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Old 2013-08-15, 18:50   Link #1821
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Why would you use Oreimo as an indicator =_=;?
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Old 2013-08-15, 19:21   Link #1822
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Regardless of whether you use that story as an indicator or not, that was my first thought after reading that spoiler as well. This was originally part of the web teaser/preview for the new novel, so it'd surprise me if it gave away such a major plot twist without having more twists to come in the novel itself. It seems to me that it's the perfect opportunity for redirection/to lead people off the trail. Of course, the fact that they've since shortened the preview and redacted those pages throws it into doubt even further, but that too could be a stunt...

Spoiler for For those who want to know... leaked spoiler:
The rest of the chapter titles seem to suggest that this probably won't be the last volume, so we'll see what happens...
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Old 2013-08-16, 00:37   Link #1823
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A normal "last volume" of a novel uses the more important characters or maybe even all of them in the cover, but this volume's cover lacks Sena and put another girl instead, so I could say it almost obvious it's not the last one .
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Old 2013-08-18, 04:12   Link #1824
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I'll be amazed if that spoiler turns out to be true. After numerous rewrites and delays in publishing the next novel, the author has to have something incredible planned. Maybe it's all in the later sections of the book though.
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Old 2013-08-20, 10:42   Link #1825
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Why would you use Oreimo as an indicator =_=;?
Going by Oreimo Logic

Spoiler for Obvious Spoiler for OreImo:
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Old 2013-08-20, 17:57   Link #1826
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Going by Oreimo Logic

Spoiler for Obvious Spoiler for OreImo:
No, that's not the logic.

Spoiler for Logic implied by the comparison to OreImo:
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Old 2013-08-20, 20:46   Link #1827
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Shuffle! says Hello~
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Old 2013-08-20, 21:09   Link #1828
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Damn shame since it seems Rika has been moved to the friendzone already...
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Old 2013-08-20, 21:17   Link #1829
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Damn shame since it seems Rika has been moved to the friendzone already...
But moving to the "friend zone" in this story is actually pretty damn significant given the theme. I wouldn't necessarily say this is such a bad place for her to be as far as a romantic interest goes in this story (there are certainly stories where the friend who helps the protagonist out with his love problems ends up being the love interest)... but, by the same token, I have to admit that I never really considered her a major romantic interest for Kodaka either. I like her role as his first true friend in the story, and someone he can count on as an ally. That's a pretty big breakthrough in its own way.
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Old 2013-08-20, 22:06   Link #1830
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Spoiler for Comparison to OreImo:


Edit: Woops, you're fast
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Old 2013-08-21, 04:24   Link #1831
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Spoiler for Comparison to OreImo:

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Old 2013-08-21, 04:58   Link #1832
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Just like to ask people to keep using spoiler tags for OreImo comparisons, since some people will not have read the work or watched the anime. Same would apply to comparisons to other shows -- better to not assume that everyone's seen it.
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Old 2013-08-21, 08:12   Link #1833
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Some new pictures:
http://blog.mediafactory.co.jp/mfbunkoj/?p=17346

The pictures doesn't spoil anything (fanservice).
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Old 2013-08-21, 09:15   Link #1834
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Shuffle! says Hello~
I'd actually say a Shuffle! scenario adds support to the Sena route. Like Yozora self destructing from the relationship and Kodaka helping her and restoring their friendship. This way actually makes more sense in terms of the title of the series than Kodaka going out with Sena and then ending it to go out with Yozora.
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Old 2013-08-21, 15:26   Link #1835
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Spoiler for Comparison to OreImo:


Edit: Woops, you're fast
Yozora is self destructive, the other is angsty.
Sena is someone who won't give up no matter what.
Rika choose to be a friend for a greater good, the other wasn't interested in the mc until much later.
Yukimura is just an admirer.
Kobato and Maria are imoutos role, the other barely was there.

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Some new pictures:
http://blog.mediafactory.co.jp/mfbunkoj/?p=17346

The pictures doesn't spoil anything (fanservice).
So, that other girl is part of the student council?
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Old 2013-08-21, 17:20   Link #1836
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So, that other girl is part of the student council?
Yes, she is (the new girl on the front cover).

Based on Kodaka's description of all student members in the chapter "Oh Flower, Bloom in her Resilient Heart":

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Student Council secretary, Karin Jinguuji (A quiet and pretty pure Japanese junior. One of the few actual Christians at our school.) who didn't have a very good impression of me at first, opened up to me quite a bit after we did some work together, and I've currently exchanged e-mail addresses with everyone on the Student Council.
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Old 2013-08-21, 21:03   Link #1837
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Some new pictures:
http://blog.mediafactory.co.jp/mfbunkoj/?p=17346

The pictures doesn't spoil anything (fanservice).
whaaaaaa~ bald monk Rika? Are they playing some kind of games like Romancing Saga there? lol

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Old 2013-08-22, 02:45   Link #1838
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Some new pictures:
http://blog.mediafactory.co.jp/mfbunkoj/?p=17346

The pictures doesn't spoil anything (fanservice).
I didn't know Yukimura had it like that!
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Old 2013-08-22, 04:43   Link #1839
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Yozora is self destructive, the other is angsty.
Sena is someone who won't give up no matter what.
Rika choose to be a friend for a greater good, the other wasn't interested in the mc until much later.
Yukimura is just an admirer.
Kobato and Maria are imoutos role, the other barely was there.
In this case, I wasn't analysing the characters and their personalities, but the roles that they play relative to the story and other characters. Here, why and how they go about performing their roles is not as important as what their roles actually are. The events in BokuTomo will naturally differ from that of OreImo, but similarities can be observed from the way that the characters are set up and the type of events that occurred in terms of defining those roles.

Obviously I still have hope for Sena (see my sig ), but a Sena end will have to rely on the minor differences being significant enough to override the approach that is widely used in anime, manga, and light novels. Suffice it is to say that the odds are currently stacked against her.
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Old 2013-08-22, 07:10   Link #1840
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Obviously I still have hope for Sena (see my sig ), but a Sena end will have to rely on the minor differences being significant enough to override the approach that is widely used in anime, manga, and light novels
An easy solution if you feel insecure: Don't ever rely on patterns of already known light novel logic, just ignore them.
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