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Old 2013-01-14, 07:03   Link #1121
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Metacritic is a putrid filthy disgusting website that has more power and pull than it should.
All I know they just collect game score and take average.

so far, roughly 80% of game that i play roughly match with metacritic score

If other gamer say the game is bad even if it good review then I listen. of course it has to be a valid excuse not just "the game is bad because the last 5 minute sucks!" stuff.

same also if the game have bad score but other gamer say it's a good game. then I will try the game
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Old 2013-01-14, 07:25   Link #1122
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All I know they just collect game score and take average.
I shall list problems with metacritic.

1. They convert scores of different scales 1:1 to a percentage-based scale, but this is flawed because not all scales are 1:1 with each other.

2. They also give the more popular websites more weight than the less popular ones.

3. The user reviews are done mostly by idiots who think it's actually humanly possible for something to be bad enough to deserve scores of 3 or lower. The idea that anything could be that bad is the stuff of nightmares.

4. Game publishers have recently been using metacritic as a measuring stick for successs, which itself has caused a backlash from games journalists who do not like this level of responsibility being dumped on them. Worse still, Obsidian failed to receive full payment from Bethesda for their developing of Fallout New Vegas because the game was 1 point less of the stipulated metacritic score of 85 as given in their contract to develop it.

5. Perhaps most controversial, Gamespot initially put up a fraudulent review of the game Natural Selection 2 but have since taken it down and replaced it with a more informed review, but Metacritic have refused to remove the old score and review quote because of some flawed policy.
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Old 2013-01-14, 07:46   Link #1123
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1. Fair point

2. Do they really skew the result. say if IGN give game 9 will metacritic change it to 10?

3. Is not like i care about user review score most of them are troll anyway -_-. thought if it have valid criticism (and many people agree) then i listen

4. I heard that news before. while it certainly bad for obsidian (and the "bad person" is T2). I dont see how this effecting MC score vs Game quality. NV deserve 85 from what I heard. A very good game but plague with bug which consider to be worse than Fallout 3 (thought it's 70 in my book)

5. Hmm never heard that news before. thought looking from situation, even if they fixed the score. it doesnt really effect the overall score.
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Old 2013-01-14, 07:58   Link #1124
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Told yall it wasn't going to be garbage. Rent worthy maybe to some. I honestly don't see anyone buying and keeping it tho.
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Old 2013-01-14, 08:09   Link #1125
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Told yall it wasn't going to be garbage. Rent worthy maybe to some. I honestly don't see anyone buying and keeping it tho.
Garbage would be exaggerating- but it certainly did not live up to the standards that the developers have set themselves.
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Old 2013-01-14, 08:13   Link #1126
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^This. The story might be more understandable but they keep saying that gameplay is "Evolved". Certainly not the case here for "Advanced combat" in my opinion so far. Hope it would prove me wrong though because DmC have much more freedom and accessibility in weapons than any Hack N' Slash/Action game.
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Old 2013-01-14, 08:34   Link #1127
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Just watched the walkthrough videos (including all the boss battles):

Spoiler for Thoughts On Final Boss:
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Old 2013-01-14, 08:47   Link #1128
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Just watched the walkthrough videos (including all the boss battles):

Spoiler for Thoughts On Final Boss:
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Not an exact doppelganger, it seems that he split his angel and demon side.
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Old 2013-01-14, 09:15   Link #1129
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Spoiler for :
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Old 2013-01-14, 09:26   Link #1130
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What a joke Jim Sterling is. This man is among the loudes when it comes to bitching about how games are dumbed down and catering to the casuals yet here he is giving it a 9/10.

Well all that remains are good sales and OG DMC is pretty much dead.
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Old 2013-01-14, 09:59   Link #1131
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On another note, all of these DmC threads on gamefaqs are freaking addictive! I can't stop refreshing the page even though I need to sleep... @_@

...This must be what taking drugs feel like... Kills you slowly...

