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Old 2012-01-02, 21:58   Link #1901
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Yeah, there was a typo about the 3 perk in 2 perk thing.

So, I will go with putting perks into one-handed, upping the amount of damage that they do. I will put perks into maces, and use them for when melee fights with multiple enemies happen. The perks are better for it than for swords. So, a good way to level up both one-handed and block is to learn some low level conjuration and attack and fight the monster you summon? Also, you can attack essential NPCs that don't die, right? Who are some NPCs I can attack that are essential NPCs?
Only ones I know of are Ralof and Hadvar but that's at the beginning of the game, prior to the bear encounter. Also, the Jarls, but hitting them is just asking to slaughter an entire town, except for Balgruuf, who you can level archery/sneak for by hiding in the rafters above the throne room. Your best bet is the block technique I mentioned against giants and summoning your followers. Just get the Sanguine Rose instead of investing in Conjuration if you feel your points are too valuable to spread thinly.
Also, you have to remember that the mace perks are best only against armored enemies. Animals, giants, mages, many bandits; etc (not sure about dragons) are not armored. So it's a matter of whether you want a lot for a little or a little for a lot (since sword crits, assuming you're ditching daggers for swords are universal no matter the enemy type).
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Old 2012-01-02, 22:56   Link #1902
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Only ones I know of are Ralof and Hadvar but that's at the beginning of the game, prior to the bear encounter. Also, the Jarls, but hitting them is just asking to slaughter an entire town, except for Balgruuf, who you can level archery/sneak for by hiding in the rafters above the throne room. Your best bet is the block technique I mentioned against giants and summoning your followers. Just get the Sanguine Rose instead of investing in Conjuration if you feel your points are too valuable to spread thinly.
Also, you have to remember that the mace perks are best only against armored enemies. Animals, giants, mages, many bandits; etc (not sure about dragons) are not armored. So it's a matter of whether you want a lot for a little or a little for a lot (since sword crits, assuming you're ditching daggers for swords are universal no matter the enemy type).
My take on weapons is that mace often overkill. While mace perks are better vs the very heavily armored, against something moderately armored: even though swords do less dps, as both maces and swords would require 3 hits to kill off a target, swords would win as 3 hits with swords happen faster than 3 mace swings.



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Soooooooo, got around to picking up Skyrim. Played probably 10-15 hours into it... still don't see what everyone's raving on about. It's an alright game, it's just not.... like.... greatest game ever.


ANYWAY, defeated my 2nd Dragon today.... get's REAL annoying when they keep flying off. I use the Sword/Shield combo, but lately I've just been using the Quickbow of Stamina Damage or something along those lines, everything keeps dying off before they get close enough for the Sword/Shield attacks~
Set the difficulty to highest.
While skyrim has a pretty "simple" combat system, the beauty lies in the flexibility and replayability of the game.
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Old 2012-01-02, 23:16   Link #1903
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Soooooooo, got around to picking up Skyrim. Played probably 10-15 hours into it... still don't see what everyone's raving on about. It's an alright game, it's just not.... like.... greatest game ever.
It's not the greatest game ever, but it IS the greatest game of its type purely because no one else makes them except Bethesda. Frankly, I am not sure there is anything you can compare Skyrim with except other Bethesda games.

And since this is the kind of game I actually like to play, by that logic Skyrim is the best ever for me personally. I will be happy to see if I could change my mind as soon as another company try to make their own equivalent RPG.

EDIT: Also, Skyrim is a Single Player Game. For that alone I would have been happy. Too many people think Multiplayer goes with everything when it doesn't.
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Old 2012-01-02, 23:48   Link #1904
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Old 2012-01-03, 03:51   Link #1905
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Has anyone had this problem? Going into a certain place almost always crashes? I'd like to know if others have had this problem in this place or any other places. I'd also like to know if there is a possible solution. This happens consistently, and most times I go there, but not every time. It takes about 10-100 seconds before the game closes down on me.

The game goes to desktop almost every time I go to Arcadia's Cauldron now, so I won't go there anymore. I keep trying to see if I could solve the problem, and I couldn't. I reloaded old but recent saves. I determined that when I was at level 33 for alchemy, I could go in there just fine. But then I leveled up to 38 with her as a trainer, and that lead to the buginess. I reloaded an old save and trained with someone in Mortal instead, reached level 38, and then the buginess ensued then, too. It kept bringing me to the desktop, and then one time it caused the game to freeze and I had to open the task manager, and then I decided to just not go there anymore.

