!Sheryl
TV!Sheryl = movie!Ranka

It's funny how Kawamori did that. XD
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Old 2011-02-28, 02:56   Link #1246
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Wait...wut? I don't even...Never mind.

Most Ranka fans are known for their abnormal sense of logic anyway, just as most Sheryl fans are intensely rabid in their defense of the Fairy.

I mean, just look around here for the latter. (Me included)
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Old 2011-02-28, 02:58   Link #1247
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I'm quite serious. If you watch the TV series and then watch both movies, you'll see it too. TV!Ranka was exactly the same as movie!Sheryl. I actually accept this ending in that pretense. Kawamori basically just said "here is the return of TV!Ranka". Plus, wasn't it TV!Ranka who asked Alto why he wanted to fly and not movie!Ranka? movie!Sheryl is the one who took this scene in movie 1 alone. Forget movie 2, cause that would spoil it a little.
Actually I agree to a point with this, but it made seem Ranka/Alto incompatible in the TV series. Sheryl wasn't changed into Ranka, nope. But she was given a "traitor" plot, instead of Ranka. With Ranka helping to save her (but less dramatically ). And it carried out differently with vast different results
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Ranka knew she was going to leave so it seemed like a last ditch attempt to understand him). Alto's reaction wasn't "I'll nuke her face" or condemn her and he made painstakingly attempt to understand and reach out for Sheryl (what he didn't do for Ranka) since movie 1 after the shove misunderstanding.

Ranka isn't the issue. Or Sheryl. It's Alto who isn't just that
Spoiler for movie triangle ending spoiler:


Yot-chan could fill the blanks, about the second movie. Until then we can only wait.
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Old 2011-02-28, 03:01   Link #1248
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I'm quite serious. If you watch the TV series and then watch both movies, you'll see it too. TV!Ranka was exactly the same as movie!Sheryl. I actually accept this ending in that pretense. Kawamori basically just said "here is the return of TV!Ranka". Plus, wasn't it TV!Ranka who asked Alto why he wanted to fly and not movie!Ranka? movie!Sheryl is the one who took this scene in movie 1 alone.
Sheryl did not need to ask Alto about his reason for flying and vise-versa because they both achieved mutual understanding about the subject matter.

Ranka hasn't gotten a fucking clue in the TV or in the movie. Hell, at one point of the first movie she made a horribly dumb remark at Alto, something the latter had been trying to forget.

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In response to you, Thess, Ranka makes quite a few sacrifices for Sheryl in the TV series and the movie.
REALLY!? Thats ... news.

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The movie ending still looks quite fake to me


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Most Ranka fans are known for their abnormal sense of logic anyway, just as most Sheryl fans are intensely rabid in their defense of the Fairy.
Remember a particular Bleach fangirl with lots of pictures?

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Old 2011-02-28, 03:04   Link #1249
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That's why our ships should never meet...
...because we're like democrats.

*sigh*

I'll look forward to anyone who translates the interviews with Kawamori following the release of the movie.

A final note: I support AruRan till Kawamori says there was NO chance of it happening. I mean, Kawamori gave them BOTH equal terms. The movie ending still looks quite fake to me, given how he can make a 360 decision like that. I'll trust Kawamori's words only.

Thess, remember that personalities and emotions are what draw one person to another. Alto WAS quite into Ranka, but Sheryl came into the middle before their chemistry even got a chance to collide. But like I was saying, if Alto marries someone for personality (who he's compatible with), I believe it will be Ranka. Note that she is not entirely selfish. If she was aware Alto was hers no matter what, the Frontier would be first. Remember that Alto wants to protect Ranka over Sheryl (hence his "I want to protect you" in movie 2). Ozma mentions putting his woman first is the way to show them we love them.
There is denial, now there is bargaining.
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There is denial, now there is bargaining.
I miss my Psychology classes.
Or relegating responsibilities?

Like Gaddafi blaming Osama Bin-Laden for his country's current upheaval?

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You should see her raging on her forums. It was pretty damn amusing.
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Who's denying? I'm just trying to put logic into it.
Logic? Wut?

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To me, this ending is fake for that very reason.
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You should see her raging on her forums. It was pretty damn amusing.
No thanks, last time I responded to her post it took about 3 hours, I won't commit the same mistake again, unless I want to risk being insane.

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A final note: I support AruRan till Kawamori says there was NO chance of it happening. I mean, Kawamori gave them BOTH equal terms. The movie ending still looks quite fake to me, given how he can make a 360 decision like that. I'll trust Kawamori's words only.

Spoiler for ...er:
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Well, shouldn't really be surprised, considering this is almost like the entire Aerith-Tifa brouhaha cometh again.
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Or relegating responsibilities?

Like Gaddafi blaming Osama Bin-Laden for his country's current upheaval?

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"I won't believe in such an ending until Kawamori really confirms it blah blah."

Yup, bargaining.

But yeah, relegating responsibilities, that too.
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"I won't believe in such an ending until Kawamori really confirms it blah blah."
Yeah, but how much... confirmation does one really need at this point?

This is it, folks... eat it.

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Well, shouldn't really be surprised, considering this is almost like the entire Aerith-Tifa brouhaha cometh again.
As much as I love Aerith, she is dead Jim... dead... you can't do much with... dead...

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Yeah, but how much... confirmation does one really need at this point?

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That's the denial part.
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LoveMeKags: Let me ask you a question... do you want to be true to Kawamori's "Vision" or stay with the TV series ending ("Yoshino's vision"). Because I see a lot of sour-graping and a lot of grasping on Kawamori.

This movie is Kawamori's vision. He said: don't rewatch the tv series latter half. Watch Macross Zero instead for mood.

If you want to stick at the TV series ending, don't go around saying you are listening to Kawamori. Mmokay?

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Yeah, but how much... confirmation does one really need at this point?

This is it, folks... eat it.
Wasn't it called The End of Triangle?


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@Tak:

That's the thing. There are still some who believe otherwise.
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Wasn't it called The End of Triangle?
Hell. That's even the name of the official soundtrack to be released.
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