Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai - General Discussion [Archive] - Page 5

Saturn Beaver

2011-10-14, 14:07

Wish visual novels I played had a voice for the main character...

Anyway, to the episode. Yep, they're crazy all right - but there is chemistry there between Kodaka, Yozora and Sena here. Playing the games may not have done much in the sense of improving their relationships with each other (Yozora and Sena still beating each other up with renewed vigour :D), but it certainly told me a lot of things about their character.

Kodaka is nothing more than a victim of circumstance - had he had black hair (to start with, not dyed it) and turned up on time to the first day, I doubt he would have had much of a problem with making friends.

Yozora and Sena on the other hand... yikes, they have problems. No wonder why they can't make friends if they thought Fujibayashi in the game was a slut by being friendly towards the MC in the game when they'd only just met her.

Definitely think the latter two have a skewed sense of how to make friends, in my opinion.

Always thought the OP was good, but the ED has grown on me.

More than voiced protagonist for VN, what amazes me more is that the other characters are able to voice the protagonist name, and a weird one at that...I haven't been following the latest-gen games for the last few years, so maybe they already starts to appear, but back when I play while inserting your name is very common, they usually just use pronoun and things like that when the name comes up in voice acting.

Poor Kodaka, but for some reason my greatest laugh comes from him. His backfiring attempt to get friends, him just digging for gems while the two girls fight, and his fury upon discovering that the MC already has the usual loser best friend is hilarious. And yeah, comparison for Sena to Kirino will inevitably occurs, they're both smart, athletic and popular, and also huge fan of galge and even forces the MC to play it. While Sena is by no means not bitchy, I think Yozora's callousness fits the little sister's personality better though.

Yusei Fudo

2011-10-14, 14:19

I lol'ed at "Nagata Yukiko" XD

Obvious Reference from Nagato Yuki :P

Duo Maxwell

2011-10-14, 14:28

More than voiced protagonist for VN, what amazes me more is that the other characters are able to voice the protagonist name, and a weird one at that...I haven't been following the latest-gen games for the last few years, so maybe they already starts to appear, but back when I play while inserting your name is very common, they usually just use pronoun and things like that when the name comes up in voice acting.

Love Plus could do that, but for a weird name as that, I'm not sure :heh:.

Kyouka

2011-10-14, 15:09

yozora has no panties on in episode 2???? oh mai

Miraluka

2011-10-14, 15:46

Dunno if you will like it but here's the best I could manage.

http://i.imgur.com/gSrwL.gif

http://i.imgur.com/0Rn6A.gif
Put mi nick on the bottom left corner :D. Forgot to tell you that.

frubam

2011-10-14, 16:04

*facepalms* what torture (T.T)! I can't believe they used the[BwTgS] manga's art style for the galge game. And it looks so darn good! They REALLY should have went with that art style instead of that other guy(Byakuya or whatever). Fujibayashi alone looks better and cuter than both Yozora and Sena (>.>). I SHOULD be grateful that they did that, and I got to see the manga's art style in motion and color(the cover of that galge game looked AMAZING =03!), but I really feel like they were teasing me =0<.

The monster hunter part was drawn better than I expected. Seeing Sena charge 3 times and slash Yozora in the back was hilarious :heh:. So was putting Sena to sleep and insta-dropping an explosive barrel next to her.

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa299/frubam/Untitled-3-1.jpg

Sumeragi

2011-10-14, 16:21

http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa299/frubam/Untitled-3-1.jpg
There needs to be lilies blossoming around them :p:D:heh:

:blush::heehee::kisskiss:

Rozen Van Kaizer

2011-10-14, 16:26

There needs to be lilies blossoming around them :p:D:heh:

:blush::heehee::kisskiss:

DO IT! This show is all about these 2 girls not about who the main guy is going to pick!

I'm more interested on Yozora and Sena getting closer together (either in a friendly or destructive way) than who Kodaka chooses in the end.

Midonin

2011-10-14, 16:41

Bonta Kun

2011-10-14, 16:58

yozora has no panties on in episode 2???? oh mai

That or either she's wearing a thong thats really....well you know where I'm going with that:D

I did like the 1st ep, thought it was a good start but 2nd was by far a much better episode and gave the kinda feeling I've been expecting from this series, much and many enjoyable laughs.

Reading some posts, funny thing happened was I actually paused at a certain scene but not cause I wanted to admire it(well that thought didn't come till after I saw it) but cause dinner was ready at that time and I went to eat:D
It certainly leaves an impression compared to any other kinda fanservice you get.

