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View Poll Results: Higurashi Episode 16 Rating | |||
Perfect 10 | 25 | 33.78% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 25 | 33.78% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 17 | 22.97% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 5 | 6.76% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 1 | 1.35% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 0 | 0% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 1.35% | |
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2006-07-24, 19:41 | Link #21 |
Dansa med oss
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Near Cincinnati, OH, but actually in Kentucky
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This episode > every other so far. It had lots of Shion, which is pretty much autowin. The bikers' completely unintelligible speech was awesome, as it's something I've always thought about that stereotype in anime I can definitely sympathize with Shion finding Satoko to be excessively whiney, but not really enough to do what she did. And I think I heard poor Shion's heart hit the floor when Satoshi yelled at her One of my favorite things about Higurashi is the sudden psychotic outbursts, so I was loving that. But Shion's still my favorite, despite It's feeling like my idea for Watanagashi-hen is gonna get ripped to shreds though, especially since Shi and Mi switch places so easily. And I just reaffirmed recently that people were putting too much thought into them switching places All in all, if the rest of this arch stays this strong, it'll be the best yet. I have to give this a ten for bursting at the seams with awesome. It's really the best episode yet. |
2006-07-24, 20:50 | Link #22 |
You faked all of it.
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 33
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Wow, that scene at school was intense. I can understand why Shion thought those things during this episode, but seriously
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Shame they didn't change the OP+ED (i was hoping they'd have new animation scenes to match the answer arcs) but it's no big deal. |
2006-07-25, 00:55 | Link #24 |
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I think Shion is horny, and that horniness carried over too far and made Satoko a victim. (Strange seeing the beating scene when Satoko did pretty much the same thing to K1 in episodes 10 and 13).
Is it just me, or does Satoshi sound a lot like Jun from Rozen Maiden?
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2006-07-25, 01:04 | Link #25 | |
Guide my hand...
Join Date: Mar 2006
Age: 40
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Much like LostBlue previously said.., answer Arcs don't give the answers in a literal way.., everyone will still have to think to understand how everything fits together Altough despite crushing alot of theories aswell.., I am becoming extreamly happy on the way that Maekashi-hen started and is developing towards its conclusion.., this specialy because well.., my speculations & theory so far regarding Watanagashi-hen (which I posted in the episode 8 thread) seem MORE and more to be correct Reasons for this are as follows.., and also taking things from this episode... I'd better spoil tag this ^^ Spoiler:
In the end.., I'll say it again.. A Great episode !, to me..., there is no way this anime can do any rong Last edited by Alu; 2006-07-25 at 01:35. |
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2006-07-25, 02:26 | Link #26 | ||
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2006-07-25, 03:04 | Link #28 | ||
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2006-07-25, 03:19 | Link #30 | |
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All that I wrotte then and now about Shion is only regarding most of what happened in Watanagashi-hen; specialy regarding the Shion & Mion's actions actions.., and what lead for those events in Watanagashi-hen to happen. Regarding EVERYTHING else, there are still alot of questions on how & why, and I surely trust many of the answers will be without a doubt non-Shion related; oh and I do want to emphasise "everything" beacause.., it is alot This episode in my eyes just focused in my eyes in delivering some justifications, as to how Shion's development started.., in which then as ended in Watanagashi-hen. Hopefully the next will continue to do as such, but not just that |
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2006-07-25, 10:47 | Link #33 | ||||
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Shion just snap taking out all her frustration that's been building over the weeks onto her. Quote:
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2006-07-25, 11:47 | Link #34 | |
You faked all of it.
