2023-08-11, 10:51 | Link #1021 | |
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So what do you actually want him to be with all the political power he's got? Just continue being a Dxd/ ExE member? Why is it hard for him to develop him more all these years reading back on Shin 4 and Shin in general it gets worst and worst for this dude's character development, why bring politics into the story but don't add the Mc into it Last edited by Dareal_truth; 2023-08-11 at 17:42. |
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2023-08-11, 18:32 | Link #1022 | |
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As a Maou, his focus would pretty much be limited to the Underworld and it's concern which seems very lifted for someone of Issei's standing across all factions and also the various races and factions his future wives represent. Just seems way too limiting and restrictive like most positions of authority and power are. And him being any Maou except Lucifer be pointless as he would be somewhat under Lucifer if he became any Maou other than that. I would prefer they create a new Maou which would be the 8th named Satan but it wouldn't be a Maou position but rather an honorary title bestowed on one devil whose actions and deeds have far surpasses any other devils and would be considered a devil to surpass all devils. Plus I would prefer him to get something that Vali wouldn't get also. Because nothing against Vali but he's just along for the ride and hasn't earned what Issei has. 'Satan' could be seen as the unofficial 8th Maou and could easily have influence that matches of even surpasses them. |
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2023-08-11, 23:56 | Link #1023 | |
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Even if he does ExE, in the end he'd still be working under higher ups, while as a Maou he'll have more restrictions but his ability to create lasting change beyond beating people up will increase. The funny thing is that it's exactly because Issei is so famous everywhere that they have to make him a Maou. It's just like Zeoticus said happened to Sirzechs; there's simply no other post that would suit him.
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2023-08-14, 17:58 | Link #1024 | |
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The problem with Issei is that he has a very thin character and really no background to speak of. He has no unique childhood, no unique circumstances of birth, etc. His main MO was him being a pervert who loves breast who wanted a harem. Now the whole thing with him being lost in the wilderness after achieving his goal could easily make a good plot point and a good transformation for Issei's character if Ishibumi could just write beyond the volume he's writing at the time and actually followed up on a lot of the plot points he introduced rather than just having them be relevant for a volume or two then forgetting completely about them. Really DxD is one of those series that has a lot of potential but the writer just isn't good enough. Very few writers could handle a series with such a big world and so many plots. Ishibuni's not a bad writer as we've seen with Slash Dog which is way better done than DxD because it has a very limited world and the focus is very clear in the series and Ishibumi is playing to his strengths in that series especially as a former horror writer. |
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2023-08-15, 15:02 | Link #1025 | |
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So what's the main focus difference with SD and dxd? tbh he doesn't really need a dept background to grow as a character he just lacks execution. He has a Longinus that’s tied to the supernatural world at large he has the rivals but ish doesn't use them right he the potential folis but it's never set up correctly About SD I know it has the harem subplot but what's the difference between how it's set up compared to Dxd? Anyway back to something more mundane how would you want next vol to go? |
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2023-08-15, 18:24 | Link #1026 | |
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When Ishibumi decided to make the series way more serious starting I'ma the fourth arc, he took away the main thing that made Issue unique SMH the series interesting which was Issei powering up through breasts. While still wanting to keep the series comedic and light-hearted but to be honest it just fell flat. And once Issei became so overpowered he really didn't need them anymore and the series lacked any real stakes starting in Shin, the series just lost what originally made it special and it was only left with its flaws which were there since the beginning but are even more obvious now because of the lack of focus in the series now. I actually liked Volume 24 besides the Rias vs Vali Rating Game because it was a return back to what originally made the volume so good with a legitimate strong opponent and some real actual stakes and Issei being the actual underdog. And getting a ridiculous power-up at the last second through the power of breasts allowing him to defeat Thanatos. But then again I have a bit of a bias towards badass scythe wielders. Issei isn't really the only character that has remained mostly static and unchanging. Pretty much all the main cast has. Sure they've gotten stronger and matured a bit but that just naturally comes with the territory. Almost none of their interactions have changed with each other besides how some of the girls address Issei now. Issei is still the same reactive protagonist who takes no initiatives with his harem despite proposing to almost all of them. Almost everyone is just a caricature of their former selfs and the only thing about them we can look forward to is their next power-up. |
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2023-08-15, 18:45 | Link #1027 | |
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Aight you said you’re diligence pretty sure anything else I say would generate the same response dam Dxd is a dead community but again back to what I said he lacked the execution stem from the lack of world building/ foli and the whole tit thing ruined it all because it’s tied to ExE which is ish obsession. He had other ideas such as Indra war and Malebranche that would’ve spark character development for a lot of folks but can’t blame the guy lack of passion + sickness comes with spiral creativity decline he said this many times on his blog it’s bound to ruined the story moving forward and wasted SS I genuinely believe Dxd could’ve been the greatest thing ever made, maybe upcoming vol other characters would have new goals same thing with issei. He lacked true defeats so who knows what will happen knowing Dxd going downhill. Anyways what you’ll like to see from shin 5? Last edited by Dareal_truth; 2023-08-15 at 20:59. |
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2023-08-16, 04:23 | Link #1028 | ||
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The author of story Izumi Matsumoto instead of focusing more on the development of the main character Kasuga Kyousuke has wasted the story by introducing some ugly secondary characters that were used just creating ridiculous situations for slow down the plot. Spoiler for spoiler:
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I would like a ecchi-harem scene at the beginning in which Ravel start to show more desire to be involved and even a little frustration. I would like maybe see Issei and his parents be invited by Ravel's parents for a dinner in their castle so that the two families get to know each other well before a possible wedding between Issei and Ravel. In this way we could finally see Issei and Lord Phenex interacting between them and maybe the other unnamed yet brother of Ravel would be introduced. I would like see the all of 3 big brothers of Ravel discussing with Issei about the match he would have with Diehauser cause the psychological weight that could have on Ravel given what happened with Diehauser in the past. |
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2023-08-16, 09:11 | Link #1029 |
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It's impossible to handle a setting as expansive as DxD without several spinoffs. And even settings like Fate/Nasuverse with many different writers and expansive worldview still has loose plotlines and disgruntled fans as a result. It's not easy as it might seem from our POV as readers.
