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Rem kind of willed herself into the wingwoman position because she wants Subaru to be happy over herself but she proved to be a strong partner who can help inspire Subaru in her own right .
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Yep and no need to pay extra money to cast a new VA.
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My theory about Emilia is probably right then, which would mean that Echidna is working for Satella. In the first place, it's odd for a witch to show up when Satella is supposed to have killed them all.
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When Subaru used Return by Death on Petelgeuse in his body, Petelgeuse saw Satella in the shadows. She said he "wasn't the one," likely because he wasn't Subaru.
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2020-06-14, 05:50 | Link #87 | |
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What qualities as a pivotal moment is something (or things) that impacts a character's life so strongly that it continues to influence that character throughout the story. Meeting and becoming involved with Emilia definitely fits becasue it began his raison d'être in time he had become withdrawn (can't say much more with S2 spoilers) and that motivated him to continue living here. He also definitely wasn't the sort of person who was inclined to go out of his way help others like he did in Arc 1 (which is shown in an example with the little girl) prior to this, it was Emilia who brought thta out of him as he hadn't felt that way about anyone before. But was not something that supposed to fix him completely, but be part of a process of growth over the course of the story. My post isn't just my interpretation, its what Subaru actually feels and what he has felt like before coming to this world. Meeting Emilia and attaining the life he has now was a new beginning for him that's why he struggle so hard to keep it while trying to hold down his anxieties of inadequacy. From Zero wasn't really just about refining who he was but reaffirming why he was here, why he cares at all. Like Subaru doesn't just go through one moment of growth he goes through several phases of them that strengthen his connection to this world and characters in it. He thinks back to these moments from time to time the especially in 2nd season when he undergoes a certain event (vol 10). So the beginning is absolute a pivotal moment for him. From Zero doesn't change those feelings he felt then, it just sands away a part of his emotional baggage from his past that inhibited what he wanted to do as each arc has been doing. Its not something that occurred in a vacuum or unrelated to everything that before that nor is it the only thing that had any impact on him. Basically Subaru was already changing before From Zero due his relationships, what that did just pushed those changes further and harder which why his development is good. So this not an "either or" thing here, rather that this something built on over the course of the story that attempts address various parts of his flaws which is why From Zero was just culmination of all the pieces of his development from Arcs 1, 2 & 3 up to that point. Its why Rem presence and words here are important, because she is living proof that his actions made some difference when he was mired in his own self-loathing from all his failures and couldn't see that. However FZ doesn't completely fix him either, like meeting Emilia didn't, it is just one event of several others contributes to improving him as 2nd season will continue to do. Last edited by Applehell; 2020-06-14 at 08:41. |
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Which he will probably need now more then ever.
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Obviously, its the damn White Wings. Even after saving Last Order, Accelerator still found himself tripping and doing bad shit, he was still killing, still maiming, still staining himself with blood. Sure, his reasons were more justifiable but it eventually drove him to go batshit in Russia which required Touma, his ideal hero, to tell him that black/white mentality was bullshit. Of course, From Zero wasn't some reality warping game changer. Subaru was still Subaru, its up to him to fix himself. But what you're failing to understand is that this moment, whose very name has the series's title stamped on it, is obviously more pivotal to Subaru then his simping for Emilia. Whilst the beginning is important as it lays the foundations of everything, the end is the culmination of the beginning and whatever transpired before the end. From Zero was an end, and that is why it will always be more pivotal to Subaru.
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Subaru was also partially inspired into action of saving the kids (and inadvertently Rem) also because Emilia's influence which mentioned in vol 3 of the LN that is without her presence not being there directly. Even if you had say had put Rem in Emilia's place Arc 1 things would not have played out anything like it did and From Zero would have been impossible because the basis for it is gone. Subaru's change didn't occur because Rem existed or purely because she was there. It happened because of everything leading up to it and Rem happening to be right person at the right time (and being one character who is entirely in his court now whom he hadn't burned bridges with), after he emotionally exhausted and his egotrip trip had ended. Any of heroics did in first arcs were always within his means with or without flaws so he didn't revert back to anything, his better side were simply brought out by effects those around had on him. The stuff in his room or much of his previous life has nothing to do with his feelings its never brought up so don't matter. Its as important as him having a PlayStation. Yes he has a type like everyone else, it doesn't invalidate his feelings, means he would like every girl of that type which there at least 3-of this story and they aren't even the only girls Subaru has found attractive. So he likes Emilia purely for herself traits just further that. Quote:
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I have read LN that the anime covered which develed further into Subaru's thoughts. Even then I have no idea why you pretend Arc 1 & 2 were not important for his development when they provided the foundation for not FZ and rest of his relationships and later developments in S2. The anime still gives you enough to infer for that. Like you said, Subaru did not pull an completely 180 from Arc 3, he still generally doing same thing he did before, just without his neurosis screwing it up as had in the last several episodes. Even tho he doesn't feel like worthy of Emilia's affection he wants to follow his heart and rather than make excuses for being around her. As long someone supporting him in that and pick up when he falls he feels he can do so that is basis of his current relationship with Rem. FZ means nothing without anything that came beforehand is just accumulation everything before. So throwing adjectives like profound doesn't mean anything becasue those changes are not independent of his development in FZ and are required for it to exist. Otherwise Rem talking about his past actions that formed Subaru as she knew him wouldn't make any sense. As I said, this not an "either or" thing they are all connected. For that matter only a character can decide what event had impact on his life anyway. Like take Rem for example we know how important Ram and Subaru to her not becasue we interpret that way but becasue we see it through her thoughts and actions. Meeting Emilia had a profound impact enough on him to stay course in the 2nd arc and later forgive Rem for that same reason. If not for Emilia, then Rem's stance on him wouldn't soften and leading later to her giving him a chance to trust him. These things are highlight in the story as important moments of change. Anyway this getting far beyond the topic. My point is that nearly every single relationship is important to Subaru (Emilia & Rem being the biggest) facilitated some changes in him even before From Zero which it could only happen because he earnestly loves Emilia even underneath his pride and self-flagellation. It was catalyst for him as much as it Rem falling for him was. Tappei has never written FZ as his only moment of growth, just another level in his steps to maturing. Arc 1 was about him staring over here. Arc 2 was him becoming aware of the other things around by not taking their for granted. Arc 3, accepting his weakness and not giving up. None of arcs was silver bullet that changed him completely, but process built off each one successively. I agree FZ was one of his most important moments, nobody is saying otherwise. Last edited by Applehell; 2020-06-15 at 03:25. |
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First episode will be an hour long according to some broadcast info that came out today.
We also have a first CM with some new scenes shown: https://twitter.com/TusTusHR/status/1273288285368930305 |
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(I wonder how soon the dub will come out).
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Screenshots and a synopsis for episode 26 (AKA season 2 episodes 1) have been added to the official website. http://re-zero-anime.jp/tv/story/
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