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Old 2011-04-13, 02:42   Link #841
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Spoiler for hmm:
Oh give the Vega a little break will you? She had to cross a river of 12 episodes and full of girls before she can meet her loved one. Though I have to admit he's not a good Altair and I have this urge to punch his face whenever I see him in the novels or my computer screen
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Old 2011-04-13, 03:09   Link #842
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ah, that explains it. no monologues were shown in the anime, so...
but yeah, I don't think he's gay either. (although, he gave off weird signs pointing in that direction throughout the whole series )
but he certainly is one of the most dense leads I've seen in recent times. part of the success of this series, I guess...
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Old 2011-04-13, 03:21   Link #843
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It appears clear to me that the anime ended on open-harem-end. While I can definitely see why many Houki-fans would be all over it, and claiming it as a "Houki end"; I'd still like to quote the last "pearl of wisdom" Ichika left to us in the anime (dunno if he said 'that' in the LNs too):

Spoiler for pearl of wisdom:

you still think Houki won?
In the off chance there is no Season 2 (heaven forbid ), my opinion is she has much of a big lead over the other girls. But that's in regards to ending the Anime at that; no clear winner (in the Mark Twain authoring method I always follow) of a story of a boy. And since the novel is practically ongoing, I can't even say who is going to win, because my mind has forever been tainted by the poison called Gatekeepers 21

My upcoming Houki editorial does not intend to justify Houki as the winner of episode 12, it's primary purpose is to clarify why she was important to the Anime (to address complaints she came out of nowhere in this "victory" of hers), why she actually mattered to it (to address concerns she was partly shafted in the series), and why she actually did have much of an impact throughout the entire 12 eps despite how it looked all Shirley'ed up during that run of eps 6-9 (the best part of the editorial, which addresses the complaints of IS having no plot and just being a generic harem). It's a really great piece which I have set for posting tomorrow hopefully, as I had a lot of paperwork to do too

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ah, that explains it. no monologues were shown in the anime, so...
It is too bad it ended the way it did. The link I gave in my previous post had the author mention adding that scene in the BD's would be possible. Which I hope they do I do find myself looking into the novels more often now, and I'm wondering if there's something I can do for those translations.

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but yeah, I don't think he's gay either. (although, he gave off weird signs pointing in that direction throughout the whole series )
I've been wondering why viewers thought that way, the series may have looked like that, but Chifuyu made it kinda clear in ep 10 about what it actually takes to wake up this guy. I'd rather not mention it here, since I cover that in my editorial too.
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Old 2011-04-13, 05:23   Link #844
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i dunno why people call this a generic harem, what is a generic harem? the only other "harem" i've ever watched is clannad and hotd, and they are all so different, so what, i ask you, is a generic harem? is it this? well then in that case it would be my first time seeing one, in which case i think that means harems are not common-place
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Old 2011-04-13, 06:09   Link #845
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i dunno why people call this a generic harem, what is a generic harem? the only other "harem" i've ever watched is clannad and hotd, and they are all so different, so what, i ask you, is a generic harem? is it this? well then in that case it would be my first time seeing one, in which case i think that means harems are not common-place
I've seen the comment about I.S. being a generic harem with no plot on several sites, comment sections, etc. which I for one do not think so, but I think I do know what qualifies as a generic harem.

A good example, plain and simple, is: a generic harem is where a guy is surrounded by 3 or more girls who all have an interest in him, but by series end, he makes no choice as to which girl he wants to marry/impregnate/live with, etc.

It's that question I asked before, were we poisoned through the years to the point where we can't tell anymore? Sure, I won't deny it, I.S. is a harem, but by no means was the Anime generic except for the unfortunate limitations of the writers and time constraints an Anime has in comparison to written material.

Hard to say about the Novel though, as I've just started looking it up and you'll note my surprise at the cover for volume 6. I like the novel art too, ah... Tatenashi's pantyhose....
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Old 2011-04-13, 06:16   Link #846
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a generic harem is where a guy is surrounded by 3 or more girls who all have an interest in him, but by series end, he makes no choice as to which girl he wants to marry/impregnate/live with, etc.
lol, i don't think i've ever seen an anime like that XD
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Old 2011-04-13, 07:28   Link #847
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lol, i don't think i've ever seen an anime like that XD
Well well, you are a lucky one, I'll give you that I've seen quite much of it to no longer even be phased by the negatives, unfortunately. I am happy to know though that the I.S. Anime followed it's novel quite well, it seems even down to the chapter titles at times

