2014-04-12, 16:26 | Link #81 |
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don`t think that's accurate strategic magicians are those who can use spells that have more power then a strategic nuclear warhead.Like tatsuya MB that created a 20 megaton explosion.
Rank a mages are not tactical, one can use healing magic or support magic and still be a A-rang magician tactical implies combat magic. A rank magician in terms of combat strength is some what equal to a battalion of soldiers and of a strategic mage is greater then strategic nuclear warhead(which is a lot) besides strategic magicians are a rank themself including tatsuya while using his own magic. |
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2014-04-12, 17:20 | Link #84 |
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If Lu Gonghu is an s-class, it makes me wonder what level Tatsuya's friends are and how far ahead of the curve Miyuki and Lina are. If the whole 10 master clans are all S-class, that would be pretty scary. Though i'm not sure if we're talking about magic power or combat ability in this(otherwise i would include Tatsuya with Miyuki + lina but he is only a c-rank magician ).
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It only said that it was a mental activity and not restricted to a specific portion of the brain. For some reason, I can't seem to find that quote. I ran a search using "brain" on every volume, but nothing came up. We do not know for a fact that the pushion information body is capable of casting magic without a physical body. We know that it is related to magic. We know that parasites can use magic, but they are pushion information bodies that hypothetically formed from pushion waves given off by people and lied dormant until the spill of energy from the black hole experiment activated them, which gave them the ability to interact in the physical world. So they were only able to use magic after the energy spill. Besides, his Regrowth was proven to not affect the soul, or in this case the pushion information body. If he couldn't save Honami when she was still alive and had a body, there's no guarantee that he could revive himself without one. In other words, there is something like a spirit, not necessarily the brain, that ties the body and soul together. Honami's case proved that Regrowth did not apply to the spirit. If you're referring to the degree of change, you're talking about interference strength. It determines whether a magician can heat an object to a 100 degrees or a 1000 degrees. |
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"Phenomena Rewriting Ability" is probably what you mean. "Invocation Speed" - Go figure... "Interference strength" - phenomena rewriting priority? "Multi-Variable Quantitative Processing Speed" - Speed at which one simultaneously processes multiple variables? "Calculation Scale" - Calculating how many processes in order to achieve a magic? "Scale of Magic Sequence" - How many variables one can process in a single cast? Quote:
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Fixed that for you. Also no "Taizan Fukun" for Tatsuya, though I'm pretty sure that Mikihiko would know more about it than I do... Wonder If they have any Tsuchimikados in Mahouka... Index has a blond one... If anything it would be interesting to see a rival to the Yoshida house... A philosophical difference between "Ancient Magic bloodlines" based around the similar magic, maybe? Kidnap Mizuki Arc anyone?
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The fact that its non systematic, or that Elemental sight is also required, or that other magicians may also be able to use the high level counter magic or that Miyuki has only ever seen him use Gram Dispersion and was unaware of his innate ability for Decomposition, does not mean it is not part of his Decomposition magic. Tatsuya said it is, so its means people never knew a combination of Elemental sight and innate talent for decomposition magic would allow for practical use of Gram Dispersion. Quote:
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Its said in the novel that even normal magicians that can use systematic magic to their liking also have higher affinity to a specific system like miyuki she can use Movement and Oscillation/Vibration magic(freezing and movement speed) to a higher degree(a rank spells) but we haven`t seen her or even stated somewhere that she can use the other 3 systems to the same extent and its the same for the rest of the magicians they excel in a single magic system and they build their spells around that. Decomposition magic is considered the most difficult magic in existence, if the magic community knew that he had the ability to use decomposition magic to the extent of subatomic level i`m pretty sure he won`t be labeled c-rank anymore. As for Gram Dispersion on itself its a non-systematic magic and its not related to his decomposition magic, as is said in the novel that other powerful magicians were able to use that and they didn't have decomposition. The confusion about this spell came from the explanation in the novel where it says "This magic takes a Magic Sequence and decomposes it into a group of Psion particles without a meaningful structure" the word decompose led to that belief, the word mean it breaks down the magic sequence back into the psion that it came from, if this was a decomposition spell the spell would've been completely erased at the eidos level. There is also a possibility that tatsuya gram