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Old 2012-01-05, 06:07   Link #1221
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It's not as good as Steam, granted, but people are talking as if it's so inconvenient they'd either not play Mass Effect 3 or pirate the game instead.
That is silly, yeah. But people say that all the time and still end up buying said product.
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Old 2012-01-05, 06:56   Link #1222
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I would no doubt buy the game, but at the same time I have to agree that if Origin is implemented just like BF3: it would feel like unnecessary overhead/an added degree of annoyance.

Steam and I have a love hate relationship: while I love it for its random deals (which sometimes allow me uncover hidden gems like recettear), as well as convenience in content delivery, I hate it when servers are busy+all the annoyance it creates.
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Old 2012-01-05, 22:43   Link #1223
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I thought most people had an issue with Origin because EA's terms of agreement for it state they're free to take whatever information they deem necessary, including information that really has nothing to do with gaming. There was some articles about it a while back.
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Old 2012-01-05, 22:51   Link #1224
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I'm voting with my wallet to show distaste for the company, which is what consumers should be doing rather than just throwing money at corporations no matter what terrible things they do.
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Old 2012-01-05, 23:11   Link #1225
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Unfortunate because Bioware itself isn't that bad.
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Old 2012-01-06, 08:10   Link #1226
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I'm voting with my wallet to show distaste for the company, which is what consumers should be doing rather than just throwing money at corporations no matter what terrible things they do.
I don't think it works that way. Take domain registration for example: its fine if you decide to boycott Go Daddy for their support of SOPA and use another service, at the end of the day you are getting the same product.

Games on the other hand: ME3 is ME3. No other game, say, Deus Ex, can replace the experience. I suppose you can always fall back on the piracy option.

I fired up ME2 last night and it brought back horrors of poorly implemented interfaces (why cant I just double click??). I hope they have learned their lesson.
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Old 2012-01-06, 11:13   Link #1227
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I thought most people had an issue with Origin because EA's terms of agreement for it state they're free to take whatever information they deem necessary, including information that really has nothing to do with gaming. There was some articles about it a while back.
Which has since been changed, I might add.
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Old 2012-01-06, 13:13   Link #1228
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I don't think it works that way. Take domain registration for example: its fine if you decide to boycott Go Daddy for their support of SOPA and use another service, at the end of the day you are getting the same product.

Games on the other hand: ME3 is ME3. No other game, say, Deus Ex, can replace the experience. I suppose you can always fall back on the piracy option.

I fired up ME2 last night and it brought back horrors of poorly implemented interfaces (why cant I just double click??). I hope they have learned their lesson.
It's harder with games, but one can always just not play. I can always way to see if it comes out on Steam later too. There's a lot of games coming out next year, plus I have a pretty big backlog.
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Old 2012-01-06, 15:04   Link #1229
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It's harder with games, but one can always just not play. I can always way to see if it comes out on Steam later too. There's a lot of games coming out next year, plus I have a pretty big backlog.
It wouldn't. In fact EA pulled all their games off steam to force the use of Origin.
While I dislike the overhead, and think Origin sucks. A part of me hope it introduces some competition to Steam so it gets better.
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Old 2012-01-06, 15:07   Link #1230
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It wouldn't. In fact EA pulled all their games off steam to force the use of Origin.
While I dislike the overhead, and think Origin sucks. A part of me hope it introduces some competition to Steam so it gets better.
Well, that'd be the best case scenario.

...what are the odds? It's EA we're talking about here.
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Old 2012-01-07, 08:53   Link #1231
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Origin is just the beginning, really. The digital distribution system is only starting to get into gear, but it's already moving more and more to be the main method for gamers to buy their games. I wouldn't be surprised to see several more competitors pop up as the years progress. Heck, even blizzard is already using Battle.net as a way to buy all blizzard related games.
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Old 2012-01-07, 09:03   Link #1232
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Origin is just the beginning, really. The digital distribution system is only starting to get into gear, but it's already moving more and more to be the main method for gamers to buy their games. I wouldn't be surprised to see several more competitors pop up as the years progress. Heck, even blizzard is already using Battle.net as a way to buy all blizzard related games.
Aye, and Gamestop purchased Impulse from Stardock so they could cover themselves when brick and mortar videogame stores eventually go out of business.
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Old 2012-01-07, 09:07   Link #1233
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It wouldn't. In fact EA pulled all their games off steam to force the use of Origin.
While I dislike the overhead, and think Origin sucks. A part of me hope it introduces some competition to Steam so it gets better.
See, it only works if they all sell the same products. But if they each hold exclusive games that no others have, then there is no competition whatsoever; You are forced to use a particular system for a particular game. The driving factor will continue to be the quality of the game titles, and not the distribution system. The only way the system would be under competition is if the same game is available through multiple systems, and we get to pick our favourites.

Thus your first sentence nullifies your second. EA pulled all their games off Steam so that they don't have to compete with Steam. So they don't actually have to offer a better service whatsoever; Neither Steam nor Origin would get better because EA decided they don't want competition.

QED consumer suffers and end up with multiple distribution systems on the hard drive taking up space. And all of them don't improve because there is no competition.
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Old 2012-01-07, 09:08   Link #1234
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I doubt video game stores as an entity will ever fully go out of business. You can still find CD stores everywhere even though digital is the main thing. They're probably going to stock up more on console and handheld games, leaving the PC section to shrink.
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Old 2012-01-07, 09:47   Link #1235
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I doubt video game stores as an entity will ever fully go out of business. You can still find CD stores everywhere even though digital is the main thing. They're probably going to stock up more on console and handheld games, leaving the PC section to shrink.
They may not go out of business soon, but they will eventually. The only thing keeping them in business right now is used game sales... which the publishers hate, they considered used sales to be a greater threat than piracy, which is why online passes exist.
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Old 2012-01-07, 10:16   Link #1236
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That's exactly what people said about CD stores when MP3's started to become popular. Still plenty of CD stores around.

There will always be a demand for physical copies, and as long as that demand exists, there will be stores to supply. Besides, there's still the console market, which itself is growing as well as gaming becomes more and more mainstream.
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Old 2012-01-07, 12:55   Link #1237
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This is getting off-topic, but might as well bring up one thing. I agree that the video game stores won't be going away any time soon. It's easy enough to download a couple songs (not that big), but asking people to all the time download games isn't going to be accepted. Not everyone has the best internet or unlimited bandwidth that would allow it. Besides still a ton of people who want their physical copies and having them on their shelves.

Anyways, Mass Effect 3. Not too much further now. Just hope it comes together well. Not as supremely confident in Bioware after Dragon Age 2.
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Old 2012-01-07, 13:06   Link #1238
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Anyways, Mass Effect 3. Not too much further now. Just hope it comes together well. Not as supremely confident in Bioware after Dragon Age 2.
FYI, the reason Dragon Age 2 was 'bad' wasn't Bioware's fault, but EA's.

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Back on topic, I'm excited to see how ME3 ties the whole Mass Effect trilogy together.
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Old 2012-01-07, 13:12   Link #1239
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FYI, the reason Dragon Age 2 was 'bad' wasn't Bioware's fault, but EA's.

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Back on topic, I'm excited to see how ME3 ties the whole Mass Effect trilogy together.
Why EA's? Because they rushed the project?
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Old 2012-01-07, 13:17   Link #1240
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Why EA's? Because they rushed the project?
Exactly.

However, I'm not saying that Bioware is entirely blameless on how Dragon Age 2 turned out. I think both EA and Bioware are at fault for what happened.
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