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Old 2010-11-13, 03:41   Link #1
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I have a question on English language in Japanese anime.

I'm watching an episode of Full Metal Panic, and Kurz jumped infront of Chidori and her friend saying "Hi Japanese pretty girls!". But he said it in English, rather than Japanese...why do some animes do that?
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Old 2010-11-13, 03:49   Link #2
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it's my guess, but it feels quite awesome if you can talk with someone in another language (especially if you spent time to learn them). And sometime people over-excited with that and did it randomly and inappropriately.

I don't watch and can't remember FMP. But in anime, the use of English most of the time was to make the character look silly and indicate he like to show off (in front of girls for example).
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Old 2010-11-13, 03:51   Link #3
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Um... why do english speaking people say, "Que pasa" ... or "Sayonara"... or any other foreign language phrase?

It is considered somewhat cool in Japan to know some English phrases (which is funny considering everyone there gets many years of English in K-12 which doesn't seem to stick well). Its common to hear "bai bai" or "tank you" for example. Obviously, this character "Kurz" was attempting to be worldly/cool.
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Old 2010-11-13, 03:53   Link #4
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Thanks for the input guys.
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Old 2010-11-13, 04:04   Link #5
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It is considered somewhat cool in Japan to know some English phrases (which is funny considering everyone there gets many years of English in K-12 which doesn't seem to stick well). Its common to hear "bai bai" or "tank you" for example. Obviously, this character "Kurz" was attempting to be worldly/cool.
Kurz is actually European, not Japanese. That said, he's also a playboy, and in the scene in question, he's trying to pick up two Japanese girls by pulling a "lost foreigner" routine. So yes, definitely trying to play it cool.

Unlike many Japanese voice actors, the guy who plays Kurz actually pulled it off pretty well... contrast with say, Revy from Black Lagoon, who is supposed to be Chinese-American:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWNx4p6FVRA
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Old 2010-11-13, 04:08   Link #6
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Ah thanks..... I've never watched/read FMP and the question was just phrased in a rather generic way.
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Old 2010-11-13, 04:52   Link #7
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Can anyone differentiate this usual lines that in my opinion has also similar meanings?

Nan desu ka?

Nanda yo?

Nan des te?

Nani yo?

Nani?
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Old 2010-11-13, 05:06   Link #8
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Wrong thread, but whatevs. XD

they all 'basically' mean the same thing, though I do believe they are talking about different subjects...

uhh, not sure how to actually explain it though XD
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Old 2010-11-13, 07:21   Link #9
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They're different in tone. Japanese are very nitpicky about that stuff, they choose their words not only based on context but also their attitude. In english you could say "What is it?" in either a polite or demeaning tone, but in japanese many words will always sound impolite no matter how you say them
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Old 2010-11-13, 13:12   Link #10
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Can anyone differentiate this usual lines that in my opinion has also similar meanings?

Nan desu ka?

Nanda yo?

Nan des te?

Nani yo?

Nani?
They are different in terms of formality, casualness, presumption/arrogance.

'yo' adds a degree of assertiveness or "informing" -- more often used by brash males.
"Nan desu ka" is probably the most neutral/polite of the choices.
"Nani?" is probably the most casual.
"Nan des te" ... is kind of weird to me but I'll take it as a "requestful what?"

.. and yeah there's already existing threads for japanese language (one for beginners, one for advanced). This thread was about why you hear characters attempting English dialog in anime.
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Old 2010-11-13, 13:45   Link #11
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"Nan desu te" is usually a response to something that someone said, so it's more like: "what did you just said?"

"nani yo" and "Nan da yo" are often used to express annoyance from someone's meddling, so "What the hell do you want?"
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Old 2010-11-13, 15:12   Link #12
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Can anyone differentiate this usual lines that in my opinion has also similar meanings?

Nan desu ka?
Formal/neutral

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Nanda yo?
Annoyed

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Nan des te?
Pissed off "What did you just say!?"

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Nani yo?
Annoyed

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Nani?
Neutral/curt/childish
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Old 2010-11-13, 15:47   Link #13
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My Japanese girlfriend just told me that "nan desu te" is more like saying "What the fuck did you say?!" without the cursing.
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Old 2010-11-13, 15:49   Link #14
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As you can see from the responses (which vary) - tone of voice can really modulate the words themselves. That's interesting about the des te form though - I wouldn't have guessed it was so annoyed just from the words.
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Old 2010-11-14, 06:22   Link #15
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My Japanese girlfriend just told me that "nan desu te" is more like saying "What the fuck did you say?!" without the cursing.
Im no expert on the subject but it seems like a phrase generally reserved for use by women. I think men would say the same thing but with different grammar particles.
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Old 2010-11-14, 06:32   Link #16
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Kurz is actually European, not Japanese.
Who lived in Japan when he was a kid and (if I remember correctly) was actually more Japanese than Sousuke in many aspects.
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