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Old 2011-04-12, 05:30   Link #121
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@winkel: A 10 year old girl forced to suck the life force out of a 23 year old dude... I am absolutely certain that even your neighbourhood's feminist, turned into fundamentalist after having kids would find it appropriate
Except it's not the life force she has to suck, it's the life SEED. Preparing a 10-year-old girl for a life of draining the life from men fits well with feminits, but preparing her for a life where she has to consume male seed is another story. Especially considering that she'll have to dedicate herself to pleasing the men just to be able to get that seed.
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Old 2011-04-12, 06:41   Link #122
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Naoya is very unmanly at least in appearance. I thought the voice fit well.
I too think the voice fit. To me to regesters as a good soft spoken male voice.
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Old 2011-04-12, 11:44   Link #123
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Here's a reality check: This show looks cute and moe, but the premise, and the fanservice look very dodgy to me .. and the late-night original screen time confirms that it's really for adult pervs, not 10 year old kids. If you showed it to your adult neighbours, they'd probably denounce it as kiddy porn. That's a topic some adults feel very strongly about...
That's a scary way of thinking, anything airing late at night is for perverts

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Except it's not the life force she has to suck, it's the life SEED.
It is 吸精 (kyuu-sei) and to be acurate first part is suck and second can be anything from energy/vigour to semen, certainly not seed, as the translation I watched, but anyone will get the point, and probably get less offended, or at least that what the translator thought.

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Preparing a 10-year-old girl for a life of draining the life from men fits well with feminits, but preparing her for a life where she has to consume male seed is another story. Especially considering that she'll have to dedicate herself to pleasing the men just to be able to get that seed.
There are a ton of assumptions there, and I rather stay on-topic
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Old 2011-04-12, 13:22   Link #124
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That's a scary way of thinking, anything airing late at night is for perverts
Especially since most anime airs at night except for a few exceptions.
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Old 2011-04-12, 14:06   Link #125
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@winkel: A 10 year old girl forced to suck the life force out of a 23 year old dude... I am absolutely certain that even your neighbourhood's feminist, turned into fundamentalist after having kids would find it appropriate
Yeah, if possible that's the way I'd want her to take it as- Lotte is just a demon forced to live by sucking the life force out of males because she's a succubus, and after that hump, the series takes care of itself fine. But the problem is CR's subs use the life-seed translation and well... one could take that in different ways.

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Here's a reality check: This show looks cute and moe, but the premise, and the fanservice look very dodgy to me .. and the late-night original screen time confirms that it's really for adult pervs, not 10 year old kids. If you showed it to your adult neighbours, they'd probably denounce it as kiddy porn.
Fanservice and little girls aren't the problem. She's watched much and enjoys that in the past. It's this time the story premise is the issue I have with recommending the series and why I'm hesitant because I don't want to give her the wrong messages.

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Except it's not the life force she has to suck, it's the life SEED. Preparing a 10-year-old girl for a life of draining the life from men fits well with feminits, but preparing her for a life where she has to consume male seed is another story. Especially considering that she'll have to dedicate herself to pleasing the men just to be able to get that seed.
And yeah, this is pretty much the issue I have with.

Not that I believe the show is about that, I mean, I said I follow the manga and the show, I know that's not a major factor of it and it's really just a cute lolita-type show. But there's the fear that it may be taken that way.

Oh well, I told her to go ahead and try it, may someone have mercy on my soul if it turns out bad.
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Old 2011-04-12, 14:32   Link #126
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In between, CR translated kyuusei as life seed, while it literally means drain/suck-able semen or vitality (depending on the context), still everyone will understand what they mean.

Also I can see why many would have a problem, it easier to accept something sleazy implied, yet not shown, rather clearly stated but not done

As for winkel's RL-loli, don't know; it really depends on the person and circumstances; plus you can always joke about it, since lying is the quintessential part of every relationship

EDIT: By the way, should it be a real life 10 y.o. with a 23 one, I would have a lot of problems with it, but it is not!
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Old 2011-04-12, 14:40   Link #127
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EDIT: By the way, should it be a real life 10 y.o. with a 23 one, I would have a lot of problems with it, but it is not!
My personal concern is how that 23 yo dude will take that relationship. I can only imagine something like between Hayate and Nagi but I dunno.
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Old 2011-04-12, 14:52   Link #128
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My personal concern is how that 23 yo dude will take that relationship. I can only imagine something like between Hayate and Nagi but I dunno.
Kaishaku handled it fine in Enban Oujo Valkyrie. Plus Rotte is not human, who knows sexual maturity might be achieved at 10... scratch that actually that's the case as Judith already stated.

