2018-09-04, 11:51 | Link #102 |
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No they didn't. Heracles who inherited the spirit of Heracles and Perseus who is either the descendant or inherited the spirit of Perseus appeared.
For all we know, the original Heracles and original Perseus could have just been regular humans and not dem igods in DxD. |
2018-09-04, 13:16 | Link #105 |
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Royalknightftw I am hoping for something similar which is in part why I hope he doesn't only get 1 pawn, 2 or 3 would be preferred in my opinion. On reflection about my demigod character I have changed my mind to a daughter of Zeus. The reasons I now think this would be better are that Athena in mythology has no children while Zeus has several which leads to my 2nd reason. As a demigod she could have a sacred gear as all the other Greek sacred gear holders have a hero's spirit, with that in mind she could have Helen of Troy's spirit as a sacred gear since she also was a daughter of Zeus. The sacred gear could have an ability that draws the attention of men to the point that they turn on one another. The only problem I would have with this is that as Zeus' daughters her powers would probably control over wind and thunder which kind of steps on Ravel and Akeno's toes.
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2018-09-04, 14:28 | Link #106 | |
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2018-09-04, 14:45 | Link #107 |
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I would too, hence her power being an issue for me but at the same time there is still some existing overlap with the characters powers already. Koneko can use her kasha technique to create flames which encroaches on Ravels pyrokinesis, similarly Issei as a dragon can also use flames.
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2018-09-04, 14:50 | Link #108 |
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@Darksider The only thing I have against most of your ideas is that they are too similar to some other characters.
Powerful species and half-human and possesses a Sacred Gear: Vali, Ingvild, Gasper, Valerie. And two of those physical descriptions seemed like you drew inspiration from Akame(Akame ga Kill) and Fine(Madan no Ou to Vanadis). |
2018-09-04, 16:21 | Link #109 | |
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I'm not to bothered by the hybrid situation as that is a general state that isn't just unique to say Vali. I wanted to balance out the weaknesses of ise's team. And a team of hybrids could be Ise's team unique trope. |
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2018-09-04, 21:03 | Link #111 |
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I'm not questioning if they exist. I'm just questioning if they are demigods like in the original myth. The originals could have been just human heroes in DxD instead of half-god like in the original myth.
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I think that he will add one last old character in Issei Peerage, maybe Le Fay(the only human in Issei harem) for give her more lifetime.. |
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2018-09-05, 10:45 | Link #115 |
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I thought the same but according to B214 When I asked the same that the tweet didn't specify that his remaining peices would be both new and old characters, but his peerage would consist of old and new characters. As for Le fay's lifespan I'm hoping that Vali gets his own evil peice set so he can compete outside the Azazel cup and Le fay could be his bishop
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2018-09-08, 18:44 | Link #117 |
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I think that Le Fay will become a devil through Vali, not Issei. Issei already has her as his contract witch. I'm sure Vali's gonna get his Evil Pieces (he could already get them since he is an ultimate class devil) so he will have the chance to fight in more rating games since he is a battle maniac (if I recall he already told Issei that he would like to fight him and Rias' team in a rating game kind of fight)
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2018-09-10, 07:36 | Link #118 |
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If we talk about some ideas that of course will never be realised in the novel, then I have some too.
Rook: the result of an experiment of Loki, realised mixing the genes of Bergelmir (frost giant), Surtr (fire giant) and Ymir (the first giant) in the body of a newborn human girl. To balance the amount of power injected into that girl Loki used his magic and forbidden spells, the purpose was the creation of a being that on his its could have caused Ragnarok. Mixing the colossal strenght of the first giant with the fire and ice, Loki would have created the ultimate weapon. And the fact of being human would have killed her in the moment her power became too great, granting Loki that she would have not been able to survive long enough to turn against him. Her body should have exploded so badly to ice the oceans and burning down the earth. Turning her into a devil and canalize her power though devil magic and, with the proper training, touki, could save her life. As Issei, she has to control opposite powers inside of her and find a way to balance them. Her physical strenght is extreme, and she can generate fire, ice and water which, once she will be able to master their full potential, could destroy the world. Sairaorg thinks that her full potential could put her on the same league or even above Regulus Nemea. Knight: A european swordswoman of celtic origin with a SG called "Silver King" or "Silver Arm of Túatha Dé Danann". It's a SG which cover with silver the right arm (from the shoulder to the fingers of the hand) the owner. It grants the power to multiply the sharpness of the blade the right hand holds by 10 times. But when it's combined with the legendary sword Claíomh Solais, the conscience of the (dead) celtic god Nuada awakens and its real power is shown, evolving the SG giving it a power so great to be classified as a Longinus, since with the sword of the god himself, the sharpness is amplified by over 100 times and can cut everything in its way, even gods' soul with the Balance Breaker, which cover the whole body with transparent silver which turns the body into a sword itself (not physically, just the power), able to cut everything that tries to hit it, magic, weapons, body parts and even curses. The only way to stop the cuts, even the flying ones, is to catch them by the sides with an incredible amount of strenght. There are, however, weapons able, if properly used and with enough power, to hold on against its power: Caliburn and Gramr. Pawn (3): The daughter