dispersion to be a variant of the original and instead of breaking down the spell to the psion level he actually incorporates decomposition magic in it, to completely erase the spell. Until stated otherwise the first explanation still stands. All we know its that tatsuya Gram Dispersion is extremely powerful being able to destroy to full power a rank spells at once(when he stoped lina vs miyuki battle and the two were stuned). Also on another note didn't saw this mention around, but tatsuya also have are-of-effect decomposition magic that acts like a Zone Interference but a lot more powerful(as seen in his fight with lina spells from different direction had no effect whatsoever or when he used gram dispersion in lina/miyuki fight the effects of the spells didn't affect him a bit even without any sort of defensive spells active). Off topic : i think the way author explains magic power in the novel is a little off, when i say magic power i think at spell strength and at the spell effects and to put it in a video game term how much damage it does, in the novel magic power sounds more like skill then actual power in the true sense of the word. As an example let take a lighting bold spell...... it has scale magic sequences(magic tolerance), it has interference strength(strength of rewriting Eidos) and has casting speed(speed of magic design). But to create a lighting spell u have a set number of magic sequences(a stated that spells have a set number of steps to obtain the desired effect) , you have a set number of interference strength i mean by set number that a macigian needs to change the eidos a certain level to create the lighting effect if the change is to small or to big it wont be a lighting.What i wonder by this is what variable in this changes the power output of the spell meaning whats variable its different between a lighting that stuns a human and one that completely carbonizes the human. Last edited by SoboSobo; 2014-04-13 at 04:43. |
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i agree with kazakiri about inteference strengh being about priority rather than the force of the spell sorry for the bad gramar i am a little haste today Last edited by Lazy cat; 2014-04-13 at 09:55. |
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But still profession-wise, Tatsuya's sort of like a repair man who is very good at repairing military equipment or emergency hospital equipment, but slow and poor at repairing the more common consumer equipment. He is still highly sought for his talent, but sub par with the more common easy and more common complex stuff. Spoiler for A different and longer technician comparison:
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I already said this during my discussion with Riddam but Miyuki is not at the highest level at everything. Even by analyzing this quote words by words, we know that BS magicians can't do everything so Miyuki is not better than anyone at everything.
She is unbeatable at: freezing magic and spells with large radius. These 2 are her specialty she may be good in other categories but she is not the best. For example her activation speed is not comparable to Lina and she can't deal with complex magic as much as Honoka. Tatsuya's only AOE decomposition spell is Material Burst. He can only snipe a lot of person simultaneously with bullets and learnt Far Strike, another Counter Magic. Remember that he is BS. |
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Tatsuya actually indicates he can use his Decomposition magic in some sort of area defensive effect in v12c1. |
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I meant human pushion information bodies. Exactly. Broken off portions. Not a whole pushion informatin body. My point is that these pushion information bodies were unable to interact with the physical world, much less cast magic, until the black hole experiment activated them. I am referring specifically to Tatsuya resurrecting himself if his head ever gets vaporized. In the case of Honami, there is no doubt Tatsuya's Regrowth fixed her body. Yet she died anyways. I don't believe for a second that her soul, or pushion information body, was actually deteriorating in any way. So I believe that the problem lied with a third element, the spirit. I'm borrowing this term from FMA where it is believed that there is something that ties the soul to the body. Material Burst isn't AOE. It's just a single target spell in which the effect covers a large radius, but Tatsuya did say he was capable of casting Mist Dispersal as an AOE. |
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But my question is why bring up Honami when she never received any physical damage, and was already considered dead despite still being conscious and talking. The topic was about brain damage and not someone who was stated as already dying from overusing their magic. Overall I believe that the question of whether Tatsuya can revive or not from brain damage depends on how vital the brain is to life and if any delay occurs before the state of death, and if auto restore would work in time if any such possibility existed. The answer could be a definite no, death occurs instantly. But with the novel's theories that the human mind/spirit exists in an alternate dimension, and that those human minds can cross dimensions and turn into magic wielding spirit-human parasites, makes me still wonder at such an absurd possibility of revival. |
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