Has anyone had any places that they just have problems with like that?
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Old 2012-01-03, 04:38   Link #1906
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Has anyone had this problem? Going into a certain place almost always crashes? d like to know if others have had this problem in this place or any other places. I'd also like to know if there is a possible solution. This happens consistently, and most times I go there, but not every time. It takes about 10-100 seconds before the game closes down on me.

The game goes to desktop almost every time I go to Arcadia's Cauldron now, so I won't go there anymore. I keep trying to see if I could solve the problem, and I couldn't. I reloaded old but recent saves. I determined that when I was at level 33 for alchemy, I could go in there just fine. But then I leveled up to 38 with her as a trainer, and that lead to the buginess. I reloaded an old save and trained with someone in Mortal instead, reached level 38, and then the buginess ensued then, too. It kept bringing me to the desktop, and then one time it caused the game to freeze and I had to open the task manager, and then I decided to just not go there anymore.

Has anyone had any places that they just have problems with like that?

Oh sure, my first time was going through an ice cave pass to reach a Dragon Shrine at the top, every time I was about to face the troll at the end the game crashes without warning.


The only thing I did to overcome it was to... Well, I just never save inside the cave Seriously, this is more about voodoo than it is a science
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Old 2012-01-03, 05:08   Link #1907
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So I restarted my game with new char with completely different skills and play style from my 1st one. But I feel very lazy to open up the new locations with this new character.

You suggest continue playing new character or stick with my old one and level up other skills.

New character - lvl 9
Old character - lvl 39
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Old 2012-01-03, 05:16   Link #1908
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I'm happy to say that there hasn't been one perk point that I've used that I feel is a waste. I just think that I should have leveled some things up sooner. I'm now trying to level up light armor and block some more. I do kind of wish that I leveled them up sooner, but I do have some nice archery and alchemy perks. I also have to level up sneak more, for bonus damage on daggers and bows. However, I've been pretty good with perks. By level 40, I'll have most of the perks I really want. By around level 50, I'll be mostly spending perk points on things I want, but not things I want as much as the things I got to first. I'm at level 21 now.
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Old 2012-01-03, 05:51   Link #1909
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I got a question and im hoping someone can answer it :P
It's about dragon souls i know there are 20 dragon shouts with all 3 ranks
so that would mean you should get 60 souls to get all ranks of all shouts.

Now is my question how many dragon souls can you get in total ?
can you get more then 60 souls ? i mean are there more then 60 "free flying dragons" ?
because i kinda wasted one
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Old 2012-01-03, 06:08   Link #1910
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LuieHond: The shouts that you get from the Greybeards (Clear Skies, the last two parts of Unrelenting Force and Whirlwind Sprint) you don't need souls to learn. Everything else you need Dragon souls to unlock, but don't worry since you're not going to run out of dragons anytime soon, as random dragon encounters (where you will get most of your souls) will keep on happening as you travel.

Heck, my first character's got more Souls than shouts to spend them on anymore.
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Old 2012-01-03, 07:02   Link #1911
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LuieHond: The shouts that you get from the Greybeards (Clear Skies, the last two parts of Unrelenting Force and Whirlwind Sprint) you don't need souls to learn. Everything else you need Dragon souls to unlock, but don't worry since you're not going to run out of dragons anytime soon, as random dragon encounters (where you will get most of your souls) will keep on happening as you travel.

Heck, my first character's got more Souls than shouts to spend them on anymore.
it's not the shout you get from the greybeards but from the dragon ontop of the greybeard mountains

but you will get more souls than required for shouts ?
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Old 2012-01-03, 09:03   Link #1912
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it's not the shout you get from the greybeards but from the dragon ontop of the greybeard mountains

but you will get more souls than required for shouts ?
You get 1 word of Fire Breath free from Paarthunax yes.

And yes, throughout the entire game you get more Dragon Souls than you will ever need to spend for Shouts.
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Old 2012-01-03, 11:36   Link #1913
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You get 1 word of Fire Breath free from Paarthunax yes.

