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View Poll Results: Schwarzesmarken - Episode 11 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 1 | 12.50% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 2 | 25.00% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 2 | 25.00% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 25.00% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 12.50% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2016-03-19, 23:00 | Link #1 | ||||
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2016-03-20, 13:10 | Link #2 |
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Damn, now even Gretel is gone too. No one is safe in this show, no one.
On a negative note, I'm rather disappointed by the lack of characterization of Beatrix this season even though she has a prominent role in this episode.
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2016-03-20, 20:05 | Link #4 |
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I'm glad they gave some proper moaning to Lise. Also positively surprised that in the end she gave Theo the whereabouts of Iris.
R.I.P. Gretel. So much for bulletproof. Lol Damn Axmann though... Good fights this episode. Can't wait to see Theo's new mech beast in action. And with his imouto's keepsake ribbon on his cockpit no less!
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Five or six times in Axman's case, because it seems like it would pay to be certain with a guy like that. The bulletproofing is representative of a quality-control problem that was endemic to East Block countries, though. That happens when you make performance evaluation solely based on quantity and the end user doesn't get another choice. Quote:
...And now for some reason I have this image stuck in my head of Theo ripping a latex disguise mask off of his TSF and revealing that he's actually Dio piloting an F-22. |
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2016-03-20, 22:14 | Link #7 |
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Hmmm....
Again, there are changes. Most of them for the better. Spoiler for Changes compared to relevant VN volume, not spoilerish for the final episode but hey, some people get mad about comparisons that aren't tagged:
I really wish they gave Beatrix's character some proper showing before this episode. There is a lot more to her and given how much has to be done in the final episode, I don't think it will get a proper mention at this rate. Which is a real pity. Oh well...one week until we see how they wrap things up. Wouldn't surprise me if the episode length for the finale is longer than normal. But one thing is for certain - it's going to be a very bloody ending. Hopefully the core characters get enough time.
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2016-03-20, 22:35 | Link #8 | |
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Well, its not as if what they're doing is working by any, by any stretch of the imagination. They're in more or less a perfect position to go nuclear without a lot of major drawbacks; they have a solid east-facing fortified defense line with plenty of artillery that forces the BETA to mass to attack it with a reasonable chance of success.
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I'm not saying that its a perfect plan, but this is a world where there are few few good options left. |
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2016-03-20, 22:53 | Link #9 | |
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2016-03-20, 23:12 | Link #10 | |
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...That said, considering the who we're talking about, they actually might do that, and then act surprised when it doesn't work. |
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2016-03-20, 23:41 | Link #11 |
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And there goes Gretel as well(kinda doubt she made it out alive, even if the bullet didn't kill her).
I half-way expected Anett to bite the dust as well when her TSF got shot up a bit. Anett,Sylvia & Walter - I don't see all of these 3 making out alive when all's said & done. If it's Walter or Sylvia, the other will prolly go down too - a couple's death(I assume they're a couple, or at least very close). This is gonna be me if Iris dies though: We're talking bad LoL matches salty here, or as Theodor's tears were mourning for best girl Lise this ep. |
2016-03-20, 23:43 | Link #12 |
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Noooo! Gretel died! I wanted you alive!
Though I disagree about the bulletproof part. If shot by a rifle-caliber or a 7.62x25mm would penetrate the suit. There, clearly Axmann wasn't wielding a Makarov, but a Tokarev-type pistol. In fact, 7.62x25mm can shoot through a certain classes of bulletproof vest like a hot butter. I felt sad for Theo to mourn on his imouto, but that had to be done or anything could gone worse than a shithole. Anett felt it too, even though Lise was the enemy. By the way, is it me or do I find Anett looks attractive? I think she can become Theo's waifu when most of his waifu candidates died. Schmidt was revealed to be a KGB agent all along. Just as I suspected, that the so-called Moscow faction is a KGB-affiliated Stasi, especially with a few among the top brass turned out to be a KGB proxy. After all, Stasi used to have a deep connection with the KGB during the Cold War. Because of this, at least they show to us that Beatrix do has standards when she learns that "Gregori" is in way over his head to bring in a nuclear weapon. Though it seems a little late to show that to us, cause the pacing seems sloppy. Anyway, Theo finally earned a new MiG-23 Cheburashka-Zwei - using a salvaged Lise's headless MiG-23 body and Iris' MiG-21PF's head. His head dreams of Iris and a body of Lise he bonked - the product of his adultering life choices. MiG-23 is a good leap from MiG-21 in combat capabilities. Despite this, MiG-23 wouldn't stand a chance against MiG-27 in combat because the latter is much more advanced (It's ironic how the real-life MiG-27 was a MiG-23 variant modified for ground-attack capabilities, rather than furthering enhancing speed, maneuverability & CQC). Even so, the waifu power shall help him defeat Beatrix. May the Waifu Force be with you, Theo boy! |
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2016-03-21, 00:03 | Link #14 | |
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F-15 would definitely render them both "obsolete", but neither MiG-23 nor MiG-27 made to compete F-15 to begin with. Although F-15 was designed in response to MiG-25 (But in Muv-Luv, it's in the opposite in TSF development). It'd be better if F-15s are on the hand of the Japanese for melee combat, to further expanding its combat potential. Still, to compare with F-15, Su-27 is an appropriate option. Both are heavies, after all. |
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2016-03-21, 03:47 | Link #16 | |
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Also I read the wiki comments I pretty much have an idea how lise went down but still the feels in this episode is real ;_; |
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2016-03-21, 08:55 | Link #19 |
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I still don't understand why Axmann burnt the Stasi Archives. (plus that Layout looked pretty inefficient)
Is it too late or can we still rename that west german pilot to ass-girl? Oh, and general (or whatever we was again), the word you were searching for when talking about the "intervention in force" was "invasion". I guess once this is over I will have to either get a grip on the source material or at least read the wiki about Beatrix, it feels like there is much more to her than we got in the anime. I am generally a bit in a Muv-Luv hype right now, what is considered to be the best part of it available to us westerners? It is not just you. And the longer the series progressed the more she grew on me. Sadly, I don't believe she will survive the last bloodbath. #KeepAnettAlive #SaveOurWaifus |
2016-03-21, 12:43 | Link #20 | |
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They could plant them in ground between waves and make a nuclear mine field.
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