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Perfect 10 | 23 | 44.23% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 23 | 44.23% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 4 | 7.69% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 2 | 3.85% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 0 | 0% | |
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2016-09-04, 19:21 | Link #41 |
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Well, at least the next time he does this he can prevent most of this crap from happening, right?
Not sure how he's going to get out of the possession issue, but Julius mentioned he was good with spirits. Maybe a temp-contract with Puck? Wait... how did he not possess Subabru when he was killed by Puck? Unless that laughing was proof he was being possessed!
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2016-09-04, 20:19 | Link #42 | |
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As for getting out of being possessed, he probably just has to be out of range of possession when they finally kill all the fingers. |
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2016-09-04, 20:49 | Link #43 | |
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Am I the only that thinks Betelgeuse ended possessing Puck in that loop? He did say something like Subaru was slothful in the end.
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The first argument is a fallacy. Why do they have to choose one of two? Why can't they blame both? The comparison is wrong either. The right equivalence of the situation is: A certain bank is guaranteed to be robbed and you are forced to be at the bank every day. Same as above. The right comparison is: Someone is guaranteed to be hit by a car and you are forced to stay near him.
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GDB and Kakurin-san, I certainly understand that moridin84's comment might be morally displeasing to you. I get why you take exception here. That being said, moridin84 does have a point. "Blame" is a strong word, and I'm not sure I'd go that far, but this much is almost certainly true - If Emilia had chosen somewhere else to live, somewhere much farther away, these villagers would have likely remain unharmed. That's cold, maybe even as cold as Puck can be, but it's still true. Whether Emilia likes it or not (and I suspect it's mostly "not"), she is a special person. And as a special person, she draws special attention. This is why the car accident and bank robbery analogies honestly don't work that well. With one important exception, Emilia is like a wanted freedom fighter hiding out near a remote village - The dictator's brutal forces are drawn to that village because she's there. For the villagers in my analogy, and for the actual villagers in this show, if this special wanted person wasn't living near them, they'd be safe. So the villagers in this show have a point, their fear and anger are understandable. Yes, it's nasty, but their lives are truly at stake, and so are the lives of their families. The main thing I take from moridin's point here is that we shouldn't condemn the villagers. They are in fact technically correct that if Emilia was living far away from them, they would be safe. The danger they sensed is very real, as they have now been brutally attacked, with it seeming like some have been massacred. This episode has actually given me a greater appreciation for Emilia and her plight. It's good to truly see that her desire for equality likely goes beyond simple bland platitude to something very personal and very real. Emilia's special status causes her, and the people living nearby her, major problems. It makes sense that she'd think something like "Why can't all people just be equal? Then I wouldn't have to put up with the horrible curse of my special status!" Yes, Emilia's situation is brutally unfair, in all likelihood. Because that's the important exception to my analogy above - Emilia likely did nothing to cause this, whereas the freedom fighter did in fact take up arms at some point in order to gain his fame/notoriety. It appears that Emilia is wanted and targeted purely due to what she is (a half-elf with silver hair), and not anything that she's done. Nonetheless, the villagers are truly separate 3rd parties in all of this, so while their position is cold/harsh, it does make practical sense.
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2016-09-04, 23:48 | Link #46 |
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Normies in this world that possess no power are completely reliant on their feudal lords for protection. The villagers are basically Roswaal's serfs - and if some wizard or swordsman of moderate power decides to, they can easily slaughter those people.
But it's not like the village is being guarded 24/7. It's only protected by the pretense that there's no reason to attack it, and that any attackers would suffer retribution from Roswaal. None of that matters if the witch's cult is brought in, though. So in a way, yes, their lord taking in Emilia completely violates any bond of trust they used to have. The villagers were cut off and left to die in favor of Emilia. That's their reality, but yes, they're "victim blaming", lol.
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2016-09-05, 01:08 | Link #47 |
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Hmmm Betelgeuse was saying that the Ordeal was almost over when they were finishing him off while he was in Subaru's body. So I'm guessing Emilia's performance in killing off that finger met with their approval for whatever purpose they have?