Perhaps Ishibumi should just have focused on the Underworld with Issei's story, Five Principal Clans with Slash Dog, then separate spinoffs for Heaven/Vatican and other factions. Right now, the novel feels congested but introducing ExE and FxF was still a mistake on Ishibumi's part imo. |
2023-12-04, 09:26 | Link #1036 |
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It wouldn't be better that we talk about this Spin-Off in the Discussion of Others Topics's thread or that it got a discussion thread completely dedicated to it?
I have make the Discussion Thread for Junior Highschool DXD if someone is interested: https://forums.animesuki.com/showthread.php?t=159717 For remain more in the Topic of this thread what are your ideas about the Malebranche? You think that Ishibumi would allow to the each of the Malebranche have a particular personality and unique abilities or they wouldn't be so much differents from each other? Last edited by Hyodou True DXD; 2023-12-05 at 05:29. |
2024-05-19, 21:52 | Link #1037 | |
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Personally I'd like to see Riser's Peerage again just for arguments sake, especially Isebela who'll have all the bragging rights and Mira whose a fan of Isssi's. Would also be nice to meet the unknown Phenex grandchild/grandchildren. It's possible if there is a female there they could set up another engagement. Another angle is to look at is any hidden power of thar Ravel can tap into like a True Phoenix form or something. Ruval may be the key since he is in the Top 10 for RG and that takes immense skill. Issei and Ravel also need to further their relationship because despite being one of the earliest girls and falling for him quickly, Ravel has not been honest with her feelings for him and is always hiding behind the Manger or servant card. Her problem is like Riser she is quite prideful. She hasn't even kissed Issei or said she loved him, which even Kuroka and Rossweisse have done and when you compare their relationships with Issei, it's a little sad. As seen in V23, Issei and Ravel have a deep bond, but it just feels like something is missing. Ravel may also acquire a few servants purely to help with her administrative work, because too many servants like Xenovia would be overwhelming for her. Also I can't se Ravel getting frustrated with Issei like Rias did because she knows him well, the problem isn't just him, it's Ravels inability to be honest regarding her feelings. In V23 she said her body and mind belong to him and she'd satisfy his desires, that sounds very much like how Riser viewed his Peerage before Issei defeated him. So any friction in their relationship would be due to mutual grounds, like with Rias sure Issei hurt her with the title but she never considered his feelings of insecurity due to his past with Raynare. Regarding the general fallout from Shin 4, Bennia has to move in with Issei given her new position as his Knight. I'm curious about the dynamics she'll have with other members. |
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2024-05-19, 22:30 | Link #1038 |
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I had another thought.
Pertaining to Shin 6 would should be Elmenhilde focused there could be some interesting angles to tackle. First we may finally meet her family and see if they are stuck up like she was or if they are like the Phenex Clan with her being the problem child. Also I think it'd be interesting if it turns out Queen Carmilla sent her to join Issei knowing her feelings for him and hoping to leverage that to strengthen her faction by getting Isseis child, not unlike in Kyoto with their HD Descendant Plan. It would add some drama to the angle. Alternatively we could get a Tepes Faction member who wants the same, but would have to be from House Manther given the checkered pasts of Houses Vladi and Tepes. Maybe they want Isseis genes on their side as well so they sent a new female vampire as competition for Elmenhilde. Also regarding Elmenhildes power and contribution. She may get the ability to control shadow dragons or mist dragons due to drinking Isseis blood. Or she may continue to leverage her Gundam passion into weapons to compensate for her lack of extraordinary abilities as a Vampire. |
2024-05-20, 01:22 | Link #1040 | |
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She's just very slow compared to others who are less prideful and more honest with their feelings. Ravels biggest weakness is her pride which she hasn't been able to fully shake. She knows how she really feels for him but just can't express it in the right way. So she hides behind the manager title which is funny and a little sad. |
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