Loved the gaming part, just as funny as it is in the manga and does indeed remind me of my old days when me and mates were playing games.
Times you just had to kill from behind or just mess around for the fun of it.
The VN one was great with Sena and Yozura agreeing on options and taking it so seriously:heh:

Still can't make up my mind if Marina Inoue fits Yozura or not and if I don't make my mind up by the 3rd ep I think it willk probably plague me for the rest of the series>__<
Heres hoping I can get past it.

Totally loving this series and loving the Meat!:D

Can't wait for next episode, the POOL!!!

relentlessflame

2011-10-14, 17:43

I don't know if the "L" or the "N2" tag should go here, but this is one of a few (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-10-14/niconico-streams-shana-iii-future-diary-haganai-c3-maken-ki) series that'll be simulcast.Yeah, I was sort of debating which of the two tags should go as well, but given that it's in partnership with Funimation, we can call it a license. It remains to be confirmed when the home video release will happen, though, but for this show I think it's a pretty safe assumption that it'll happen.

Chaos2Frozen

2011-10-14, 17:46

Yeah, I was sort of debating which of the two tags should go as well, but given that it's in partnership with Funimation, we can call it a license. It remains to be confirmed when the home video release will happen, though, but for this show I think it's a pretty safe assumption that it'll happen.

Wow, almost every show this season is tagged with (L) or (CR) :eyespin:

Midonin

2011-10-14, 18:14

Been that way for several seasons now. Of all the shows I'm watching (this may exclude some shows I'm not), only ~two of them are unstreamed.

I love living in the future.

Sides

2011-10-14, 18:27

So I guess Sena has a foreign parent as well? Or perhaps she's actually Caucasian and lives in Japan because of her parent's business?

Pretty sure Yozura mentioned that Sena's dad is the headmaster or principle of the school. Considering that it appears to be a some sort of christian school, maybe they are foreign or from foreign origin. Alternatively she could be adopted. I have not read the novels, so it is just guess work i'm doing.

Sumeragi

2011-10-14, 18:32

The surname does make it sure that the father is Japanese. Can't say for the mother.

Von Himmel

2011-10-14, 20:10

Chaos2Frozen

2011-10-14, 20:17

...don't you guys think that yozora and sena relationship is much better than in the novel? :heh:

It's more like we haven't gotten to the 'good' part yet :heh:

But most likely we'll have alot of verbal censorship :p

Ravenblitz

2011-10-14, 20:45

http://kurisu.imouto.org/data/preview/be/4b/be4b39c2f0f47ca5d0996571ac705a95.jpg (http://oreno.imouto.org/post/show/195493/boku_wa_tomodachi_ga_sukunai-fixme-fujii_maki-hase)

Tenchi Ryu

2011-10-14, 21:09

I swear while watching this....I seriously thought....

"you know, I do need to start playing Monster Hunter again, cause I have gotten rusty" lol

Bonta Kun

2011-10-14, 21:10

Totally forgot to mention that kiss? scene, totally caught me out, when it happened I almost squealed like a little girl!:heh:
I tell ya that was something, it's like a very very very very good and bad tease>__<
That coupled with how they "got along" in the rest of the ep brings a smile to the inner yuri fan in me:D

tsundere on tsundere?:p

Master_Yoma

2011-10-14, 21:13

Kodaka in a schoolgirl uniform :heh: that was just so awesome

Malkuth

2011-10-14, 21:32

Funny episode, yet we are two in and only Kobato's PSP, favourite show and a glipse of the top of her head have only appeared :(

Oh! and who/what is/was Semoponume :confused:

Rozen Van Kaizer

2011-10-14, 21:41

Kodaka in a schoolgirl uniform :heh: that was just so awesome

LOLWut?....

Very awesome shyts people didn't seem to have discussed:
1. Yozora Sensei <3
2. Did that dragon just pointlessly tried to save Sena from Yozora's bomb!?
3. Yozora loves to kill someone....
4. Isn't this a porential Tsundere x Tsundere yuri couple? Has this ever happened!?

Midonin

2011-10-14, 21:51

4. Isn't this a porential Tsundere x Tsundere yuri couple? Has this ever happened!?
Sakurako/Himawari. Last season.

Decagon

2011-10-14, 22:33

There needs to be lilies blossoming around them :p:D:heh:

:blush::heehee::kisskiss:

http://i.imgur.com/xt89Y.jpg

I don't think I've done sparkles or sprinkles in over 10 years, so none of that. Sorry. Yuri are from http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=22097737

Sumeragi

2011-10-14, 23:11

I don't think I've done sparkles or sprinkles in over 10 years, so none of that. Sorry. Yuri are from http://www.pixiv.net/member_illust.php?mode=medium&illust_id=22097737
No no, AROUND the girls, like this (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/733815/-_-6-girls-black_eyes-black_hair-bow-brown_eyes-br)!

