2008-09-25, 20:05 | Link #61 | |
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How hereditary are Japanese politics? The last three prime ministers, Aso, Fukuda, and Abe, are all grandsons of former prime ministers. Reading through this article, i see many of Aso's cabinet ministers are also related to former prime ministers.
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2008-09-25, 23:10 | Link #62 |
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You *can* reverse unnecessary decline --- but you have to adjust destructive corporate expectations for employees, provide childcare in business districts or at companies, teach males how to stop being obstinate delusional asses like Nakagawa there. Recognize you have conflicting needs (workforce needs, population management needs). Recognize that men should also be involved in family life as rolemodels.
The Scandinavian and Germanic countries seem to have some models that work pretty well.... Nakagawa d'uh?
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2008-09-26, 03:18 | Link #63 | |
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I don't know about Scandinavia but this is not true for Germany. It's certainly much easier for women to enter and stay in the workforce than in Japan. Overall, the social pressure to fit into certain gender role model is lower than even in many Western countries. But all that is true only as long as there are no children. Once there are its still pretty much a done deal that the somebody who has to take care of them is the mother. The population in Germany does shrink and that it doesn't shrink faster than it does is thanks to immigration as everywhere else in the developed word. According to wikipedia Germany has a significantly higher percentage of immigrants (12.31) than France (10.18) or the UK (8.982) and slightly less than the US (12.81). Japan has 1.599 percent. So if Japan is against immigration then the only working model (high number of births) I'm aware of is France which is an often cited example here. But this is due to the fact that the state is much more involved in taking care of the children and not so much the father. But that might be an even bigger nightmare to conservatives in Japan. It certainly is here.
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2008-09-26, 12:27 | Link #64 |
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Ah, I was under the impresson that Germany had a fairly advanced childcare system. My bad. The Danes, Norwegians, and Swedes seem to have some pretty sophisticated childcare systems in place as well as very flexible employment principles that recognize the importance of childcare to the community.
Protecting a culture is a tricky thing without stagnating it. ... but Japan is far beyond the "we have less kids because there's other things to do" with their plummeting marriage (or even relationship) rate. They have basic attitudinal issues to fix.
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2008-09-27, 13:44 | Link #65 |
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JAPAN HAS IMMIGRATION?!?!!
No seriously I read in the Washington Post last year that the govt was experimenting with immigration of people from around the japanese diasaopra, particularly from South America. However, those people are primarily Peruvian or Brazillian in culture and so CULTURE CLASH ENSUES. I don't want to make the gov't sound racist but isn't it a bit much to expect Japan doing full scale immigration like the west anytime soon? |
2008-09-27, 14:38 | Link #66 |
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Aso's view of Japan as "one country, one race, one culture, one civilization" (despite its many problems) is, nevertheless, characteristic of conservative Japanese thinking, which is a dominant force in Japanese politics. So in that respect, I doubt immigration will open up very much. Indeed, you will notice that Japan is experimenting with immigration from people of Japanese racial descent, which is something akin to having your cake and eating it too. Obviously a healthy dose of immigration is necessary to keep afloat its aging society, but the Japanese are still too race- and culture-conscious to consider Western-style citizenship rules for people not of Japanese descent.
Which is just as well, in some respects, because from what I've read of discrimination in Japanese society there is still a great deal of xenophobia. In that respect, a large influx of immigrants will probably stir up the pot even more. Consequently, I don't think Japan will ever become as cosmopolitan as the West (barring some major changes in political and social culture). It's not that kind of country. |
2008-09-27, 16:15 | Link #67 |
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They are pretty much doomed then.By 2050, the japanese population will be around 90 millions, in 2100 around 40 millions.
I have no evidence, but I find really hard to believe that a human society can survive without damage what can only be called a demographic collapse.Japan like a lot of southern and eastern european countries is simply dying.
