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Old 2012-02-24, 03:56   Link #501
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I'd assume removing the Leize twins means that Graham will have a smaller, if not retconned, presence allowing the movie to focus more on the Book and the Wolkenritter's pasts. I did actually find them to be a very intriguing bunch, sadly neither A's nor StrikerS allowed much focus on them.

Thing is, as I stated somewhere in this thread somewhere, removing the twins and minimizing Graham in the plot allows some possibility of retcons that could potentially alter if not screw up the storyline.
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Old 2012-02-24, 04:27   Link #502
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I wonder how deep the changes will be since Graham's operations have a lot to do with the developement of the events in A's. As much of what happened was orchestated by him in order to execute his plan to get rid of The Book of Darkness.
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Old 2012-02-24, 06:04   Link #503
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Here is that signum teaser trailer you wanted Aki.

Just noticed at the end where Signum and Fate's attacks meet the the shockwave shatters the windows.
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Old 2012-02-24, 11:11   Link #504
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^ Awesome! Thanks man xD!

Laevatein has now more fiction-realistic explosions xD! As i tought, this movie will be filled with eye candy xD
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Old 2012-02-24, 11:16   Link #505
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Yep... lots of eye candy and fanservice (I meant the fights, not the loli transformation XD) for the eyes.

And Akiyoshi's dream has come trueee~
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Old 2012-02-25, 01:06   Link #506
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Maybe we'll get a better transformation sequence for Hayate

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Old 2012-02-25, 01:22   Link #507
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Instead of all these little bits they should really put it as an actual trailer. :S
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Old 2012-02-25, 01:54   Link #508
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Maybe we'll get a better transformation sequence for Hayate

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I think the one she got in A's was pretty epic xD! At least far more flashy than the Wolkenritter ones.

Talking about that, the Wolks transformation sequences had always been cheaper than other characters, hope this time they are shown in an asskicking secuence xD!
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Old 2012-02-25, 03:36   Link #509
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Instead of all these little bits they should really put it as an actual trailer. :S
Commercials on Japanese TV (as was explained to me) are only 15 seconds instead of 30 seconds in the US, so they tend to be very short.

Akiyoshi - Yes, but nowhere as long as Nanoha's or Fate's (Maybe Zafira will get a cool sequence too :P )
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Old 2012-02-25, 07:04   Link #510
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I'd assume removing the Leize twins means that Graham will have a smaller, if not retconned, presence allowing the movie to focus more on the Book and the Wolkenritter's pasts. I did actually find them to be a very intriguing bunch, sadly neither A's nor StrikerS allowed much focus on them.

Thing is, as I stated somewhere in this thread somewhere, removing the twins and minimizing Graham in the plot allows some possibility of retcons that could potentially alter if not screw up the storyline.
You can leave out the possibility in that line. Without the Lieze twins, Chrono would have captured Shamal. Without the Lieze twins, Nanoha would have defeated Vita. Without the Lieze twins, the fight between Signum and Fate would not have halted. Without the Lieze twins, Nanoha and Fate might have negotiated with the Wolkenritter succesfully. Without the Lieze twins, Hayate might never have awoken.

The impact of removing them is quite severe, and I'm interested in how this will change the story. It'll make it much more fun to watch than it would have been if it was merely a high-quality rerun of A's.
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Old 2012-02-25, 07:36   Link #511
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Which means a major retcon is in the works. This may as well be considered a completely different story then, if not some alternate continuity.
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Old 2012-02-25, 07:52   Link #512
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Yeah that sounds about right. The movies always were considered alternate continuity by Tsuzuki.
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Old 2012-02-25, 08:06   Link #513
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14 July 2012 theatrical relase date comfirmed
And a new trailer added
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Old 2012-02-25, 10:12   Link #514
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Vita's "Akuma!" is in it, Signum preparing to fight Fate too, nice.

And transformations!
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Old 2012-02-25, 11:21   Link #515
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Vita's "Akuma!" is in it, Signum preparing to fight Fate too, nice.

And transformations!
GAAAHHH!! I'm at school, i'll need to wait until being on home to watch it! Tranformatiooons xD!

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You can leave out the possibility in that line. Without the Lieze twins, Chrono would have captured Shamal. Without the Lieze twins, Nanoha would might defeated Vita. Without the Lieze twins, the fight between Signum and Fate would not have halted. Without the Lieze twins, Nanoha and Fate might have negotiated with the Wolkenritter succesfully. Without the Lieze twins, Hayate might never have awoken.
Fixed. Even if Vita were hit by Divine Buster extension i doubt the fight would have ended at that moment since both Signum(Blaster-1 Shooting Stars Assault ...pointblank) and Vita(back to front impalement and arguably blasted in all directions by the engine room's security system) managed to withstand a lot worse stuff during StrikerS where they're far less durable than their A's counterparts. I won't deny, tough, that it will give Nanoha a great advantage and morelikely she'll do defeat Vita after a long fight.
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Old 2012-02-25, 14:22   Link #516
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*opens mouth to comment on the trailers and other released info*...*closes mouth*
Yeah, doubt anyone wants to hear what I have to say. Already mentioned it, and the reaction wasn't encouraging.

Not all that surprising that they'd leave out the twins, though. At least I don't think so.
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Old 2012-02-25, 14:48   Link #517
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lol Nanoha has accepted her role as a demon XD
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Old 2012-02-25, 15:55   Link #518
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They sure love reshowing scenes with these trailers. Only new content apart from this one and the previous one...Was a bit more Hayate, and a few tiny little scenes thrown inbetween.
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Old 2012-02-25, 16:02   Link #519
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New transformation sequence for Nanoha and Fate confirmed, but none for Hayate

Get out the pitchforks D:
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Old 2012-02-25, 16:06   Link #520
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Were they not confirmed back when the first trailer released?

Honestly, as much as I like Henshin sequences, they should almost just do away with them considering how tight on time they are. Although Nanoha and Fate kinda do need one to compliment their upgraded devices and new barrier jackets. So that was inevitable.
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