Decagon

2011-10-14, 23:19

No no, AROUND the girls, like this (http://danbooru.donmai.us/post/show/733815/-_-6-girls-black_eyes-black_hair-bow-brown_eyes-br)!

Haha. Forgive me! I'm terrible at composition.

http://i.imgur.com/b6GG8.jpg

With a bluish bg instead of flowers and pink--http://i.imgur.com/0DiKm.jpg

to save space.

Marcus H.

2011-10-15, 00:28

By the power of Gaussian Blur!

http://i56.tinypic.com/2l8hlwp.jpg

zeniselv

2011-10-15, 01:14

is this a VIP challenge?

Kagayaki

2011-10-15, 01:22

http://i.imgur.com/UxHB4.jpg

Hmmm, did I add enough sparkles?

Duo Maxwell

2011-10-15, 01:28

http://i.imgur.com/UxHB4.jpg

Hmmm, did I add enough sparkles?

We have a winner.

The image looks so right that it's just wrong.

jeroz

2011-10-15, 01:31

those two just reminds me of the double tsun pair in Yuruyuri and Mitsudomoe.

*glasses off*

oh~~yeah~~~~

relentlessflame

2011-10-15, 01:34

Hmmm, did I add enough sparkles?lol - yes, I was thinking sparkles too. All I had was bubbles (http://www.relentlessness.com/stuff/haganai_yuri.jpg), though, and that healthy pink glow. :heh:

Let it be said that I'm not totally against having fun... sometimes. :heh:

CrowKenobi

2011-10-15, 01:41

We have a winner before I can put in my two cents! :meh:

.jpg-->http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/6884/b6gg8v3.th.jpg (http://img24.imageshack.us/i/b6gg8v3.jpg/) . http://img840.imageshack.us/img840/9664/b6gg8v4.th.png (http://img840.imageshack.us/i/b6gg8v4.png/)<--.png

no sparkles, unfortunately.

zeniselv

2011-10-15, 01:50

maybe if someone with decent skills modify the eyebrows....

Decagon

2011-10-15, 01:54

is this a VIP challenge?Seems like it, lol.
Now try one with this:
http://i.imgur.com/MDpLC.jpg

:p

Sumeragi

2011-10-15, 01:55

Hmmm, did I add enough sparkles?

Just perfect :nod::blush::kisskiss:

BTW people, someone needs make the forehead the color of skin instead of that red bump.

Decagon

2011-10-15, 02:07

Just perfect :nod::blush::kisskiss:

BTW people, someone needs make the forehead the color of skin instead of that red bump.

This page will probably be hell for some people to load, but.. here's a png without a background (transparent). Toy around with it. Fixed the forehead too.
http://i.imgur.com/xIjkU.png

Kagayaki

2011-10-15, 02:18

^
Nice job removing the red spot.

http://i.imgur.com/meD8c.jpg

Hmm, I guess that would look like this? I think I like Marcus' blur a bit better than mine though.

maybe if someone with decent skills modify the eyebrows....

lol, that would be a pain. Anyone who wants to do that... feel free.

-Sho-

2011-10-15, 02:56

Obviously Sena win , she's the princess/model/Perfect(almost) type in the anime.
Well , i have no preference but Yozora is still fine for a "normal+" girl.

Decagon

2011-10-15, 03:15

http://i.imgur.com/nhuDT.jpg

I added some tears and touched up the sleep deprivation under her eye a little and yeah, that eyebrow too. Have fun.

Kagayaki

2011-10-15, 03:27

^
Nice, did you just delete them and vector them back in?

On the plus side, using lighten for blur works better. I guess that's what Marcus was doing.

http://i.imgur.com/OhUeu.jpg

DummyInc

2011-10-15, 03:35

fujibayashi akari voiced by saber's seiyuu?

Decagon

2011-10-15, 03:41

^
Nice, did you just delete them and vector them back in?

On the plus side, using lighten for blur works better. I guess that's what Marcus was doing.

Yup. Been using layers with vector masks to make it easy to outline and color.

Duo Maxwell

2011-10-15, 03:47

I can see the doujin coming.

Saturn Beaver

2011-10-15, 04:15

Oh please, the doujin are already there if you look hard enough. And really, nothing brings out the talent and motivation than implied lesbianism, huh:heh:. At this rate, an OT3 of Sena/Kodaka/Yozora is the best pairing, not because Kodaka doesn't have to choose between the two girls, but it's instead Sena/Yozora who doesn't have to choose between Kodaka or Yozora/Sena.

