2013-08-14, 12:36 | Link #61 |
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^ I'd go for the latter. Machines don't need a sense of freedom, especially when it's false...unless someone created biotech hybrids with the capacity for emotions via hormone flow. Now that's scary, an army of emotionally-starved robots!
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2013-08-14, 14:41 | Link #63 | |
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2016-05-21, 22:13 | Link #66 |
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Bill Gates-approved historian says AI will make
some people totally useless: "Technically Incorrect: Yuval Harari's latest book offers a very dark view of the future, one in which some people will have no reason to get out of bed." See: http://www.cnet.com/news/bill-gates-...tally-useless/ |
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2016-05-22, 04:03 | Link #68 |
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Social reform? If the humans don't have to work, than they have to come up with something else to do. "Better themselves" would get drilled into them from a young age, and they would still find something to do that is work, but it would be more like a hobby than a job.
That would be the Star Trek (The Next Generation/Deep Space Nine/Voyager) timeline version of humanity in the 24th century. Sort of.
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2016-05-22, 05:13 | Link #70 | |
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There's only so much we can do to entertain each other. (Plus, how long till AIs are better at not just performing, but writing songs, movies and the like?) |
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2017-02-11, 19:09 | Link #71 |
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How being replaced by a machine turned this graphic
artist into an activist: "The Twitter feed @HumanVSMachine is a haunting collection of images and videos showing the automation of work around the world. The videos place footage of people doing a job side-by-side with footage of robots doing the same thing. The overall impression is of human obsolescence—at least in certain professions. Philippe Chabot, a French Canadian from Montreal, is the force behind @HumanVSMachine, and he knows something about being replaced. He used to be a graphic artist, first in the video industry and then as a freelancer. At one point, he had plenty of contracts and plenty of work. But increasing competition for fewer assignments made this an unstable profession. Eventually, Chabot was bidding against people who would churn out a logo for $5, and he found that game studios were increasingly outsourcing their artwork. Software and chatbots were created that could automatically design avatars and websites. So Chabot left the field and now works in a kitchen. He’s not the only one of his friends and family whose work has been outsourced, whether to people in other countries or to non-humans." See: https://arstechnica.com/business/201...o-an-activist/ |
2017-02-13, 20:44 | Link #72 |
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The AI Threat Isn’t Skynet. It’s the End of the Middle Class:
"Machines aren’t just taking the place of humans on the assembly line. They’re doing a better job. And all this before the coming wave of AI upends so many other sectors of the economy. “I am less concerned with Terminator scenarios,” MIT economist Andrew McAfee said on the first day at Asilomar. “If current trends continue, people are going to rise up well before the machines do.”" "In the end, no one left Asilomar with a sure way of preventing economic upheaval. “Anyone making confident predictions about anything having to do with the future of artificial intelligence is either kidding you or kidding themselves,” McAfee says. " See: https://www.wired.com/2017/02/ai-thr...-middle-class/ |
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The issue with Robots, is because of Capitalism. Robots are not the problem, robots are the result of Capitalism's unrelenting desire for efficiency.
In Capitalism the goal is to do as much as possible with as few people as possible. But the flaw is that Capitalism doesn't work without consumers. The reality is that rich people don't actually spend that much money. A rich man might have the same income as a factory, but that same man doesn't consume as much goods as that factory could produce. Really though, there is already a solution. Robots should be taxed as if they are human slaves. Historically slaves are taxed as a percentage of their market value. If it is how it works for human slaves, it should work for robot slaves too. It is an asset that produces wealth. The taxes is then used to keep the human consumers alive and buying.
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Something in-between where we're given enough bread and circus to not turn society into a post apocalyptic wasteland? |
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2017-02-20, 09:44 | Link #77 |
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It's what society sees (or rather, cares about) when it assess you for "worth" but it shouldn't be what you, yourself see when you decide "does my life have any point" else it truly is sad if that's the standard by which you hold yourself to account
AI making money? More like the AI's owners you mean? And in the end, there will still be people who subscribe to different preferences...otherwise those arguments over tastes in music would long have ceased
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Free Market simply cannot work in a fully automated society, because it all comes down to various humans providing services to each others using money as a more efficient mean for the exchanges. If there's nothing a human can give to another human, then Free Market will simply cease to exist. It's very difficult to understand or imagine a society of that kind for us. But if you think about it, there's a good that is absolutely vital for our survival that we consume constantly and that it needs to be produced and distributed to all of us. This good is processed by an astronomical amount of self-replicating organisms which do not need to be tended nor supervised by humans and that are powered by a completely renewable kind of energy. This good is Oxygen. Maybe one day, everything will be like Oxygen.
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Or maybe there'll still be people wanting to see human made art, just like there are people who want to see bears riding a bicycle. It's not like the bear is good at bicycle riding. But the fact it's a bear doing it makes it special. |
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On the topic of singing, acting, etc: just think Korean pop bands, but with robots. HUNDREDS OF THEM!!!
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