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View Poll Results: Has anyone experienced harassment with the authorities? (customs/police/etc) | |||
Yes | 11 | 20.75% | |
No | 27 | 50.94% | |
Never had any manga with me | 15 | 28.30% | |
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2010-06-04, 14:28 | Link #1 | |
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Customs can't distinguish hentai from other things
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What do you guys think of this? Link: Screw Bronze
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2010-06-04, 15:10 | Link #2 |
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Join Date: May 2010
Location: UK
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My experience, so far, in Europe has been noone seems to care. I haven't carried anything obvious like My Balls, but noone freaked out when they saw the manga in my bag. I've had the manga I import from Japan to the UK looked through by customs (as some volumes are always open when they arrive) but never had any trouble.
I have to say, Id be a little edgy if they decided to take a proper look through page by page to 'make an example of me' but up til now, they've just glanced in my bag, gone 'book' and moved me on. Having said all that, I'll now get searched and detained when I next fly... Last edited by airstorm; 2010-06-04 at 15:58. Reason: All above referring to international flights |
2010-06-04, 15:54 | Link #3 |
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As of yet, I haven't had any trouble with carrying manga around. I've bought some M rated stuff from the local bookstore and nobody even bats an eye when they hand it to me. I haven't tried to take any of my manga onto a flight yet (and when I do, that's probably when things will get ugly, with how security is these days), so that might also explain why I haven't had such a major issue with it so far.
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2010-06-04, 17:41 | Link #4 | |
Excessively jovial fellow
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: ISDB-T
Age: 38
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In general, European customs isn't going to care as long as it isn't loli (child porn has been getting a lot of attention lately, mostly as an excuse to create various internet filters); most EU countries either no longer have obscenity laws or aren't enforcing them.
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2010-06-04, 19:28 | Link #5 |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 67
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There's always some witches to persecute and burn somewhere....
I'm still trying to wrap my brain around the idea that a *DRAWING* of anything can be illegal -- thoughtcrime at its most basic.
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2010-06-04, 19:48 | Link #6 |
Osana-Najimi Shipper
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Mt. Ordeals
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And people wonder why I'm so anal about the definition of a 'loli'?
Being a Canadian, and having brought manga/dvds/games across the border a number of times, definition of 'loli' is very important and relevant on what can and cannot cross the border. That's why my defintion of 'loli' states that they do not have secondary sex characteristics, as manga/doujin with flat chested girls always gets a closer look from customs, but buxom ones are merely thumbed over even if they are technically under 14. Not that I had any stopped at the border (only h stuff I ever bring over are games which is way easier to get in the US), but I don't think it's a coincidence that manga with pettankos gets scrutinized more in my experience, when these officers are looking for anything 'pedo'. I mean, if I'm going to live as a Canadian, that means following Canadian rules. And unlike most other countries, that means extreme tight regulations on anything 'pedo', both real photos and drawn. Hey, I don't make the rules, I just follow them. So, all the power to them... I'm as 'anti-pedo' as the next guy, so I'm glad these customs officers are thumbing through my stuff as it shows how diligent our enforcement of the law is. Sure they think I'm 'weird' and would give me an evil eye or two, but hey, it ain't the first nor the last time that's going to happen. I'm used to it by now. Small price to pay, I'd say, to keep these things out of the country. Really, now, it's not really 'obscene' stuff that gets stopped, it's the loli/shota ones. At least, I haven't had a problem bringing over h-games across the border. Yaoi/Yuri stuff? Nope, not a problem either. Not that I would know (never actually had any of those), but a US store in anime north comes year and year out with a bunch of those (everyone who attends that con knows who I'm talking about, as they shout "YAOI!" nonstop in the dealers room), so I have NO IDEA why the original quote makes such a big deal out of gay/lesbian stuff when its not those the officers are stopping to get across the border.
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2010-06-04, 19:55 | Link #7 | |
Le fou, c'est moi
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Las Vegas, NV, USA
Age: 35
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2010-06-04, 20:14 | Link #8 | |
Pretentious moe scholar
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Age: 37
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(Edit: If I remember right, in possession cases, the judge is suppose to allow an artistic merit defense if the material has even the slightest artistic merit - I wouldn't be surprised if most of the erogames actually worth playing qualify. That said, I'm no lawyer so I could be totally off base there, and I don't know if the standard varies for importing.) Anyway, speaking personally, I only tend to order non-H stuff via RightStuf, so of course I've never had any trouble. I've only had my package searched once anyway. That said, the basic impression I have of the system is that it's highly dependent on what agent you happen to get, so hearing stories like the one posted doesn't surprise me in the slightest. (Also, as a political science major who has actually discussed administrative practice stuff a bit for some of my courses, the bit about "file a complaint with the agent you're complaining about" bit made me headdesk.)
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2010-06-05, 02:25 | Link #9 |
Obey the Darkly Cute ...
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Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: On the whole, I'd rather be in Kyoto ...
Age: 67
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Its probably really hard not to say, "keep the damn book since it seems to turn YOU on so much, officer. I'd never noticed anything perverted about it."
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2010-06-05, 02:34 | Link #10 |
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In my country, most people think anime are for kids. And since we are at the brink of economic collapse, nobody cares to make a fuss about it.
As for Canada and America, those are hot spots of witch hunts, especially the later. If you hear the word puritanist or creativist, expect something like that close by. We had something similar many years ago about books being burned on the streets because the author made a fictional story about Jesus. The religious zealots went bananas. We also had a small uprise of similar groups concerning series like Power Rangers and Yugioh being full of pagan monsters. But customs? That thing doesn't exist here; you can ship to my country anything you like. If the dogs don't bark (in the rare cases they use them), it doesn't matter. |
2010-06-05, 06:22 | Link #12 |
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I remember my friend ordered an issue of Megami magazine from Japan, and it took awhile before the magazine finally reached him, and he was shocked and completely disappointed when he saw his Megami magazine being censored here and there in most pages with a marker pen, obviously hand-censoring by Malaysia customs. Not sure about figurines and other related anime stuffs, but shipping magazines from Japan to Malaysia will likely ended up like that, since it has to go through the customs before the product can be send to the buyer. One of the few ways to avoid this is to order through bookstore like Kinokuniya, although it would cost abit more.
But i think if compared to the Canadian customs, i think Malaysia customs is still not that strict when it comes to stuffs like this. I may be wrong at this since i never really order stuffs from Japan, but seeing my other friends had no problem with the items that they ordered from Japan, so i guess i can safely assume it like that. |
2010-06-05, 15:14 | Link #14 |
My wolfu is >> your waifu
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Charleston, West Virginia
Age: 42
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Hmmmm... never had an issue with that.
However, I was pulled aside for having a copy of Liberty and Tyranny: A Conservative Manifesto in my possession. I was questioned about my recent volume of travel (I was on interviews) and my possession of an "inflammatory" book. I did not realize that book was so "dangerous". Fortunately, I was able to keep it... as a side note, I never noticed anything inflammatory (or hateful) or dangerous about that book during my reading of it! Funny enough, on another trip, I had an agent complement me on my choice of materials (manga and the above noted book, so...) I guess there are always going to be people who outliers in any group. You probably got a few unprofessional individuals who wanted to "big-boy" you.
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2010-06-05, 17:39 | Link #16 |
Excessively jovial fellow
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: ISDB-T
Age: 38
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are you trolling or are you delusional or what
if you really like getting random things confiscated as "obscene" and/or want to get ostracized because of odd sexual tastes, the US is one of the best countries in the world to live in. otherwise, don't fucking go there.
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