Kyouka

2011-10-15, 04:29

i never knew how wonderful Photoshop could be

Chaos2Frozen

2011-10-15, 04:31

The amount of effort put into this pursuit of fantasy is rather unnerving... :uhoh:

jeroz

2011-10-15, 04:58

The amount of effort put into this pursuit of fantasy is rather phenomenal... :D

fixed it for you.

zeniselv

2011-10-15, 05:16

the finshing tuoch would be a small but sexy smirk on yozora's face, inverting her mouth probably will do.

MagicaLideaL

2011-10-15, 05:34

LOL This episode is sooo funny. This episode is the first in this season that gave me so much laughters

Sena has really gone too over. The part where she teamkilled her own partymate is too hilarious and Yozora believes that a highest rank player will miss an attack like that makes it really suspicious :heh:

I can't believe they choose option 3 as the reply. Not to mention they judge the main girl character as a slutty bitch for acting friendly towards the main protagonist

The 4th member is going to be a guy!

Sumeragi

2011-10-15, 05:48

The amount of effort put into this pursuit of fantasy is rather unnerving... :uhoh:
It's just a small part of the inevitable yuri pairing. When such two opposites meets, they will attract.....

Here's a sample of my Haganai Yuri collection: the worst part is that these are just the tip of the iceberg, which includes quite a bit of NSFW things. Have fun!

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/th_19172727_p1.jpg (http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/19172727_p1.jpg) http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/th_22056089.jpg (http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/22056089.jpg) http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/th_18251428.jpg (http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/18251428.jpg) http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/th_2cb3404e31a06c8b9bd3007cc20d05d9.jpg (http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/2cb3404e31a06c8b9bd3007cc20d05d9.jpg) http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/th_22028229.png (http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/22028229.png)
http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/th_22359238_p0.jpg (http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/22359238_p0.jpg) http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/th_21807343.jpg (http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn71/empireofrisingsun/Haganai/21807343.jpg)

Chaos2Frozen

2011-10-15, 05:51

It's just a small part of the inevitable yuri pairing. When such two opposites meets, they will attract.....

...
...
...

...Okay... If you insist... >.>

Von Himmel

2011-10-15, 06:17

For those who've posted those Yozora & Sena pics..

I can't rep you enough :D

ThereminVox

2011-10-15, 08:36

"T-Take responsibility, baka!"

These last two pages have been... :twitch: but I love every second of it.

I can see the doujin coming.

Well, we've got its cover art.

Forsaken_Infinity

2011-10-15, 08:53

^
Nice, did you just delete them and vector them back in?

On the plus side, using lighten for blur works better. I guess that's what Marcus was doing.

http://i.imgur.com/OhUeu.jpg

That one's THE winner imho ^^

Cosmic Eagle

2011-10-15, 09:07

It's just a small part of the inevitable yuri pairing. When such two opposites meets, they will attract.....

I refuse to believe that....these two are enemies of each other forever....must not give in to the yuri....

Rozen Van Kaizer

2011-10-15, 09:23

I refuse to believe that....these two are enemies of each other forever....must not give in to the yuri....

You will give in to this!

http://hphotos-iad1.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/332513_2548373031324_1313762374_3028521_1386067979 _o.jpg

This Series needs a sub forum...

Cosmic Eagle

2011-10-15, 09:37

Of course....coz that's not out of character yuri but sweet romance...

Hell yes it needs its own sub-forum...

Xcomp

2011-10-15, 09:49

They parodied two of the most popular console games in Japan this episode. Pretty well done parodies, lol.

Monster Hunter and Tokimeki Memorial!

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/4251/tomosuku1.jpg

http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/1152/tomosuku2i.jpgRight... I'm going to try and use the lines from dating sims to get to know "3D" girls =P

Miraluka

2011-10-15, 09:55

The amount of effort put into this pursuit of fantasy is rather disturbing... :uhoh:
Re-fixed.

I wonder if they're going to skeep some chapters.

Chaos2Frozen

2011-10-15, 10:02

You will give in to this!

http://hphotos-iad1.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/332513_2548373031324_1313762374_3028521_1386067979 _o.jpg

Now this is something I can get behind.

This Series needs a sub forum...

As long as this remains a [Mai Waifu] only discussion thread, it's very hard to get a sub forum...

relentlessflame

2011-10-15, 11:06

As long as this remains a [Mai Waifu] only discussion thread, it's very hard to get a sub forum...In not so many words, yes. A sub-forum needs to be able to sustain enough actual content/discussion to support weekly episode threads of substance. Just having a lot of posts about "nothing" alone isn't a very good argument. You'd be better off creating a social group because then you can actually have threaded discussion about whatever you want (and in fact, there already is a social group in this case).