The argument is moot IMHO. This is not real life! For that check Koi Kaze, which depicts a very realistic situation... very tastefully
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Yes but the guy is a human. I know Astarotte's view and position but I'm concerned about how he will take it to his heart. If I were him, I'd actually fall heads over with the busty maid.
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Old 2011-04-12, 18:45   Link #130
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Old 2011-04-12, 22:05   Link #131
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Wow an anime character named Zelda first time ive seen that
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Old 2011-04-12, 22:07   Link #132
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Wow an anime character named Zelda first time ive seen that
Full name is Griselda. Pretty much all the characters have a long name and a shorter version that everyone calls them by.
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Old 2011-04-12, 22:27   Link #133
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It's more awkward in one of the scenes when someone said "Princess" and "Zelda" almost at the same time.
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Old 2011-04-13, 01:20   Link #134
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That's a scary way of thinking, anything airing late at night is for perverts
Gee whiz, I always wondered why Twilight Zone aired at night /joke

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Full name is Griselda. Pretty much all the characters have a long name and a shorter version that everyone calls them by.
Ah, kinda like a nickname. I do that a lot, or maybe not, considering I sometimes defeat the purpose of a nickname by giving an even longer name

And, I hadn't realized how much of a topic the series' premise was going to be
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Old 2011-04-13, 12:59   Link #135
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I also think this is a bit too loli, I have not seen any preview whatsoever so my surprise at the production quality is, a surprise. Note that I mentioned "memories of Moetan" in my previous post, when that series aired, I had to steer clear of that thread here because an old stalker friend was seriously gonna drill me on it any chance he can get (I ended up not finishing that series)
It's actually, along with Moetan, one of the best example of loli-related shows. (to hell with the idiots who call the girls in SW lolis!)
I wonder who that stalker is

Either way, while the show isn't exactly following the manga, it seems to still keep the story around the same, so it's not a bad thing to have a little variation so it feels a bit new when watching it
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I wonder who that stalker is
OH SHHHHHH-...

Dude, long time no.... stalk You need to be here more often, Mr. Loli Expert

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I...I would n-never dream of it Yeah! Because there's no way Shirley is a loli Th-there's no way I looked at Micchan that way, honest!

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Either way, while the show isn't exactly following the manga, it seems to still keep the story around the same, so it's not a bad thing to have a little variation so it feels a bit new when watching it
That. That part kept me completely interested the whole episode, which I thought did a good job of keeping my eyes from the other objects onscreen At first I thought things might be going slow, but that's a part of the surprise for me; I'm willing to see how they go about doing that, and what subtle changes awaits.
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Old 2011-04-14, 04:41   Link #137
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It is 吸精 (kyuu-sei) and to be acurate first part is suck and second can be anything from energy/vigour to semen, certainly not seed, as the translation I watched, but anyone will get the point, and probably get less offended, or at least that what the translator thought.
True, anyone who doesn't know what sauzfryma should find this a less offensive way to describe it. Unless sauzfryma has some meaning aside from semen as well?
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Old 2011-04-16, 19:18   Link #139
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I just started watching it it I pause after hearing the voice of the loli....... she's been voice by Rie right? sigh another loli tsundere. She really voiced mostly of what I knew character that are loli tsundere.

..... well continuing on watching the first episode.
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I just started watching it it I pause after hearing the voice of the loli....... she's been voice by Rie right? sigh another loli tsundere. She really voiced mostly of what I knew character that are loli tsundere.

..... well continuing on watching the first episode.
You know, I've been wondering. You know how it is where some authors/artist want a particular voice actress to voice their characters, I think I read once where an author actually created a character around that voice, maybe, just maybe it's the case with Lotte and Aria, maybe it's what they wanted because they feel it fits their character better. That could also mean nobody has ever tried finding someone else, but I'll be a U-boot Captain if there just isn't someone like Kugumiya out there
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