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View Poll Results: To Aru Majutsu no Index II - Episode 2 Rating
Perfect 10 26 23.42%
9 out of 10 : Excellent 22 19.82%
8 out of 10 : Very Good 27 24.32%
7 out of 10 : Good 18 16.22%
6 out of 10 : Average 7 6.31%
5 out of 10 : Below Average 6 5.41%
4 out of 10 : Poor 0 0%
3 out of 10 : Bad 1 0.90%
2 out of 10 : Very Bad 1 0.90%
1 out of 10 : Painful 3 2.70%
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Old 2010-10-16, 11:10   Link #81
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Old 2010-10-16, 11:25   Link #82
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The church in toaru do oppose magic, but at the same time they need to have a force of their own to fight other magicians, hence it's a 'necessary evil'. The Battle Nuns of the RCC are viewed the same way.

Trivia, those magics that are 'acceptable' to the churches are labelled as 'miracles' heh.
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Old 2010-10-16, 11:29   Link #83
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So, I see so many complaints about fanservice that when I finally watch the episode I expect to see Agnese gainaxing all over the place and Orsola boob grabs. What do I get? A couple fanservice scenes at the very end of the episode. I mean, really? That's what all this "FANSERVICE IN MEH INDEX" is about? lol. Not to mention it's from the original material, and every single scene has an illustration for it. Really, people need to calm down and stop jumping the gun. I mean, you fucking see the action in the PV.

Anyway, the episode overall was a great adaptation, and put to rest any fears I had that J.C.Staff would turn Index II into Shana II. They stuck extremely close to the novels, and only moved up some fanservice scenes involving Agnese (which I have no problem with, since it just leaves more time for action and plot). The pacing was definitely fast in comparison to last season, but wasn't everyone complaining about the pacing being too slow last season anyway? I think they struck the right balance this episode.

For the most part, this was just an exposition episode, so 7/10.
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Old 2010-10-16, 11:46   Link #84
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Wrong!!!

That is typical hero story

This Arc will have some twist
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Old 2010-10-16, 14:25   Link #85
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IIRC, the director said that he won't do anything outrageous.
Kazuma only put fanservice in these few volumes.

Well, this is another obligatory intro episode for an Index arc.
can't wait for the fight.
I like how the magicians dress like ordinary citizens.
Granted, those were the canon fodder, but I hope well get to see some of them in action.
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Old 2010-10-16, 14:31   Link #86
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I would've liked to of seen more from the last episode- the kidnapper and his girlfriend- like how did the curse look like when it was taken off. Or something along those lines. Guess I'll have to wait until the lightnovel is translated.
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Old 2010-10-16, 14:46   Link #87
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Wtf are they doing?
Those idiotic comic scenes, which are not comical at all, completely ruined the mood and completely destroyed the enjoyment of the episode...
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Old 2010-10-16, 15:22   Link #88
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I kind of had a couple of random thoughts near the end...

Why does Touma's mind immediately jump to Index being the one under the blanket with him?

More importantly, why is he not blushing furiously until AFTER he realizes it's not Index?

Repeat offender there it seems!
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Old 2010-10-16, 17:01   Link #89
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Remember why Touma surrendered the bed to Index and has to sleep in the bathtub? Yeah... Not his first dance...
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Old 2010-10-16, 17:23   Link #90
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Remember why Touma surrendered the bed to Index and has to sleep in the bathtub? Yeah... Not his first dance...
Hey I believe it...
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Old 2010-10-16, 17:36   Link #91
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Does Index ever do anything in these stories besides get kidnapped?
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Old 2010-10-16, 18:10   Link #92
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I would've liked to of seen more from the last episode- the kidnapper and his girlfriend- like how did the curse look like when it was taken off. Or something along those lines. Guess I'll have to wait until the lightnovel is translated.
The light novel doesn't cover that either.
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Old 2010-10-16, 18:42   Link #93
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Does Index ever do anything in these stories besides get kidnapped?
well, wait another 2 episodes...
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Old 2010-10-16, 19:30   Link #94
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There are a couple levels of "wrong" going on with some whiners here....

First, people are complaining about fanservice in this anime. (key word being "anime")

Seriously? "Boo" when there's fanservice in anime? How often is there not?


Then, people are complaining about fanservice in Index.

Have we not been watching the same Index series?


On top of that, there are people complaining about the fanservice when it came straight out of the novel.

Aren't the whiners usually people who say the anime doesn't follow the novels well enough? So now it's bad when the anime sticks to the novels like white on rice? So were we reading the same novels at all?


