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Old 2010-12-10, 02:27   Link #61
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Oh these plot holes.
Didn't Kakashi explain in one of the very first chapters, that every village has special troops to make sure a ninja's body is completely destroyed after death, to make sure nobody extracts its secrets from the DNA? So how comes there are now graves which contain enough DNA for Kabuto to steal. Are we really to believe generations of Ninja did a lousy job?
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Old 2010-12-10, 02:35   Link #62
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^That only applies on missing ninja, hunter ninjas hunt them down and destroys their bodies so the enemy want get information's about it after they killed them.

While other ninjas who died are still buried and it's possible to steal their DNA from their grave's.
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Old 2010-12-10, 04:35   Link #63
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^That only applies on missing ninja, hunter ninjas hunt them down and destroys their bodies so the enemy want get information's about it after they killed them.

While other ninjas who died are still buried and it's possible to steal their DNA from their grave's.
i don't think it's been said one way or another when it comes to normal ninja... yes what was said was in regards to missing-nin but that was in part because they were talking about hunter-nin... any normal ninja would not need to be "hunted". Nothing was mentioned about how normal ninja were treated. We have seen graves but that does not mean there was a body actually in those graves. frankly when you consider the work that hunter-nin do and why they do it, it actually wouldn't make sense for them to bury a corpse... the only reason to do it is out of "respect" (which is open to interpretation) but is the risk of the enemy managing to rob a grave worth it? Sure it would not be an easy task to steal a body, but why take the risk in the first place... Afterall we've seen ninja sneak into kohona in the past; not hard to believe that they might be able to rob a Uchiha or Hyuuga grave
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Old 2010-12-10, 06:07   Link #64
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damn .. that Deidara's DNA must've been a pain in the ass

wonder if they bothered with Hidan ... nah


btw that flushing teleportation of Madara's obviously comes from the Sharingan eye - so we can assume it's a sharingan technique or possible an EMS technique and not just a jutsu
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Old 2010-12-10, 06:56   Link #65
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Y'know I thought it was kind of funny when they said Jaiya's body was lying under the ocean... namely conisdering the fact that the rain village is land locked. Sure he probably should have said Lake or something, but it still amused me a bit
J-Man used a summon, what was it? ...Swamp of the Underworld? It even has the same flora as Mount Myōboku. Being that the swamp was J-Mans summon, didn't it have the same space properties as his shrinking frog house? How do they get ocean from a land locked rain village or summoned swamp? Maybe it's intent was a sort of visual reminder for casual readers.
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Old 2010-12-10, 09:33   Link #66
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Can we say that Oro getting revived by Kabuto just isn't going to happen at this point? Seems like Kabuto has considered him dead ever since he was absorbed by Sasuke. He's only interested in obtaining and improving Oro's powers now.

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Sure it would not be an easy task to steal a body, but why take the risk in the first place... Afterall we've seen ninja sneak into kohona in the past; not hard to believe that they might be able to rob a Uchiha or Hyuuga grave
Konoha has barrier surrounding the village. The only ninja who would be able to stealthily enter the village would be those who knew where the barrier slip points are, meaning likely they were from Konoha in the first place. Itachi, Kabuto and Oro all fall into that category, explaining how Kabuto and Oro were easily able to get the DNA from so many dead Leaf nin and how Itachi was able to enter the village undetected with Kisame.

If I remember right, the only other ninja from outside the village shown to attempt something like that is the Cloud nin who kidnapped Hinata and he was an ambassador invited into the village.
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Old 2010-12-10, 11:09   Link #67
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damn .. that Deidara's DNA must've been a pain in the ass

wonder if they bothered with Hidan ... nah


btw that flushing teleportation of Madara's obviously comes from the Sharingan eye - so we can assume it's a sharingan technique or possible an EMS technique and not just a jutsu
I would have loved if Hidan came back but he's still alive
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Old 2010-12-10, 11:32   Link #68
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Can we say that Oro getting revived by Kabuto just isn't going to happen at this point? Seems like Kabuto has considered him dead ever since he was absorbed by Sasuke. He's only interested in obtaining and improving Oro's powers now.

Remeber. Oro isn't dead. He is sealed in Itachi's sword thing. Un Edo-able

Sure, if you can get him out of that....
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Old 2010-12-10, 12:11   Link #69
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Remeber. Oro isn't dead. He is sealed in Itachi's sword thing. Un Edo-able

Sure, if you can get him out of that....
I realize that. I was talking about freeing him from the sword. Though it's not really clear if Kabuto realizes Oro isn't dead or not.
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Old 2010-12-10, 12:14   Link #70
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Is Orochimaru actually sealed in the sword? there were several white snakes that escaped (escaped Susanoo, anyway.)
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Old 2010-12-10, 12:29   Link #71
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amaterasu burned em
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Old 2010-12-10, 12:40   Link #72
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Yes, but they still weren't sealed away.
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Old 2010-12-10, 13:06   Link #73
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Is Orochimaru actually sealed in the sword? there were several white snakes that escaped (escaped Susanoo, anyway.)
No, they were all sealed by Susano'o or destroyed by lingering Amaterasu flames. There is no evidence that any of them escaped Itachi's wrath.
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Old 2010-12-10, 13:25   Link #74
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I don't want Oro back

Kabuto is cooler
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Old 2010-12-10, 13:27   Link #75
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Konoha has barrier surrounding the village. The only ninja who would be able to stealthily enter the village would be those who knew where the barrier slip points are, meaning likely they were from Konoha in the first place. Itachi, Kabuto and Oro all fall into that category, explaining how Kabuto and Oro were easily able to get the DNA from so many dead Leaf nin and how Itachi was able to enter the village undetected with Kisame.

If I remember right, the only other ninja from outside the village shown to attempt something like that is the Cloud nin who kidnapped Hinata and he was an ambassador invited into the village.
There was also the sound four who slipped into the village to pay a visit to sasuke
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Old 2010-12-10, 13:33   Link #76
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No, they were all sealed by Susano'o or destroyed by lingering Amaterasu flames. There is no evidence that any of them escaped Itachi's wrath.
Kabuto had been treating Orochimaru's affliction for 3 years, it's impossible that he didn't keep a scalpel or test tube dirty for his...own personal reasons :P
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Old 2010-12-10, 13:38   Link #77
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There was also the sound four who slipped into the village to pay a visit to sasuke
they were subordinates of the former konoha ninja's kabuto and orochimaru :O
Duh.. Only possible explanation
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Old 2010-12-10, 13:56   Link #78
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Kabuto had been treating Orochimaru's affliction for 3 years, it's impossible that he didn't keep a scalpel or test tube dirty for his...own personal reasons :P
but the soul is inside Totsuka sword ..
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Old 2010-12-10, 14:30   Link #79
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they were subordinates of the former konoha ninja's kabuto and orochimaru :O
Duh.. Only possible explanation
except if Oro and Kabuto do not need to be there to get them in and can just TELL them how to get past security on there own, then your defenses are pretty damn compromised. Oro could send out flyers to all the other ninja villages detailing exactly how to get past their defenses... And then kohona is open up to loosing valuble info because they chose to bury their dead instead of cremating them

A smart village would act under the assumption that EVERYONE knows how to get in... thinking about it actually, it kind of makes me think that maybe kohona's barrier was a new feature installed after Oro's attack. In a way Oro may have proved to them how flimsy their current security was... though that does still mean that they had been risking loosing info from grave robbing for the past one hundred years

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Old 2010-12-10, 15:59   Link #80
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but the soul is inside Totsuka sword ..
Yeah, and now Itachi is back Do wonder if he will try to make a deal with Kabuto to one-up Madara...
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