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Perfect 10 | 10 | 21.28% | |
9 out of 10 : Excellent | 17 | 36.17% | |
8 out of 10 : Very Good | 17 | 36.17% | |
7 out of 10 : Good | 1 | 2.13% | |
6 out of 10 : Average | 0 | 0% | |
5 out of 10 : Below Average | 0 | 0% | |
4 out of 10 : Poor | 1 | 2.13% | |
3 out of 10 : Bad | 0 | 0% | |
2 out of 10 : Very Bad | 0 | 0% | |
1 out of 10 : Painful | 1 | 2.13% | |
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2016-07-24, 14:11 | Link #21 | |
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------------- About episode 17, holy shit this was amazing. Subaru literally is not even close to what he was at the beginning of the series, we can see how all of the things that happened to him and the people close to him has actual impact, there is development and progression on Subaru as a character and this is something you wont see pretty often. The white whale and Betelgeuse, god this is painful, how Subaru is gonna get away from this without anyone by his side and especially considering Emilia can't help him. At least we saw Puck being badass this episode and finally became part of this fight but I guess is only for now since Subaru needs to die again to reset and get Rem back.. right...RIGHT? Who is Rem? this literally killed me. |
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2016-07-24, 14:23 | Link #22 |
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- That's surprising, I thought he'd be killed by the whale but he got all the way to the manision
- Rem constantly sacrificing herself for Subaru is getting old. Rather than being selfless, I'm starting to see it as something she's doing for her own sense of self-satisfaction. - It's going to be pretty awkward between Subaru and Otto next they meet. - I was shocked at how calm Ram was, initially. Then it makes sense. It's really cruel. - I actually took my headphones off when Subaru kept telling Emilia to just do as she said. That was pretty unpleasant. - The scene Subaru/Emilia did seem like a repeat of the previous one but that isn't the case. "Why are you crying and seem to be in such pain" as Emilia said - Oh yeah, Roswaal isn't in the mansion, I was thinking he'd at least confront Subaru - It seems like Subaru did actually become friends with Beatrice. On the other hand, she doesn't care about Emila in any way whatsoever. It makes sense but it was kind of jarring. - Killing Emilia instead of killing Subaru is probably just a way to stop Subaru from using it to commit suicide. The show seems to be entirely against the "easy route" of Subaru killing himself when things don't go his way - Subaru still isn't dead I was thinking that each of Subaru's deaths was getting worse and worse but this time won't be too bad. He's probably just going to be killed by Puck. Not good but certainly better than being tortured. If the next episode title is "From Zero" then I suppose this is where Subaru is going to start turning things around. Which will certainly be nice. No idea what exactly he's going to do that, though. And just to cheer myself up. From a happier episode... |
2016-07-24, 14:30 | Link #24 |
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Did anyone think he was in an illusion brought about by the White Whale? I mean, how could EVERYONE forget about Rem aside from Subaru?
GOD, I hope so =01. Seeing him anxiously/furiously prattle about other people being useless or uncooperative even though he has zero capabilities himself is starting to get REALLY annoying =02. Usually it doesn't go for too long before he starts getting a handle on the situation, so it hasn't been a bother, but seeing it week after week after week, its kinda getting on my nerves.
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2016-07-24, 14:34 | Link #25 | |
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2016-07-24, 14:35 | Link #26 |
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Wow to lose the one you love and the one loves you in one day regardless of what you did must beyond horrible. In someways far worse than ep 15 due how much more personal it is for Subaru.
Oh and I think it should be pretty obivious Otto was killed by Witch Cult member, if look closely at the swords. Going on that train of thought if the White Whale erases victims how is previous gen's Sword Saint still remembered? Maybe they have records his or her name? |
2016-07-24, 14:50 | Link #29 |
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Did you not watch the episode?
It's pretty obvious that everyone who die by the White Whale get forgotten, as was proven already in the previous episode when one of the riders disappeared and Otto immediately commented that no one was riding there to begin with. Dunno how White Whale can make everything related to that person disappear as well like items and whatnot but lets call it plot I suppose. To that end the Sword Saint should not be remembered even if there were records of him because those records should not exist if he was consumed by White Whale. But perhaps that is the key? The person must be '' eaten '' by the whale? Whereas if the Sword Saint just got killed in action but his body was left behind he was thus not forgotten. (Who is this Sword Saint anyway? When Otto mentioned him it seemed like Subaru knew who they were talking about but how could he? I don't think it's been ever mentioned before?)
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2016-07-24, 14:50 | Link #30 | |
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2016-07-24, 14:53 | Link #31 | |
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Good episode, the despair levels were off the chart!
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2016-07-24, 14:58 | Link #32 |
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So main char continue to go full retard.
I keep hoping he would be any smarter than the previous arc but nope. He goes around crying about impossible thing in a magical world which his power is revive after dying. He don't even fcking try to ask "what is the white whale and its power" like in ep 9. Heck in that ep he knew how to talk to Ram-Rem into believing him without saying anything. |
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2016-07-24, 15:16 | Link #34 |
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The real question is....Why doesn't Suburu end up forgetting the people the whale consumed like everyone else?
Maybe the whale knew of his ability somehow and didn't eat him. The whole erasing him from time could have conflicted with his return by death ability and create a paradox maybe? So the whale decided it was bad idea to try and consume him. That or he gets energy from eating someone's "existance" and somehow the whale sensed he could not erase Suburu's existence because of his return by death ability, so he left him be. (Whale probably didn't know he had return by death specifically, only that eating him would not have benefited him at all. He doesn't necessarily have to know why. :P )
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2016-07-24, 15:23 | Link #38 | |
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The previous Sword Saint was killed by the whale. Or so it is told. As for you not knowing the phrase... crunchyroll poorly chose the translation of "Master Swordsman" instead of Sword Saint, despite the fact the word being a normal existing title in our world.
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2016-07-24, 15:24 | Link #39 |
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We can assume that since Reinhard got the title of Sword Saint, Subaru got a rough idea of what kind of powers/skills a knight would have with that kind of title.
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2016-07-24, 15:25 | Link #40 |
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Also, Subaru couldn't see the hands from the crazy villain guy who's name I will never be able to spell correctly to even attempt in the episode where he kills Rem. But now he can see the hands...
So he has a lingering ability from accidentally killing Emilia after the what I assume to be the Witches "unseen" hands coming out and seemingly killing Emilia. Previous "attempts" of him trying to tell others of his ability weren't as forceful, so the Witch didn't manifest quite as dramatically as she did this time. This further shrouds the Witch's intent as well since if Emilia was important to the Witch in some way, she wouldn't have killed Emilia. But maybe the Witch can't kill Subaru the same way the other characters can (perhaps if the Witch kills him, it's permanent and she still needs him alive). So instead she kills Emilia knowing it will force Saburu to kill himself to reset things again. I would bet though if the Witch killed him instead, it would have been permanent and the the Witch must have known by know that the cult was coming to kill Emilia. That's my rough idea on the situation as I believe it to be thus far.
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