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And I think that's what this show is missing. Narraration by the main character, so we know what they're actually thinking instead of just watching their pupils get smaller. |
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2006-07-25, 12:05 | Link #35 | |
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2006-07-25, 17:47 | Link #36 | |
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2006-07-25, 19:14 | Link #37 | ||
湯音カワユス~
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These scenes are quite important because they provide you with critical insights on how the character is feeling at the time. When Shion finally got to see Satoshi again at Hinamizawa's school (after weeks of seperation, like LostBlue said), she was crushed when Satoshi treated her coldly. Shion was crying and begging him to tell her what's going on, but even then, Satoshi completely rejected her. And when Satoko began crying later, that sadness turned into pure anger directed at her. Wouldn't the episode have a much larger impact if it was done that way? Quote:
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2006-07-25, 19:49 | Link #38 |
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Hmm... So Shion has been secretly living around Hinamizawa pretending to be Shion when she goes out. In chapter 2, it seems everyone knows Shion. At least we see that Takano, Oishi, and others know Shion. But why is it that Rena never knew her? When K1 mentions Shion, Rena said she didn't know Mion had a younger sister at all. Mion says that Shion lives in Okinomiya, which is where Oishi is from.
Perhaps the citizens of Hinamizawa don't know about Shion? In episode 16, we see that Shion was 'suppose' to be killed at birth since having twins would be troublesome. Perhaps Shion's birth was kept hidden from the citizens of Hinamizawa, since the Sonozaki family hold such importance there. That could explain why outsiders like Oishi and Tomitake know Shion, and Takano being kind of a snoop and knowing Tomitake might have that kind of information. But it seems Dr. Irie also knows her. She's even the manager of the Hinamizawa baseball team! So probably Shion has officially revealed herself to the public before K1 moved to Hinamizawa. Maybe Rena doesn't know about Shion because she's kind of dumb and maybe mixes Mion and Shion together into 1 person when they are both there. Too bad we never see the other girls talk about Shion or even ever meet her except when they think she's Mion. So perhaps they are also oblivious to Shion's existance. But I guess some of them would know, especially Satako since she would probably act coldly to Mion, unless she knew it was Shion that beat her up. But do we ever really even see Satako talking with Mion alone? |
2006-07-25, 20:43 | Link #39 |
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At this pt in the story almost no one knows who Shion is or that Mion had a twin besides people within the Sonozaki. Rena just moved back into town around the time Satoshi stop coming to the baseball practice. No one including Mion, knew much about Rena at this point. Rika has heard of a Shion, but never met her as Shion is not allowed at the Gosanke meetings. Kimiyoshi-san however has met and loves Shion. That's pretty much the extent of it. Both Shion and Mion lived in Okinomiya with their parents through most of their childhood so it isn't strange that the vast majority of the people in Hinamizawa do not know who Shion is.
Tidbit: Shion's name has meaning just like Mion's (although not as meaningful). Shion was given the character 寺 (Shrine) in her name 詩音. This was to signify that Shion was predetermine to be sent off away from the family. In the old days in Japan, parents did abandon their childern at shrines to be raised away with little to no contact with the family again (overly simplified, I know). Tidbit 2: 詩 (Shi) = Poem 魅 (Mi) = Charm, enchant 音 (On) = Sound |
2006-07-25, 20:43 | Link #40 | ||
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Had she ever met Rena before she was sent to that private school ?, This would have been of course, before Rena had moved out and then moved in again. Thing is according to the TIPS (and despite Keiichi had not asked Rena about it) it only showed us that Rika knew of Shion's existence.., and well.. in Watanagashi-hen when Keiichi first questions Mion about Shion.., Rena seems surprised as if she did not know of her existance aswell. BUT.., Rena did play a Key role in the last episode of Watanagashi-hen.., upon entering the Sonozaki house and sitting down with Keiichi to talk with Mion(Shion).., she Clearly saw that that was in fact Shion and quickly caught her act, specialy from the moment she even says that it isn't necessary for her to show the tattoo; since she knew that her beeing Shion she wouldn't have it. So she rather just letted the story play along, probably to see how far it would go. It feels strange to me that.. if Rena had actualy never met Shion how could she tell ?, Was it all instinct ? Was it aswell the same reason why Shion was afraid to cross path with Rena, only pure and natural instinct ? Quote:
Much like you said.., it would realy provide us with a much bigger in-sight on how Shion's mentality works.., and what where the trigger moments that compeld her actions in the way that they did. Never the less though, if one pays extreamly attention to the details I belive the anime is giving good foundation to lay down good speculations about the possible reasons that made her act as such. Altough.., I now miss not seeing the inner monologues aswell |
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