On top of that, they're acting like this is/calling this excessive fanservice.

a) Have you ever seen any other anime at all, and b) again, were we reading the same Index novels and watching the same Index series? Nothing new here in any way.


Anyways.....

Very nice episode. Nothing horribly exciting, but you always need a setup episode with lots of talking unless you want all that plot-talk to be brought up in the middle of the fighting with all the standard exposition. And a good thing for fast-moving episode, because it means we get to the action sooner. And if I didn't make it clear enough, the fanservice didn't kill anything for me.

8/10
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Old 2010-10-16, 19:47   Link #95
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Old 2010-10-16, 21:40   Link #96
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Does Index ever do anything in these stories besides get kidnapped?
Did you miss the part where she help explain to the good guys the Amakusa magic style?

Index is vital in catching them.
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Old 2010-10-16, 22:15   Link #97
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Index is for all intents and purposes the Gandalf of the Fellowship: She may not bear the strength of arms to get the job done, but she provides the most-vital information without which the warriors would not be able to get the task done.

Its often overlooked because of how small and cute she is, but Index's ultimate weapon is her mind.
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Old 2010-10-16, 22:35   Link #98
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Did you guys not realize that despite having 250(?) nuns under her command, she still can't do anything against the Amakusa if not for Index giving intel about their enemy.

Index = Chuck.
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Old 2010-10-16, 23:05   Link #99
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The fanservice was never a problem whatsoever. But it was a little funny ( and off-pacing ) to have three fanservice moments sequentially without much context to it, other than FUKOUUUUUUUUU DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA.

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Does nobody have anything else to talk about? One of the main complaints I've heard besides the fanservice is how 'hard' the plot and it's terms are to understand, in that case why isn't there anyone asking for clarification about any part of it?

In the first place, how difficult is it really ?
Well, most of the massive discussion went to the light novel section, so I hear. I try to avoid spoilers for most parts, but I've noted some heavy text every now and then.

Besides, with this being introductory as it is, with the establishment of the 'hero cast' villains and just a 'rough understanding of what is going on', there's really not that much to discuss. Unless we want to talk about how the history of actual Amakusa Christians establishment and the relevant links to how they hide their religion through Virgin Mary's statue being made to look like Guanyin-ma, or the author of the 'Book of the Law.'
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Old 2010-10-16, 23:11   Link #100
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And about the whole Christian thing…for Francis especially, think of it as located on a whole different Earth than us, where everything is different. After all, I don’t think the root of Christianity in this Earth is strongly related to magic, they’re quite opposed to it in fact. Think of it as a ‘what if’, like if there’s a disclaimer saying that this is fiction, any related coincidences is imaginary or things like that. At least the author is not pushing this as something that may be true “cough*DanBrown*cough*, everyone knows it’s just fantasy. I do understand where you’re coming from, and if it’s aired in say the US instead of Japan there’s no way the censors will let it pass, but just relax and enjoy the show.
Yeah I understand that but the Vatican is not against that...in fact they have special divisions for that last I heard, where specialists work for them to determine things like supernatural events. If it would air in USA then yes censors would not allow it but do wonder about the BD dubs.....they might let it by. Yeah, I know...relax and enjoy fiction.....but expressing is another thing you know...
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Wtf are they doing?
Those idiotic comic scenes, which are not comical at all, completely ruined the mood and completely destroyed the enjoyment of the episode...
That was my point. The ecchi was more sexual than comedy.....that was a failure indeed.
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There are a couple levels of "wrong" going on with some whiners here....

First, people are complaining about fanservice in this anime. (key word being "anime")

Seriously? "Boo" when there's fanservice in anime? How often is there not?
That's not the point. It's how it is shown and integrated.
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Then, people are complaining about fanservice in Index.

Have we not been watching the same Index series?
Yes but in the first season it shown more naturally or should I say that I did not mind it that much.
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On top of that, there are people complaining about the fanservice when it came straight out of the novel.

Aren't the whiners usually people who say the anime doesn't follow the novels well enough? So now it's bad when the anime sticks to the novels like white on rice? So were we reading the same novels at all?
It's the way it was shown even if it was from the novel....was it really well shown so the novel intended it or was it to sexually gratify?
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On top of that, they're acting like this is/calling this excessive fanservice.

a) Have you ever seen any other anime at all, and b) again, were we reading the same Index novels and watching the same Index series? Nothing new here in any way.
I have seen plenty of animes (now about at 115 series) that fan service was there for comedy and sexual gratification (provided it was well founded).
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And if I didn't make it clear enough, the fanservice didn't kill anything for me.
It might have been something like for me but it still was annoying because it was more shown to sexually gratify.
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