2006-08-05, 16:09 | Link #22 |
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Hmm... License a show just as the fans are really into in in the fansub community... not sure if ADV did this on purpose, but if they did, they are quite smart for doing so. I will assume that the majority of people don't know how to get fansubs outside of Animesuki, and since the majority of fansubbers will stop fansubbing licensed shows, it would mean that the only way to satisfy the Uta-hunger is to buy the dvd from ADV. Using the fansub community to boost commerical sales, like I said, smart.
If I am not mistaking, Utawarerumono could also mean "not quite human" which is the premise of the show. Changing it... Not sure if I am all that pleased with that. |
2006-08-05, 17:25 | Link #23 |
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As I said in the other thread,
there is no love in the world. You are all dead to me!!!! *points at no one in particular* EDIT: Now what would really shock me is if they licensed Higurashi. That would make my day.
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2006-08-05, 17:30 | Link #24 | ||
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Now that Utawarerumono, the show that pulled me back into anime again, is licensed, I'm expecting a similar happening. Quote:
A couple questions for you avid anime fans: up until this point, wasn't Utawarerumono licensed in Japan to begin with? There must've been a company in Japan that held absolute copyright of the material. What makes fansubs any more illegal now than they were before? Also, does this mean Utawarerumono is no longer airing in Japan? Is it technically US material now? Or am I getting that point wrong? Anyone with an ounce of Japanese knowledge knows that Utawarerumono isn't a hard phrase to pronounce. 'Mono' means thing or one. 'Utau' is the verb meaning to sing. Adjust the verb a little and you get 'Utawareru'. Not hard at all. I would be content with the direct translation, "the one being sung", but that's their decision now. <sigh> |
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2006-08-05, 17:42 | Link #25 | |||
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What they don't have is the structures (money, contacts, infrastructure, people, etc.) needed to translate and distribute the work in other countries... so they allow other people to do it. The license is there to allow another company (that doesn't normally own the copyright) to distribute the show. The license normally applies to a limited region of the world (i.e. the USA), but doesn't have to. There may also be other limitations on what the company can and cannot do with the copyright material... Quote:
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... and before this thread gets off-topic, please try to keep discussion of fansub illegality and morality out of this thread. It is about Utawarerumono being licensed not licenses in general (we have other threads for that hot-topic). |
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2006-08-05, 17:44 | Link #26 |
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Yes, it was licensed by the creators to begin with, and the whole 'legality of fansubs' issue you're mentioning has been discussed to death in a bunch of different forums here. Warrior is singular, so while they're definitely not 'on the dark side' or anything Hakuoro definitely has that side to him in recent episodes. And yeah, it's still being aired in Japan of course, and most likely people will continue to fansub it, we just won't hear about it on this site so it's up to you if you want to hunt them down or not |
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2006-08-05, 18:02 | Link #29 | |
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2006-08-05, 18:16 | Link #30 | |
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In other news, even 2chan seems to be talking about this. Haven't got a clue what they're saying though... probably agree with us. |
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2006-08-05, 18:17 | Link #31 |
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Interesting license. I certainly wasn't expecting this. I actually think in part it's a semi-knee-jerk reaction from ADV getting beaten to the punch on a lot of big action titles recently by Funi and Geneon, particularly FMP:TSR. They probably need another big title with Shadow Warrior Chronicles' (lol) demographic, considering such titles were their bread and butter several years ago, and they arguably had a semi-monopoly on the thing.
But the name change is terrible. I don't think there's any argument there. I will say a name change was necessary, but "Shadow Warrior Chronicles"? Can they think of a more trite name? I agree with most in this thread, "The One Being Sung" would have been a far more fitting name for this.
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2006-08-05, 19:14 | Link #34 |
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Licensed... And I downloaded ep.1 yesterday... I swear... Some will say I do it on purpose but... I don't... I just thought "yeah, it might be time for me to take a look at utawarerumono" and bang... Fjck, I'm in a very bad mood again... Well, I guess there's nothing to do about it. I'm hopeless. *note for today : buy a DVD writer! (I still don't have one, so I throw too many things away, and I don't download batches)... *sighs again...
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2006-08-05, 19:20 | Link #35 | |
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2006-08-05, 19:28 | Link #36 | |
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OK, a little anecdote : I named my HD "Kaonashi" on my OS. Don't know if you remember the "Faceless" in Miyazaki's "Spirited Away". Well, when I bought my computer I really didn't know it could be that full. But now I can tell you it's very close to puking everything it has inside him. That's why I don't (can't) download as much as I want. So I was thinking about raising funds among animesuki fans to get myself a DVD writer. Lol, yeah, I'm very poor. Thanks for the compassionate post anyway. ^^
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2006-08-05, 19:39 | Link #37 | |||||
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You were right about the similar reactions
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2006-08-05, 19:39 | Link #38 |
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Although I find the title Shadow Warrior Chonicles to be run of the mill, at least they didn't use "The One Being Sung", as it would be incorrect.
If they wanted to be literal, Utawarerumono うたわれるもの (謳われるもの者) would become "The Acclaimed/Praised One", which has no connotation to the homonymous utawareru (歌われる/唄われる/詠われる/唱われる) meaning "sing" (in respectful form), which would not make sense when used with mono (者=person/物=thing). I suppose the usage of "sing the praise" or even "unsung one" in the English language are factors contributing to this potential misunderstanding, therefore I'm relieved ADV didn't botch it by naming it that way.
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2006-08-05, 19:48 | Link #39 |
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When I read the title, I thought this is going to be a sequel of Shadow Warrior PC game.
http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/sh...ior/index.html (may contain very violent pictures that can be on par with GTA series) |
2006-08-05, 19:51 | Link #40 |
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The name might suck to hell, but at the end of the day its just the name - we'll still be getting the anime we're watching atm, and are all loving - that in its self is brilliant news.
Still, i'll probably buy the R2's instead. ^^;
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