That aside, we generally ask that threads not dwell on whether they do or don't get a sub-forum. The staff are always observing the threads to see what seems to make most sense.

Miraluka

2011-10-15, 11:38

Not really at all, Oreimo got its sub-forum and I didn't find many posts beyond those about the main character behaviour and the liking/hating character discussions.

The same way goes on this series which appeal is based on characters doing things with many interactions and some plot yet to como in the next episode.

relentlessflame

2011-10-15, 12:03

Not really at all, Oreimo got its sub-forum and I didn't find many posts beyond those about the main character behaviour and the liking/hating character discussions.Even in that case, the tone of the discussion was a bit different (especially at the beginning when the decision was made). The show seemed to give a lot more to talk about because the subject covered were a bit a "weightier". But like I said, the staff consider each case separately, so there's not really a point debating it. All I can say is that it takes more than a lot of posts for a show to get a sub-forum. Let's return to the topic.

Rozen Van Kaizer

2011-10-15, 15:05

Bonta Kun

2011-10-15, 15:53

I've got a question though, is it this easy to actually establish these kinds of weird clubs like the Neighbors Club? I never really experienced establishing a club myself but I'm pretty sure there are quite alot of restrictions and regulations you have to go through first.

When I was in high school we actually had an Anime Club which doesn't really benefit us educationally if that's one of the requirements. All we did was discussed about anime, draw anime, field trip to an anime convention, and just read mangas or watch a series. I forgot the Club's name but we also have this other club where the members go camping every Month. Not very educational and definitely time and energy consuming camping every Month.

There are other weird clubs I experienced and heard out there that's even more questionable than here in Haganai. So I'm wondering, what does it require in your education facility to create a club other than members? Can anybody just make the exact same club as The Neighbors Club?

Oh you should know exactly what the counter to this will be; "It's anime"

But as it goes, you get a series where setting up a club is as easy as getting slapped in the face for something you didn't do.

Or it can be a series where it's near impossible to setup a club like ever getting a chance to explain a misunderstanding.

Or you kinda get a inbetween where you just have to accept that it just happens for the sake of it, just like when that girl presents a handmade bento, you will ahve to eat it no matter what:heh:

Mazryonh

2011-10-15, 15:59

There are clubs made purely for socializing and the like across various educational institutions. But I very much doubt that in real life the school staff would allow the antics of the characters in this anime to get out of hand as they do in this series.

And perhaps getting some adults in on the mix to talk some of these dysfunctional characters around their dysfunctions would be more likely to get them some friends rather than try harebrained scheme after harebrained scheme.

Sumeragi

2011-10-15, 16:32

People, this is a private Catholic school in Japan. Given how it is really relatively easy to establish a club with the backing of a teacher, this club would have been a piece of cake to establish (never mind that Yozora does seem to have a way with words).

ShiroiRyu

2011-10-15, 17:43

Hep hep hep ...
For the NSFW ... It's a doujinshi or a chapter in the manga ? Oo
Anyways, loved the first part of episode 2 with Monster Hunter. ^^'

Malkuth

2011-10-15, 17:53

People, this is a private Catholic school in Japan.

You have no idea how strange this sounds (despite the prevalence in anime), say something like a public Shi'a school in Colorado :heh:

Given how it is really relatively easy to establish a club with the backing of a teacher, this club would have been a piece of cake to establish (never mind that Yozora does seem to have a way with words insults, and backstabbing).

Fixed it for you :p

mangatron

2011-10-15, 17:58

Ah man what happened to this thread... I'm somewhat glad I don't have that legendary of a connection, the mods would have a field day deleting :heh:

But I actually managed to read all the posts since my last post, and while I won't be quoting (my phone would die twice before I can copy any text:heh:), the general consensus is:

-Yozora's butt.
-Sena's meat bags :heh:

Eh? What about the leg service? Hardly mentioned about maybe once, was Yozora-sensei, seriously those stockings :love: and then Yozora sitting on the chair while watching Sena play the galge, folding her legs like that, even when Yozora sat on the window drinking the coffee, serious zettai ryouiki tease and then she folded her legs, ah I died twice :heh:

Hum, the Monster Hunting segment was nicely animated, they even took care to animate the crabs walking diagonally:heh: and Butterfly Sena was so cute. Even more so, seeing the 2 girls having fun beating each other up in the game, I wonder what is it that's preventing them from doing so for real.:heh: Maybe because they're such good friends... heh love sure is strange :p