EDIT:

Ending leaked -> Anti on the rise
Good Reviews -> Pro strikes back

(In about a week's time or less)

Weak Sales -> Anti counter attacks
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Old 2013-01-14, 10:16   Link #1132
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Thought I do wonder how much sale it will get. I doubt it reach Capcom 5 M expectation

maybe 1-2 M
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Old 2013-01-14, 10:25   Link #1133
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Thought I do wonder how much sale it will get. I doubt it reach Capcom 5 M expectation

maybe 1-2 M
Capcom already said that they expect 2 M from DmC. Which would put it below DMC 4 saleswise but is the highest forecast of any DMC iirc.
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Old 2013-01-14, 10:34   Link #1134
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The gamefaqs forums always show me new things to entertain me lol.

Some people are saying the game is decent. From what I played with my friend yesterday, full game mind you, that's a good statement of how I feel about it.

The combat felt the same is it did in the demo. Nothing new there aside from new weapons. I can say that the Aquila has a round trip like move that wrecks some enemies. The platforming isn't really a big plus or minus to me. Just like platforming in most games, it's just there.

The story takes itself too seriously. Dante is supposed to be relatable but he comes off as jerk. The story is very predictable. Kat felt like a plot device more than a character. She's supposed to bring Dante's better half out but she falls flat. I liked Vergil. Found his VA's performance to be solid and one of the more likeable characters. Mundus had some of the worst lines in the script but his VA was having fun with it, that I liked.

But yeah so far it just felt like a decent hack n slash. Nothing really setting my world on fire, but not the worst game ever. Combat is the biggest factor to me. It felt watered down and not as deep. Not up to the standard and depth set by DMC 3 (My fav game in the series)
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Old 2013-01-14, 10:34   Link #1135
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Capcom already said that they expect 2 M from DmC. Which would put it below DMC 4 saleswise but is the highest forecast of any DMC iirc.
well if that the case then I think it's possible
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Old 2013-01-14, 20:48   Link #1136
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Spoiler for later game boss battle.

Triple S rank with only two moves, Nephilim difficulty.

Spoiler:
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Old 2013-01-14, 20:59   Link #1137
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LOL that shit is pretty bad. the Combo timer is WAAAAAAAAAAY to long....
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Old 2013-01-14, 21:19   Link #1138
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First time to see "reviewers" say the same thing as the ones who made this.

Either way saw all the walkthroughs it's not as fast as older titles of DMC namely DMC3 and 4.
Like I said since 2011 when the gameplay trailer came out a decent game not par with the gameplay of the original DMC titles and there is nothing new or innovative and will have a predictable storyline.


Here's the History of Original DMC to the Reboot DmC
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Here's the lore of the original franchise before the reboot
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Old 2013-01-14, 21:53   Link #1139
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With all the 9-ish scores it implies that DmC must have done something excellent that would overlook the minor flaws (Cause no game is perfect).

So I'm not exactly sure what is it that they did great.
I'm tempted to assume that one of the key points this game managed to pull off is to appeal to the casual fanbase and plenty of newcomers. Because most of the criticism I've witnessed seems to stem from the so-called "pro's" and veterans of the franchise. And as a long-time fan of this series, I'm in agreement with most of the criticism I've seen from many of these people. With that said, I try to keep in mind that a lot of reviewers aren't necessarily hardcore DMC gamers. That's to say, they're probably not the people who had the time or the interest to play old DMC titles enough to really appreciate all the depth and complexity from the gameplay that the previous titles had to offer. Hell, a lot of reviewers might've not played a DMC game before this one at all. *shrugs*

So in short, I've no doubt DmC's gameplay does a good job of looking and feeling nice and pretty on the surface--which is all I bet it really needs to do to rake in solid sales.

I hope my brief opinion didn't offend anyone that was impressed by this game too badly.
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Old 2013-01-14, 22:09   Link #1140
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Speaking of the graphics. I remembered Xbox DeadRising 1. I liked that smooth more realistic graphic than the DR2/DR2 Off the record cartoony one like DmC has now.
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