I am a bit surprised though Houki has a white ribbon in that very first chapter of Novel #1

For the Novel translators here (if there are any) : how do you guys go about translating? Do you translate it directly into english, or do you romanize it first, and then to english?
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Old 2011-04-13, 08:45   Link #848
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Directly to English of course. It's hard to translate things without looking at the kanji cause Japanese has a large amount of words with the same sound but different meaning.
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Old 2011-04-13, 09:13   Link #849
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Directly to English of course. It's hard to translate things without looking at the kanji cause Japanese has a large amount of words with the same sound but different meaning.
Ah. I see, thanks. As I've done translating for fansubs back in the day, I don't think it would be hard for me. And I've got a good place to start, it's only a matter of my already convoluted schedule
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Old 2011-04-13, 21:22   Link #850
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Ah. I see, thanks. As I've done translating for fansubs back in the day, I don't think it would be hard for me. And I've got a good place to start, it's only a matter of my already convoluted schedule
Well, if you've translated from a fansub before, you might be able to do it from just romaji, but some little warning though.

1. Unlike anime, a novel(if this is what you wanted to translate) doesn't have picture to help describe the nuance of each scene, so sometimes a word's two or more meaning can fit the situation well if you don't look at the kanji.

2. Again, unlike anime, where it would seems very awkward if the character talks too long and they have little pause between each words, the sentence in a novel can be quite long sometimes(even more prevalent in "heavier" novel like Dengeki Bunko's one) and the kanji is a good way to break out the words since unlike English, the Japanese doesn't use space to break out words.

Still, please do give it a try. My experience might not apply for you since I learn Japanese from reading instead of hearing. New translators are always welcomed, especially for LN since the translators are always in short supply
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Old 2011-04-14, 04:46   Link #851
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the Usual dose of novel illustrations for you guys/gals

Spoiler for IS volume 7:


The Higher quality picture can be downloaded here

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Old 2011-04-14, 05:25   Link #852
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the Usual dose of novel illustrations for you guys/gals

Spoiler for IS volume 7:


The Higher quality picture can be downloaded here

Kuroshinigami, tanomimasu
Oh my, zey finally hit ze airwaves, ja? I..... the amount of Houki.... it is super effective to my desires!

Did I just spy some Ran-chan? Oooohh.....
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Old 2011-04-14, 08:32   Link #853
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So we're got:

Inside cover: What, is Houki fighting an IS with an anti-clothing attack?
Houki pic 2: hahaha cute, cute cute, just cute.
Younger sister IS: macross missile massacre hmm...
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Old 2011-04-14, 08:38   Link #854
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the Usual dose of novel illustrations for you guys/gals


The Higher quality picture can be downloaded here

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lol, I couldn't help you this time because there's too little story in the accompanying page this time, but let me try.

Spoiler for vol 7 illustration:


Well, that's the basic gist of it. Hope this is helpful for people. On other note, it seems my copy will take even longer to come, so it's either I found a scanned version of it, or I will get it after I'm finished with vol 6.
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Old 2011-04-14, 08:57   Link #855
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Just to confirm, but does each chapter from the novel has at least one picture?.......because it they do, then there is no progress regarding the plot that came from the vol. 6 cliffhanger

also, kuroishinigami, two timing bastard doesn't cut it...........at the very least, he is a six-timing (harem + Ran) bastard, and probably more considering the other characters.

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Old 2011-04-14, 10:21   Link #856
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No progress from vol 6 cliffhanger. They only put less than 6 pages to resolve it......
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Old 2011-04-14, 10:32   Link #857
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No progress from vol 6 cliffhanger. They only put less than 6 pages to resolve it......
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Spoiler for vol. 7:
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Old 2011-04-14, 10:32   Link #858
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Well if the LNs are selling well then the author probably feels no need to wrap up the plots quickly, might as well sell a few more books
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Old 2011-04-14, 10:35   Link #859
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lol, I couldn't help you this time because there's too little story in the accompanying page this time, but let me try.

Spoiler for vol 7 illustration:


Well, that's the basic gist of it. Hope this is helpful for people. On other note, it seems my copy will take even longer to come, so it's either I found a scanned version of it, or I will get it after I'm finished with vol 6.
LOL , I order it from Kinokuniya japan and its shipping is dirty cheap, I remember paying 1100 yen for a shipment with 5 light volumes and it took DHL one day to delivered it to my country

Thanks again for your translation this time, hope you stay around when volume 8 come out .
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Old 2011-04-14, 12:18   Link #860
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there is something i have been thinking about. we might be looking at this in the wrong way
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