And as mentioned by others, actually seeing the manga art style animated was a surprise, I really thought I would never see that in this series :bow: and I want to give a big LOL to the PlayingStatesIII controller. We did numbers, we did letters, will the next gen send us back to the ancient times with symbols? :heh:

Next ep... I hope Sena's pool segment lasts more than 10 minutes, I'd love to make the impending gifs for that but with my kind of connection, I'd be beaten to it for sure :p

http://kurisu.imouto.org/data/preview/be/4b/be4b39c2f0f47ca5d0996571ac705a95.jpg (http://oreno.imouto.org/post/show/195493/boku_wa_tomodachi_ga_sukunai-fixme-fujii_maki-hase)

Ah, now the better version is out :D I didn't pay it any mind last time, but why no Rika....:heh:

Decagon

2011-10-15, 19:00

Looks like the staff slipped a tribute to Steve Jobs into ep 2.
http://img844.imageshack.us/img844/9753/haga2trib.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/haga2trib.jpg/)

Source: http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-4634.html

Sumeragi

2011-10-15, 19:21

You have no idea how strange this sounds (despite the prevalence in anime), say something like a public Shi'a school in Colorado :heh:
Strangely enough, there are several famous private Catholic schools in Japan, among them Fukuoka Futaba School, Seishin Joshi Gakuin, and Gyosei School. I myself would have probably went to Seishin Joshi Gakuin or Gakushuin if I hadn't insisted in living in Kyoto.

Shimapan

2011-10-15, 19:43

Seeing Sena and Yozora playing a game and getting at each other there was hilarious :D

Also, good for Sena that she finally has 7 more friends... even if they're 2D friends ;)

What I noticed about Kodaka:
Kodaka, the new Hideyoshi? (from BakaTest).
- He has a handheld in a very girlish pink. Neither of the girls have a pink one.
- He's wearing a belly-free female armour in the handheld game.
- Later in the gal-game, he's even wearing a female school uniform.

If it goes on like that, Hideyoshi will get serious competition from Kodaka ;)

Sumeragi

2011-10-15, 19:49

- He has a handheld in a very girlish pink. Neither of the girls have a pink one.
It was his sister's PSP.

- He's wearing a belly-free female armour in the handheld game.
Uhm. did you say female because of it being belly-free? If so, see He-Man.

- Later in the gal-game, he's even wearing a female school uniform.
Just to contrast with Sena's male uniform

-f it goes on like that, Hideyoshi will get serious competition from Kodaka ;)
Not by a long shot.

Shimapan

2011-10-15, 20:13

I took the sparkly pic to make a new sig :D

It was his sister's PSP.

Says who?

Uhm. did you say female because of it being belly-free? If so, see He-Man.

Yes, only girls and gays wear belly-free stuff.
Also, He-Man is very, very gay.

Just to contrast with Sena's male uniform

No, it's much more than that. If it was an isolated event, maybe, but together with the other two things, it's very conspicious :D

blakstealth

2011-10-15, 20:14

Wow, couldn't believe they showed part of Yozora's ass like that. Not to mention Sena's meat. Well, not really anymore..nvm. lol

And I was waiting for them to call that Akari a slutty bitch rofl. Pretty enjoyable ep. And wow, the pool episode is next already?

Chaos2Frozen

2011-10-15, 20:16

Says who?

Other then himself when he brought up that his sister has one? If he had one himself he wouldn't need to mention his sister.

If it goes on like that, Hideyoshi will get serious competition from Kodaka ;)

Hideyoshi's power is that every guy wants to believe he's a girl.

You'll never get that from Kodaka, hell nobody even thinks of him as anything short of a monster.

blakstealth

2011-10-15, 20:22

Forgot to add..Did anyone think that one scene with Sena walking behind the bridge then stepping off it like she was already on the bridge a bit awkward?

DragoZERO

2011-10-15, 21:30

Episode two was fuuunny. I loved how the girls turned on each other in the video game, hilarious.