of a half dwarf and half dark elf man and a human woman, so a dwarf-elf-human which gave her the height and appearance of a human woman, but the ability and magic of dwarves and dark-elves in creating and enhancing incredible weapons and objects. Since her power is supportive and not offensive, Evil Pieces required are just three, but she can greatly improve her force through the objects and weapons she can create. Pawn (3): The inheritor of the soul of Circe, the goddess of magic/witch/enchantress/sorceress in Greek mythology. She has a SG called "Ancient Enchantress" or "Goddess of Transformation and Sorcery's Grimoire" which indeed has the form of a grimoire (spell book) in her left hand, with an incredible amount of magic formulas to perform great spells, especially the ones able to transform people and the creation of poisons. Her magic is also 3 times more effective against male opponents. With her Balance Breaker she can activate dozens of spells at the same time and, as long as she has a drop of magic in her, she is practically immortal. Another power granted by her BB is that her magic is 10 times stronger against male opponents. Pawn (1): Kiyome Abe. Becoming a devil, she was went to the Familiar Master and using her ability as a Beast Tamer, enhanced by devil magic, especially considering the fact that Issei granted her the permission to promote in that forest, Kiyome captured many familiars and she was even able to take the evil and powerful Nine-Headed Hydra that Rias mentioned speaking to Issei long ago. On top of that, she also made friend with Tiamat and she accepted to become her familiar. Using her power of Beast Tamer combined with a spell she created, she found the way to improve her familiars' and beasts' power according to how she promote herself. When she promote to Rook, for example, all the familiars gain the trait of the Rook, improving their strenght and defense. She practically can promote her whole party of creatures when she promote herself. Pawn (Mutation Piece): the descendant of the monk Rasputin, and she has a unique Sacred Gear since hers has been passed down from generation to generation because it was corrupted by the monk himself through mysterious black arts and pacts with the devils. It's called "Holy Profane" or "Evil Petrine Cross Which Defies God" and grants the wielder different powers. It has the form of a black Cross of St. Peter. The most feared of its abilities is the power to improve the power of any kind of evil creature, for example devils, fallen angels and vampires. It can also heal fatal wound on evil beings. It can also canalize dark power of the creatures with which the wielder came in contact, since a small portion of the improved energy it grants to evil beings is sealed into the SG. So the more creatures come into contact with it, the greater the power guaranteed to its owner. This power takes the form of what is called Dark Touki, a stronger and evil version of Touki, which is also much more difficult to control, since it grants the user an incredible amount of Senjutsu power. The malice that risks to corrupt the wielder is on a whole other level compared to Senjutsu itself, so it's almost impossible to master this power without losing oneself. If you are able to perform this feat, however, you obtain a body incredibly strong through Dark Touki and a Senjutsu so powerful to be considered almost bottomless, since it can only grow with new evil beings the owner meets. Once you master the Dark Touki, even if you're body is fatally wounded or even dismembered, it restores itself with dark healing power, giving the owner the ability to fight almost endlessly. In his BB, called "Symphony of the Dead" Holy Profane allows the wielder to summon a great amount of corpses imbued with Dark Touki, and the SG takes the form of a mystic keyboard. Playing it, the wielder controls the corpses with the music of a pipe organ and allows them use senjutsu to control the nature around them and dark touki to enforce their physical strenght. If they get destroyed, they becomes black mist and then they come back as they were before being attacked, so the only way to stop them is to stop the wielder. The Church classified Holy Profane as a "Desecrated Gear" because of its nature. They thought it was finally lost forever after they killed the last possessor (her father), then they found out that he had a child with a prostitute. Once they killed him, Holy Profane was passed to her and she was hunted down for months religious fanatics through the forests of Russia, and even Stray Devils pursued her to make her increase their power. Coming in contact with them and being force by them to use her gear, she absorbed malice and got out of control, killin the stray devils and chased away the fanatics with her evil power. Angels decided to kill her to prevent her from killing innocents like the other members of her cursed family, but Issei decided to stand up to them for her. Issei, being a devil, was not listened by her, and she attacked him after the malice in her got out of control, but Issei decided not to fight her, so he didn't even use his SG and kept taking all her powerful blows until her conscience stopped her own body when he was about to die instead of hurting her to defend himself. She healed him and started to cry desperately. Once she got he was about to die, she tried to kill herself out of guilt, but Issei stopped her with his hand, begging her not to do it, because her death would have hurt him much more than her attacks. Using Holy Profane with the instinct of wanting to save him, she healed his wounds and, in that moment, his Pawn/Mutation Piece started to shine, making him understand that she was the one destined to that Piece. |
2018-09-10, 09:23 | Link #119 |
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The only problem with half of those is that you're putting their potential on par with the Longinus possessors without them being Longinus possessors themselves. Which would have them surpassing most of the main cast in DxD.
Your rook idea just sounds like another Second. And her being able to destroy the world would put her on par with the Longinus possessors. Your knight idea was fine until you included the holy sword. And then just made it another Canis Lykaon. And your pawn idea would automatically be a Longinus. I like the ideas but you made most of them way too powerful and the Sacred Gears you just made into Longinus. |
2018-09-10, 09:36 | Link #120 | |
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the rook was created with 3 powerful beings made up with the power of a god like Loki. about the pawn I didn't want to create a longinus but something different from a sacred gear, a corrupted version of it. |
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