And yes, throughout the entire game you get more Dragon Souls than you will ever need to spend for Shouts.
okay thank you!! ^^ that is what i was hoping to hear
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Old 2012-01-03, 13:07   Link #1914
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So I restarted my game with new char with completely different skills and play style from my 1st one. But I feel very lazy to open up the new locations with this new character.

You suggest continue playing new character or stick with my old one and level up other skills.

New character - lvl 9
Old character - lvl 39
If you're on the PC playing, you *can* use console command instructions to reset your perks. Then its just a matter of which character you're more emotionally attached to.

Running through story lines you've run through already with a new character can get boring. Even with different races, I've found only superficial differences ("throwaway dialog"). That disappointed me as I would expect much more serious differences in NPC reactions to, say, orc vs high elf. The racist noises from certain Nords were the only satisfaction I got on that level. The elf in the first village had some beginning dialog that sounded promising (haranguing my orc-ette) but he immediately dropped back standard interaction.

Here's the mods I'm running with at the moment (via Nexus mod management).
1) Calientes Female Body (CBBE) Slim Body edition v2.1
2) Elven_Ponytails (there's several hairstyle mods but this one seemed crucial )
3) Enhanced Night Skyrim (night sky) (the way the sky can look in a land without electricity)
4) Forsworn Armor Improved (A bit more skin without being obnoxious)
5) Fountain of Youth v1.5 (removes the Bethesda ugly stick issue)
6) New textures for human and elven men (yes, even the men deserve attention)
7) A Quality World Map - With Roads (shoot the cartographer that thinks a map doesn't need roads and passes marked)
8) RWT High Res (realistic water textures)
9) Skyrim HD -2K Textures (gets rid of that blocky "I were designed for console" textures)

There are some others that come and go (armor/clothing replacements mostly, glowing ore veins, etc) but often they are unready for prime time (poor integration with body) ... or they reflect the "12 yr old porn" mind. Don't get me wrong, I love skin and sexy... but not clinical and not "there's no way anyone of any culture would wear this".

There's a few UI mods I'm about to experiment with (SkyUI) ... I probably won't mess with "new houses" or wilder changes til I finish the initial run through of the main game plotline.
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Old 2012-01-03, 16:29   Link #1915
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What is this Bethesda ugly stick issue?
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Old 2012-01-03, 16:35   Link #1916
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What is this Bethesda ugly stick issue?
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All of Bethesda's games are prone to what fans gently poke at with the term "ugly stick" --- the character designs are ugly, they look like they've been beaten with "ugly sticks". Not just plain but "no I wouldn't date him or her if my life depended on it"

So usually the very first mods to come out are "de-uglification" mods.

EDIT: To whomever commented via rep (Hate to give you this, but Skryim's people are not prettied up like jRPG's) ... I don't play jRPGs as a rule. I've played RPGs like Bioware and Baldur and... well all the way back to when RPGs were just text adventures. So my opinion stands that Bethesda made some errors in their facial structure algorithms and the results were ugly by any standard. Skyrim faces show they took the input and did some work after Oblivion.
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Old 2012-01-03, 17:56   Link #1917
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Skyrim is ok, there's plenty of nice females. Oblivion was atrocious though.
Fallout 3/New Vegas to some extent too, but there were some really attractive guys and females.
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Old 2012-01-03, 18:58   Link #1918
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I find the ugly stick is very well personified by there being a "dirt" meter as one of the prominent options in character creation. The npcs sure made liberal use of it too. I played on console so no mods, just picked whoever's voice I liked best since none of them were winning points based on appearance. (Then again my character was an orc who I deliberately made as ugly as possible so I guess he shouldn't have been picky.)
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Old 2012-01-03, 20:05   Link #1919
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Someone posted a miku mod earlier, I wouldn't mind if a team anime-ized every single female in the game. Shana and Saber can be my follower any day of the week.
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Old 2012-01-03, 21:00   Link #1920
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All of Bethesda's games are prone to what fans gently poke at with the term "ugly stick" --- the character designs are ugly, they look like they've been beaten with "ugly sticks". Not just plain but "no I wouldn't date him or her if my life depended on it"

So usually the very first mods to come out are "de-uglification" mods.
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Otherwise they would have just used their charm to get acquitted.
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