2011-10-15, 22:19

Here's some fanart! :)
http://img836.imageshack.us/img836/2641/haganai1.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/836/haganai1.jpg/)http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5721/haganai2.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/haganai2.jpg/)http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7740/haganai3.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/831/haganai3.jpg/)http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/3413/haganai4.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/543/haganai4.jpg/)http://img846.imageshack.us/img846/4505/haganai5.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/846/haganai5.jpg/)http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/7482/haganai6.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/16/haganai6.jpg/)http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5633/haganai7.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/338/haganai7.jpg/)http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/8913/haganai8.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/687/haganai8.jpg/)http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/7650/haganai9.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/18/haganai9.jpg/)http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/2431/haganai10.th.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/haganai10.png/)

mangatron

2011-10-15, 23:43

Here's some fanart! :)
http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/5721/haganai2.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/827/haganai2.jpg/)

For some reason I find this image extremely cute :love::heh:

And well, she does look a little bigger than usual XD

larethian

2011-10-15, 23:50

@Flame Haze
are you sure you took Sena's measurements correctly? don't you think she became bigger :heh:

KyriaL

2011-10-16, 02:39

@Flame Haze
are you sure you took Sena's measurements correctly? don't you think she became bigger :heh:

Was that in a good way or a bad way?

Saturn Beaver

2011-10-16, 03:20

Says who?

He said himself that he remembers his sister having one and is going to borrow from her.

No, it's much more than that. If it was an isolated event, maybe, but together with the other two things, it's very conspicious :D

If you're really that desperate for Hideyoshi in this show, just wait a little bit more, there's someone who you really don't have to stretch your imagination that fits perfectly.

Westlo

2011-10-16, 03:47

I wonder - is those one of those series were everyone has to pick one or the other, like Rei or Asuka? If so, put me down as a Sena supporter all the way. But as for Yozora - was she wearing panties at 13:22 (http://lh4.ggpht.com/-IMX7NQUQFS8/TpeogopGdQI/AAAAAAAAVbg/1TdsapkmS2Y/s1600-h/%25255BMazui%25255D_Boku_Ha_Tomodachi_Ga_Sukunai_-_02_%25255BD4FFD0B0%25255D.mkv_snapshot_13.23_%252 55B2011.10.13_19.28.33%25255D%25255B2%25255D.jpg)? Sure didn't look like it...

Yeah seems most of the fanbase is pro-Sena and that's just going to increase with the next episode.... just reading this thread since Episode 2 aired and it seems a lot of anime only viewers converted already.. more to come!

and god damn Yozora... da-da-da dat ass....

The official Haganai twitter has just mentioned that the Haganai novels have sold over 3.5 million copies total and the average sales per volume is second only to Haruhi.

http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-3963.html

Can't wait to see what happens when the anime starts.

Man this really makes no sense to me... either Oricon is really fucking off or light novel companies work their figures just as much as video game companies. As you can see by last weeks light novel charts there's no way that Hagani has sold 3.5 million copies, at least according to Oricon. Let's say the first 6 volumes did 265k and that vol 7's total is 200k, that's still only 1.7 million copies which is less than half of what they're claiming to have sold....

Light Novels
*1, 35,636 157,186 Onimonogatari
*7, 13,083 138,851 Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai vol.7 (the S.E with Yozora cover and OVA sold quite a bit as well)
*8, 12,492 *12,492 Kyoukai Senjou no Horizon vol.4 Part 2
12, *8,489 265,258 Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai vol.1

So Hagani Vol 1 sold another 8.5k after the first volume, wonder if it will pull a DRR, Baka Test, Bakemonogatari and Infinite Stratos and start to have multiple volumes doing near 10k for the next 10 weeks. Anyway going by these Oricon figures Hagani Vol 1 will probably get close to 400,000 copies sold after the anime effect is done, pretty damn top tier and I think more than any Index, DRR, Baka Test novel has done. Still 250k+ before the anime aired is fucking amazing... DRR and Baka Test couldn't even break 50k prior to an anime... than they went on to sell volumes with over 300k sold...

Also looking @ the anime preorders I think OreImo's sales would be the absolute ceiling for Hagani, I've read quite a bit of the manga and I feel the first two episodes are among some of the stronger material... though next episode is great too for Sena fans.

ookamigirl

2011-10-16, 08:51

Nice promo for PSP and Monster Hunter game. Well, at least they were kinda bonding.
It was really funny watching them clobber each other. Those girls have some issues ^^"
The second game was...well...not a good choice either, but it was more funny.
Nice and fun episode.

Solafighter

2011-10-16, 10:05

The OP is better, than i thought.
Sena is lovely. ;)

DragoonKain3

2011-10-16, 10:23

Yeah seems most of the fanbase is pro-Sena and that's just going to increase with the next episode.... just reading this thread since Episode 2 aired and it seems a lot of anime only viewers converted already.. more to come!

Pro-Sena? I dunno man, all I saw last few pages were more pro-yuri than anything. :heh:

For myself, I personally love Yozora's aesthetics (zettai ryouiki :drools: ), but shipping wise still pretty much undecided. So while I want to join in the gushing and squeeing, still have no clue on the supposed childhood friend character, as neither Yozora nor Sena recognize Kodaka and Kodaka doesn't recall either. Need to watch more, might be other characters...