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2008-09-27, 19:21 | Link #68 | |
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2008-09-27, 20:05 | Link #69 |
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The concern is over how much of the population is of which age group ... not necessarily the total number of everyone.
You need a little sine wave of births to provide an overall stability in the prime working healthy age groups (say 20-65yrs). Right now, the birth rate suggests a population crash with too many elderly and not enough taxpayers.
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2008-09-27, 23:17 | Link #70 |
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Nakayama to quit Cabinet after gaffes
Aso's staff seems prone to "gaffes" (i.e. saying what they really think and then getting thumped on the head for it).
One resignation ..... actually surprised Minister Nakagawa hasn't already "gaffed" himself to pasture.... http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-b...0080928a1.html
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2008-09-29, 13:33 | Link #71 | |
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@Decagon, here is the source:http://www.stat.go.jp/English/data/handbook/c02cont.htm .If you don't want to hunt for it, just go on the wikipedia page for Japan.Japan fertility(1.29) rate is far below the replacement threshold(2.1).Of course, they are only projections.We don't know what will happen in the future, trends can change very quickly but at least it tells us that something will have to change. Apparently, Aso decided to please some political allies since he doesn't expect the governement to last.Some believes that a general election is very likely before the end of the year.We will see...
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2009-02-18, 01:24 | Link #73 |
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Japanese finance minister at G7(8?) news conference in Rome.
Asou should stop putting off the inevitable and call elections now. Or are these unelected prime ministers obsessed with staying in office for exactly one year? Thankfully Koizumi is publicly criticizing Asou, but it seems the reformists in both the LDP and DPJ won't be gaining much power anytime soon. |
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It would be great if Koizumi comes back to lead but he has already declared his retirement a few months ago, so it won't be possible under the LDP banner. More over, I don't think Koizumi like the idea of dividing the LDP up and form his own new party with departing LDP members. Even if he plans on doing it, there won't be enough time. The economy is only going to worsen with the Aso Cabinet at helm for the time remaining. Will Koizumi manage to form a new party under his own leadership within a mere few months? Not just, his new party must also have a high approval rate by formulating good economic recovery plans and also various political policies. Thus, I think the Democratic Party of Japan will definitely win the next general election.
--- That was the G-7 meeting! (G-8 includes Russia.) Last edited by Shadow Kira01; 2009-02-18 at 20:05. Reason: updated |
2009-02-18, 23:32 | Link #76 |
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Isn't this the same fellow the reporter from the Economist talked about in the item you cited earlier? The one who was in "erratic form" and had his shirt open to the waist when he was scheduled to be interviewed by one of the most influential journalistic organisations in the world? In retrospect, one has to imagine that "erratic" was being used rather euphemistically, don't you think?
For those of you living in Japan, has this story had any political ramifications yet? I saw it first on the BBC World News, which almost guarantees it was shown throughout most of the world. I know that if that had been Treasury Secretary Geithner, it wouldn't take long for this story to be ratcheted up to the level of a "-gate" in the American media.* It certainly would be exploited by right-wing radio talk-show hosts just itching to find anything to puncture Obama's Shield of Goodness (+4 Def; +7 MagDef). __________ *In 1972, the Nixon Administration arranged for a group of ex-CIA operatives and Cuban emigres to bug the Democratic National Committee headquarters in the Watergate hotel. What became known as simply "Watergate" ushered in decades of later "-gates." .
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2009-02-19, 01:39 | Link #77 |
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If I'm not mistaken the finance minister resigned... but Aso and his cabinet are already at... 9% approval? The public is really quite disgusted with them, even Koizumi in retirement is rolling his eyes at them. But.... eh, 'shoganai'... its the bureaucracy that runs things there and they have incredible resistance and resilience in avoiding change that might disturb their 'wa'.
I think his only success is the glorious cabinet member in charge of repopulating Japan who is so engaged she got pregnant herself They should make HER prime minister.
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Look at his boss the PM. Taro Aso. Need I say more? |
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