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View Poll Results: Mahouka [LN/M] - Master Clan Conference Arc (Volume 17-19) Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 12 | 25.53% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 10 | 21.28% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 13 | 27.66% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 7 | 14.89% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 3 | 6.38% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 1 | 2.13% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 1 | 2.13% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2015-07-10, 15:31 | Link #21 | |
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2015-07-10, 15:45 | Link #22 | |
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As for Tatsuya using Mayumi, to me it looks like they've had a mutually beneficial relationship. And the engagement was just announced, it wasn't some hidden secret. Maybe Mayumi suspects that they've been engaged for some time, but there is no proof. |
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2015-07-10, 15:54 | Link #23 |
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Kinda amusing that most of you are only taking in account the Tatsuya-Mayumi relationship, he didn't lie to her about is family but some lies were mixed in it and seriously, saying that it's because she never asked is a lame excuse. He didn't only lie to her, he lied to many other persons but most, not all of his lies were necessary as he was ordered to hide his identity.
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2015-07-10, 16:25 | Link #24 | |
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Honestly, it's pretty odd that (as far as I can remember) nobody from First High except Katsuto and Erika has outright asked them about their family. After all of the exploits of Tatsuya and Miyuki, no one has even brought it up with them? With their power and the emphasis Japan's magical community seems to place on clan names, you'd think someone would have investigated or at least brought it up. Maybe it's because 'Shiba' is not a famous magician family name so people just let it go. But still, you'd think someone would have asked. Tatsuya has misled people about many things. For instance, he let Mikihiko believe pursuing Zhou was JSDF business and not a Yotsuba mission. Nobody at First High knows Tatsuya's real strength, whether it be combat or magic. They have some idea of his combat prowess, but didn't know that he's a trained killer. Obviously, they have no clue about his magical excellence. To get back on topic, it will be interesting to see if people at First High figure out that Tatsuya's no defective magician. They probably know that some Yotsubas have a few innate abilities, rather than a general excellence with all magics (Miyuki being the exception). I'm sure they'll all have figured out that Tatsuya has been trained to kill, based on his name and what they've seen him do. |
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2015-07-10, 16:27 | Link #25 | |
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2015-07-10, 16:38 | Link #26 | |
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2015-07-10, 16:39 | Link #27 |
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1) this guy lies the whole day long if he deems it necessary without any regret at all
2) he technically didn't lie ... he was a guardian and not a Yotsuba - true, but that doesn't matter at all since Mayumi doesn't know about that. She might perceive it as a lie nonetheless. Emotions like sadness, feeling betrayed etc. are triggered by what she believes to be true and not by the truth. 3) I assume the bigger problem and true reason for the emotions she seems to have on the cover is the family Tatsuya belongs to and his engagement. |
2015-07-10, 17:22 | Link #28 | |
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2015-07-10, 18:22 | Link #30 |
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suddenly, an idea flashed in my head. tatsuya vs masaki is vague but, what if we go on it over gouki, after miyuki rejects masaki, gouki presses more and wants to show off that his son, the heir of ichijou clan, stronger than tatsuya and deserves miyuki more than him, also he thinks their honour as ichijou will be repaired which was damaged in the 9SC. he presses to tatsuya to vs against masaki, and he thinks in the 10mc which has less restriction(high possibly) rules, masaki can win against tatsuya.
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2015-07-10, 18:27 | Link #31 | |
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2015-07-10, 19:27 | Link #32 |
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As much as i want to defend Tat as a fan, i have to admit that he did lie on many occasions. But that lies did not incur any losses to Kasuto or Mayumi so what's the deal? He is absolutely not a villain he just act with his/his sister best interest in mind.
About facing off b/n Tat and the prick(don't blame me i just hate him), your scenario is interesting but i think Gouki's hidden agenda asking for the marriage is more than meet the eyes. It should be something more than trying to undermine Yotsuba's power and strengthening his own family's blood line. Is it as simple as father doting on his son? p.s. Sadly, nobody want to join my previous guessing...sob... |
2015-07-10, 19:55 | Link #33 | |
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2015-07-10, 19:55 | Link #34 |
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I don't think Mayumi would be too surprised as she connects their ridiculous magic aptitude with the knowledge that they're somehow related to the fourth magic lab, the conclusion isn't too far off.
More randomly, will Minami still need to pretend to be their cousin, and if not, how will people treat her if she's, even remotely, related to the Yotsuba. |
2015-07-10, 19:59 | Link #35 | |
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“Apart from the the military police, is it?” “Yes. It is not a formal operation” Masaki perfectly understood that he was suggesting of an illegal operation. “Soon they will be entering the gates of the base” “From the gate?.... I see so they are using outer systematic magic?” Tatsuya nodded in Masaki’s question. Masaki guessed the identity of the ‘magicians who were mobilized in secret’. Magician specialized in outer systematic magic, magician that might go against the JSDF. Masaki only had 1 idea of where that though was heading to. “Shiba, you are…” “I’m different from them” Before the question formed, Tatsuya denied him flatly." That's virtually flat out lying to Masaki in volume 15. He was operating as a Yotsuba guardian, on a Yotsuba family assignment, with Yotsuba family blood flowing through his veins yet he flat out denied involvement with them........ In volume 13: "Besides, Tatsuya was also a person of the Yotsuba. Even though his relatives did not acknowledge him as a member of the Yotsuba, looking objectively, Tatsuya was unmistakably a warrior of the Yotsuba. Kazama was essentially part of the brass of the 101st brigade which had the potential to be an antagonistic influence against the Ten Master Clans, so it would be natural for him to conceal things from someone who, as a subordinate of the Yotsuba, was under the command of the Ten Master Clans. " Tatsuya clearly acknowledges here that objectively he is part of the Yotsuba family. Yet in volume 3 he denied being a member because subjectively he didn't feel like one/ isn't treated like an actual family member. But objectively speaking he is part of the Yotsuba family, undeniably. |
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2015-07-10, 21:18 | Link #36 |
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Honestly, I don't really understand the purpose of establishing that Tatsuya is a liar. It's not like he particularly cares about how the people he has "lied" to feel. It wasn't his duty to tell them the truth after all nor is he obligated in anyway to treat them like he trusts them. They are merely acquaintances. Even if they feel hurt or angry, it's pretty obvious he wouldn't give a shit. How they feel is their business, not his and I don't see why he would be bothered.
He's certainly not a villain or a bad person for keeping things close to his chest and not blabbing his secret to any and everyone. If people are hurt because they believed he'd never lie to them, that's their fault for having unrealistic expectations. After all, he never swore to be BFFsFFE with anyone.
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2015-07-10, 22:21 | Link #37 | |
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2015-07-10, 23:49 | Link #38 | |
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2015-07-11, 00:09 | Link #39 |
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Well... let's get back on track shall we? Which supporting families among 28 clans do u guys think will replace the current 10MC? I don't think Shippou's family will get promoted. There is also a possibility to maintain the status quo. I believe that the criterias used for consideration should be:
-Housing strong magicians -Having great achievements/track records relating to magic community during 4 yrs interval (i.e. participate in defending country, invent new magics etc) 10MC meeting is held every 4 years right? -Having recommendation by big wigs or current 10MC Do u think there is a chance that Saegusa will fall to "extra" before the series end? |
2015-07-11, 00:35 | Link #40 |
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guys just one question why are you so sure that the 3rd person on the cover is tat's ? ( at lest it fells like most of you are ) the combination of mayumi and mari on the cover dosn't make mutch sense if it is him
i think it may be a new character for example a hiden fiance for mayumi |
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