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2021-03-24, 19:47 | Link #602 |
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They teased us with it for several episodes and they never ended up revealing why Echidna used to look different. It was the mystery from this arc I was looking forward to being solved the most. Or at least, thought was going to be solved. I'm curious about Emilia's origins too, and Puck, and plenty of other stuff, but that was always going to be saved for later.
Given what he tells Subaru later, Roswaal clearly doesn't feel sorry about what he did. And if he could, he wouldn't mind harming them again (maybe not Ram) if that served his goals. Yeah, I'm with Petra. There were some nice moments this season, but I'm genuinely convinced you could cut half of its content and not lose anything of importance.
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On the side of series that cut too much, personally I'm happy to see one adaptation story that did not send half its content to the chopping block (*cough* Horimiya)
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2021-03-24, 21:28 | Link #604 |
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The season had a lot of good stuff like Emilia's growth, Beatrice's character arc, Ram vs Roswaal, etc. The main weakness is that it felt too long. Overall another fun season of Re zero, though it could be trimmed a bit.
Tbf he is under that oath, I did notice that the oath only mentions not using the people there at the time, so everyone else is probably still fair game to him.
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2021-03-25, 00:21 | Link #606 |
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So everyone's finally free. I'll admit that I've completely forgotten what the whole purpose of the Sanctuary, the trials, and everyone being trapped so I didn't really feel a great payoff but more relieved that it's finally over. Subaru getting knighted was also pretty cool. It's about time that happened.
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2021-03-25, 03:06 | Link #608 |
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While I liked some episodes, this season annoyed me more then anything. Subaru also mostly got on my nerves. It's kind of funny how the show went out of it's way to scold Subaru for trying to solve everything on his own, yet still has him solve most of the other characters hang ups by giving them a talking to. It's like you know the protagonist doesn't have to be the center of 90% of the other characters lives.
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That's where they find out what kind of place it is, a refuge for mixed blood humans like Emilia who are holding the villagers hostage to lure her into Sanctuary and grant their wish to leave the place because their can't themselves due to barrier itself blocking them. That were the trials of the tomb come as they sole means of lifting liberating it and fixing the crisis. Not to mention its a opportunity for Emilia to improve her image and relationship with the Arlam villagers & even the demi-human resident of the sanctuary for their support in the Royal Selection. Things don't go as planned as it turns out that the trials are of an extremely personal nature pulls out your deepest regrets and trauma that you haven't come to terms with. Worst case of Emilia we find out there is actually issue with her memories preventing her from passing it. Moreover Subaru and co try circumvent the process of freeing the villagers through completing the trails and lifting the barrier they along with everyone in the manor will be killed by assassins hired by Roswaal to force Subaru to return to the Sanctuary via looping. Furthermore if Emilia doesn't pass the trials in 3 days Roswaal will cause a snowstorm to summon the great rabbit who eat everyone there. Learning something of why Roswaal does not want Emilia to succeed in passing the trials and preventing him doing that to get out of this deadlock is main goal of this season and what was established in first half of S2. The second half is going about doing just that. Quote:
Take the change working with who he is trying to protect and letting them protect him too is why he succeeded. It was exactly the advice Satella gave to him episode 13 and what Otto drilled into him episode 14, trust in your friends, they care about and won't reject you even if you can't explain what is troubling you exactly. Seeing you suffering is enough. That stopped him becoming Roswaal 2.0 Ironically this advice also applied Emilia and Garf who tried to carry too much suffered for it. Subaru was the perfect person to called them out of it cause he was doing the exact same things until then so he knew what it felt like. Last edited by Applehell; 2021-03-25 at 20:27. |
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Subaru didn't actually knock the sense into Garfiel, it's more like he knocked Garfiel into the direction of sense. Subaru just brought him down low enough so that he could receive the encouragement (from Ram, BTW) to take the trial again and come to terms with his own fears on his own. Subaru just gave Garfiel a "nudge" so to speak, and Garfiel appreciates him for it. |
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2021-03-26, 09:08 | Link #614 | |
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This is same approach Satella, Otto & even Rem took with him. he couldn't have gotten this far without that support, yet wouldn't say his world started revolving them. In fact there is not a single he didn't accomplished without help form others, like heck Ram even helping them at all was thanks to Otto convincing her there was opportunity to turn things around. His talk with Emilia could not have occur had not Otto & Ram been fighting off Garf. There were a ton of moving parts that brought this resolution at end of S2 both with and without Subaru. But really in end it cascade of events starting with Otto & Subaru working together not Subaru himself doing everything. Roswaal bringing Beatrice out of library would completely go against his philosophy and his mindset in adhere to wit of the gospel. Worse even if he tried he tell her what she wanted to hear not what she should hear. |
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2021-03-26, 11:48 | Link #618 |
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Nah.
He only had intentions to survive until era Subaru arrived. He didn't even register Ram as potential marriage interest was shocked that she loved him. I think even if they had kids he probably wouldn't continue as Subaru and Emilia are only ones who can help achieve his goal of revive Echidna here and now. I forget to mention that he used his grandkids of each Mathers generation not direct spouses as form the Roswaal B Mathers. |
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2021-03-26, 19:44 | Link #620 | |
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Even if he achieves his goal, why would he stop body-hopping? I'm pretty sure he'd want to stay by Echidna's side for eternity. I'm not so sure she would actually allow it though. This is a woman who tricked her "daughter" into waiting all alone for a person who doesn't exist. I doubt she gives a shit about Roswaal, or anyone else besides herself for that matter.
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