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View Poll Results: Tate no Yuusha/Shield Hero - Episode 14 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 1 | 7.69% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 2 | 15.38% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 8 | 61.54% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 1 | 7.69% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 7.69% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2019-04-09, 21:59 | Link #1 | ||||
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2019-04-10, 11:13 | Link #2 |
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That was a raphtalia focused episode which is pretty good, dedicate a little it of time to her is always nice. Is evident that all the abuse commited by the fat guy and the tragedy that happened on the town where Raph used to live as a child left a deep scar on her mind, Naofumi wasn't acting based on his feelings most of the time in this episode but at the same time he wanted to take care of Raph and save Melty from this fat guy.
Is understandable why Raph wanted to deal with this problem alone and I respect how naofumi isn't getting in the way, she's strong enough to face that piece of shit who's now begging for his life. |
2019-04-10, 11:17 | Link #3 |
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And suddenly we have a tragic heroine backstory arc!
I don't know if I'm not paying attention every episode or whatever but I can't really understand why some of the characters here do what they do. First off, that's one mighty coincidence, they find themselves in friendly territory, got some rest, and then suddenly the fat guy from somewhere decides to invade and "arrest" their ally the next day! Really?? On what basis, it's not like Nao and the others were seen around that mansion! Not only that, he has a past with Raphtalia! Small world! And finally, the skinny guy who's supposed to be a noble only has 2 maids with him? No soldiers/bodyguards? While that other guy has a small army? Really??? Then I thought they were all running away from the murderous bi Myne but suddenly Melty wants that other nobleman to take her to the capital? I know they wouldn't have been able to escape if not for that ruse Melty came up with, but what if something happened to her between getting captured and Nao infiltrating the castle? Did she forget that the soldiers directly under the king tried to run a sword through her days ago? The fat guy already did something illegal by arresting and torturing a fellow lord, so what's stopping him from doing the same to Melty? It just doesn't make any sense because I thought the whole thing was to prevent Myne from finding out where Melty was???
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2019-04-10, 12:13 | Link #4 | |
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Obviously Idol (fat guy) has spies in his neighbors' territories. Given his behavior and personal army, he's unlikely to trust any of them. Thus he probably got word about the Shield Hero's party entering Reichnott's estate fairly quickly. Idol having a past with Raphtalia... Well, she obviously has to have had her past take place somewhere, which means we were going to run into it eventually. Reichnott has at least 3 maids, as the one who was helping them hide in the kitchen was different than the two that served dinner. The two that we see in the attic are the one who helped them hide, and one of the servers. As for why he only has a handful of maids, and not an army of soldiers, well, we don't know anything about the size or wealth of his domain, but we do see that he has a modest 3-story mansion, whereas Idol has a walled keep atop a cliff-faced hilltop, with easily defensible raised roads that lead out to the surrounding town. The difference in apparent power is massive. Just based on where they live, I would absolutely expect Idol to have a personal army (pretty much needed to make that castle make sense), whereas Reichnott's handful of maids is all that's needed if he lives there alone. If he had a family, I'd expect more servants, and maybe a guard retainer or two. However if he's as good at stealth as implied, a personal guard for him would be of minimal value. Further, Reichnott seems to rule an area mainly populated by demi-humans. I expect that if he had a retinue of soldiers under his command, that could create a lot of agitation with nearby nobles. As for Melty asking for Idol to escort her back to the capital: She still has that implicit trust in nobility, and expects that, even if Idol has some issues with the king, he will still conform to certain levels of behavior and decorum. Despite what she's learned from Naofumi, she still believes that nobles will "behave properly", more or less. She doesn't want to believe that Myne is not exactly the exception. Further, even if her own guard turned against her, Idol's soldiers are his personal army. It would be unthinkably unlikely that they would be under the same influence as those that would convince the king's soldiers to betray royalty. Or, more specifically, that can't be controlled by Myne, and thus are inherently more trustworthy. Having them escort her back to the capital is a logical decision, as they aren't likely to betray her, and will protect her from any attempts by the royal guard to attack her. Well, if Idol wasn't a horrible scumbag, anyway. |
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2019-04-10, 12:17 | Link #5 |
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Looks like fatso there was a member of the church here. Good thing Nafoumi intervened, it was clear where that was going. Especially considering the disgusting implications about Raphatlia's past and that sicko's choice of weapon.
Also LOL at Filo doing her impression of the Kool-aid Man
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2019-04-10, 14:33 | Link #7 |
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I don't know but this episodes made me feel better than last week's. Naofumi seems more mature than last time, we got more screentime for the supporting characters and for once, people are being nice.
Then again, while many will find the obvious pedo guy disturbing, I think it's better shown as a threat than when the "other hero" started chasing Filo in some sort of comic relief.