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2016-09-05, 01:40 | Link #49 |
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That's what I was saying. Satella's attention is forcibly called, and instead of seeing her beloved Subaru as usually she sees some freak trying to forcible insert himself into him. Combine that and the glimpses of her personality we've seen so far and that can't go well well at all.
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2016-09-05, 02:25 | Link #50 |
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The problem with that solution is that Julius and Felix were nearby--and seem to have followed him closely--, so it is possible that Satella would kill them, at least if Subaru decided to go far enough for Satella to use her kill power.
Then again, perhaps next loop, he can somehow get further away from them and try calling out to Satella. Speaking of Julius and Felix, this episode makes me lament the lack of waifuing as a result of not making them Julia and Felicia. At least we got a lot of tsundere jokes with Julius. |
2016-09-05, 04:42 | Link #51 | |
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Anyway, Subaru is probably going to Return by Death, and this time he has even more knowledge of what's going to happen...he might be able to counter Betelgeuse's revival gig...sure hope he does.
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2016-09-05, 04:47 | Link #52 | |
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So here all the Betelgeuse VA listed in this episode.
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2016-09-05, 04:56 | Link #53 |
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the question is... how far would the time reverts back? go back to our Mr. Apple "save point" guy?
so we'll get a different confession from Rem at the tower again or not? I prefer they won't repeat the Hakugei hunt again.. it already closed out perfectly Betelgeuse proved to be an awesome and super-troublesome villain while our Subaru only managed to use only his head to beat him Best part of episode? I won't deny that introducing Emilia again is good *can't believe that she didn't notice Subaru at all* Emilia is probably the best heroine (while Rem is best waifu) Oh well, best part of this episode is the ending obviously.. I didn't expect Felis' tears and burst out ("I have this power to serve Crusch-sama, and not for this!") and Julius' sweet confession ("Subaru! Isn't there something you want to say to me?") let's be honest... let's just have SubaruXJuliusXFelis right away They should just be best buddy and it might be tough for three of them to face each other again at throne battle. Is there a connection between Cult's bible with body transfer? I'm afraid that Subaru fell on this mess because he is holding that cursed bible quite simple.. so close yet you blew it up for silly decision it's like when you just beat super hard boss (Hakugei) and messed up at last boss (Betelgeuse) so you lost all your progress and back to save point again |
2016-09-05, 05:22 | Link #54 | |
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It is what it is though. In retrospect, there was one thing in the beginning of this episode that bugs me a bit. I get that there was likely an intention behind the whole scent barrier thing with Ram, and her anger and her attempting to kidnap Subaru to question him or whatever, but doesn't Julius' presence there kind of immediately dispel her understanding of the situation? Subaru would have to have the tongue of a god to convince Julius to go to war with Roswaal and Emilia, and even then it's a bit of a stretch. Unless there were some details left out in those scenes, it seems like a minor plot hole. Not that it really matters, because obviously nothing was going to come of that Ram cliffhangar from the previous episode anyways. Those VAs must have had a lot of fun with this episode. My brain trembles just thinking about it.
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Though you are right in that Ram may not be aware of him or his character. The assertion that Anna's decision would be final on this manner I do take issue with. If she would ask of him things that would contradict his duties and his responsibilities as a knight, he wouldn't be serving her in any capacity to begin with.
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2016-09-05, 07:24 | Link #59 |
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Dat ending though....
Seriously, how much more fucked up does Subaru need to be? I mean, he beat the raid boss (the white whale) and lost at the last second for the (likely) final boss, While he was thought to be dead... that feels like a Dark Souls game. On another note, it was good to see Emilia back, but how did she not saw Subaru there? Could she not have gone to him in the woods with Julius and Felix? Also, Felix/Julius/Subaru bromance ^^
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2016-09-05, 08:04 | Link #60 |
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Damn, I almost teared up when Subaru was begging for his death and then the ED started playing. That moment really hit me hard especially when I saw Felix/Felis and Julius' reactions about the whole situation.
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