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2019-04-10, 16:34 | Link #8 |
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I find it a bit hard to believe that Idol guy would be willing to torture Melty, the freaking crown princess. Evil shouldn't equal dumb/reckless. As far as we know and unless I missed some hints, he isn't in Myne's pocket and he knows the king personally (Melty mentioned they fought together), why would he risk doing such a thing to his king's daugther? He'd be digging his own grave.
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2019-04-10, 16:41 | Link #9 |
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I believe Reichnott has a connection to the previous lord or something. And as for Idol's presence, it was already mentioned that the moment the king got a little bit of authority he used it to move pro-demi-human nobles to places where they'd have no power or influence and replaced them with people like that. I'd imagine that's at least why someone that blatant has a position so close to Reichnott's manor and apparently has enough power to pull stunts like this. King's prejudice is strong enough to tread the boundary between taking liberties while watching things for his wife and complete hostile takeover. How much would you bet the moment the queen comes home a whole lot of those recently-promoted nobles will find themselves demoted and/or arrested?
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2019-04-10, 18:38 | Link #11 | |
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And before anyone brings it up, being a follower of the church doesn't make him immune to the king's wrath.
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2019-04-10, 18:56 | Link #12 | |
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2019-04-10, 19:13 | Link #14 | |
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So it seems like a lot of this anti Demi-Human sentiment popped up after something occurred during the First Wave, which I guess is when something bad happened to the king's other family which is why he sicked the knights on Raphtalia's village (if I'm following the order of events correctly). Was there some kind of a rebellion that the original Shield Hero led or inspired? Maybe Sitvelt led an incursion into Melromarc to cause a Demi-Human uprising ?
Well, I guess if one good thing is coming out of this is that Melty is realizing just how much of the kingdom needs to be reformed when she hears how the Demi-Humans have been treated and seeing how corrupt some of the nobility is. The fact that she says she'll make sure Raphtalia sees justice for what happened to her is a positive sign for her as future queen and for the kingdom as a whole . Nothing says you can trust somebody by them emphasizing your food isn't poisoned and then getting arrested trying to protect you from evil nobles. I also have to admit, "The only one I know is the Shield Hero" is a pretty awesome line . It's nice to see that Naofumi has finally come around to Melty and realizes she's a truly genuine and good person who believes in him as the Shield Hero, to the point where he's willing to go out on a limb to protect and save her. And conversely being with Naofumi helps bring out the more childish emotions Melty usually represses . I wonder if a lot of the knights and lords are under standing orders by Myne to prioritize finding and taking care of the Shield Hero first and securing Melty for Myne to take care of later. Malty's whole ruse relies entirely on Melty not getting close enough to the king to be able to reveal to him what's been going on so she probably has to make sure Melty doesn't even get close to the capital . With her magic, I have to imagine Melty was probably safe from that noble, but getting distracted and grabbed gave a legitimate reason for Naofumi and company to really step in . Man, you know the latest evil noble is a real piece of work when even Raphtalia, of all people, seems to despise them with every fiber of her being. Like, this is the girl who has been unfailingly polite and courteous to everyone, even people who she knows have screwed over her beloved Naofumi, so seeing her have such a violent reaction to someone and seem willing to kill them in cold blood says a lot. I can only imagine how horrifying what Raphtalia went through as a slave was before Naofumi found her . Quote:
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Also remember that the first Wave was only a few months before the summoning, at best. That's not nearly enough time to build up the type of racial hatred we see here. Quote:
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I just realized this, it didn't even occur to me how the fat guy who had a small army wasn't able to stop a mob of peasants from running up to the front gate of his castle. Also, Nao commented something about how the stealth skill of the skinny guy was not normal, since he crept up on them without Nao noticing, but yeah, he got captured that easily. Sure, he might've been taken by surprise, but why point out the stealth skill of that guy if he's not going to use it?? Quote:
The noble attacked the skinny guy's mansion because he was looking for the shield hero, and she already knew Myne planted some fake news about how Nao burned down the forest to cover their tracks and that Nao brainwashed Melty, so it isn't a stretch for her to conclude that the fat guy was in on the plot and that he might just kill her, regardless of whether he's acting under the orders of Myne or not. Again, I thought the point of all this hiding was so they couldn't find Melty because Myne/Malty was trying to kill her, and that they don't know who to trust, then suddenly she comes out in the open, confirming their location and at the same time makes it easier for Myne to dispose of her.
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Not to mention his people. If he fled, this could be used against him to push him out much faster than if he stood up for himself and claimed no knowledge of the Shield's presence. Flight would be taken as confirmation of guilt and leave his people in a very vulnerable state, while enduring this torment and insisting no involvement gives him a better chance at maintaining his position and thus protecting everyone. Quote:
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