That said, I still love this series because it's actually, well, funny! Was loling the entire episode, and I haven't done this since BakaTest. Good to have another comedy series I can actually laugh at.

~Yami~

2011-10-16, 11:08

omg.... am I just witnessing the birth of a hardcore galge-gamer??? xD
welcome to the club, Semopunume-san... lol

It's very hilarous in episode 2... although I need some MonHun's reference from my friends....

Yukiko Nagata??? Playing state portable???looool!!!!

Candyshark

2011-10-16, 11:56

That focus on backsides reminds me of flipping through some black brother magazines. So much booty. Even after reading manga ad translated novels i find anime version very entetaining.

mangatron

2011-10-16, 15:43

still have no clue on the supposed childhood friend character.

Well just stick around, since it seems to happen next ep, you don't even have to wait long :p
*prepares for a DragooKain post full of glee on Thursday*

Shimapan

2011-10-16, 18:31

Hideyoshi's power is that every guy wants to believe he's a girl.

You'll never get that from Kodaka, hell nobody even thinks of him as anything short of a monster.

Perhaps the club brings out Kodaka's feminine side, with the aim that others won't fear him that much then anymore.

If you're really that desperate for Hideyoshi in this show, just wait a little bit more, there's someone who you really don't have to stretch your imagination that fits perfectly.

I'm not desperate for a Hideyoshi (I don't really care), I just pointed out some similarities.

Itlandm

2011-10-16, 18:47

Episode 2 did a great job showing why these girls have no friends.

Sena looks Scandinavian rather than Japanese. She is not very different from some of the women where I live, but strikingly different from Japanese teenagers. Perhaps both her father and his father again married Scandinavian women? Marrying foreigners is a kind of taboo in Japan, I hear, but then she does not seem to come from a very traditional family, what with them being Christians and all.

The "wardrobe malfunctions" seemed strangely out of place. If you are going to only have one or two exposures of skin that is normally covered up, why not just drop that part entirely so people can see it together with family or friends without embareassment?

demonkevy666

2011-10-16, 19:12

These two have no friends cause their standards are too high.

Shimapan

2011-10-16, 19:21

Marrying foreigners is a kind of taboo in Japan, I hear, but then she does not seem to come from a very traditional family, what with them being Christians and all.

lolwut? Christians? Where do you take this absurd insinuation from? It's never mentioned that they are.
Just because they go to what looks like a possibly Christian school doesn't make them Christians by a long shot.
The amount of Christians in Japan is below 1%. If a Christian school took only Christian pupils, it could close down right away.

Sumeragi

2011-10-16, 21:46

Malkuth

2011-10-16, 21:51

Do only Catholics go to private Catholic schools? That's the answer to your question.

Nope, there are also many sadists that want their kids to suffer :p

Marcus H.

2011-10-16, 21:52

I kinda cringed at Sena and Yozora in this episode, especially when they showed a really repulsive personality on the visual novel part. The Monster Hunter part is awesome though, especially when Yozora hums "Ride of the Valkyries" while preparing to blast Sena into victory.

2011-10-16, 22:04

@Flame Haze
are you sure you took Sena's measurements correctly? don't you think she became bigger :heh:
Don't blame me; blame the fanartist! :heh:

As for the Christian question, well, I think Yozora and Sena worship themselves. lol I go to a Christian school, and it's nothing like theirs.

relentlessflame

2011-10-16, 22:27

Guys, please avoid giving hints about what's going to happen based on the source material, even if it's under the guise of "helping people avoid disappointment". Deleted some posts.

molitar

2011-10-16, 22:33

Ok.. first of all what the heck does the tag (CR) mean? I imagine (L) is for loli. Second I will have to watch one more episode but so far I find this show totally annoying. If I was the guy I would just quit.. They want friends but they hate each other... If I was that guy I would stop showing up to the club at all.. With friends like that who needs enemies is no truer saying. In this sense with friends like that who needs friends.

Marcus H.

2011-10-16, 22:37

(CR) means that it is licensed by Crunchyroll, and (L) is licensed by other companies.
As for Kodaka, yeah, he has some patience handling these two. :heh:

Chaos2Frozen

2011-10-16, 22:40

Duo Maxwell

2011-10-16, 22:43

hyperborealis

2011-10-16, 23:12

frubam

2011-10-16, 23:39

Could someone explain why the topic and manga is "Boku wa" and the translation and shortened name is from "Boku Ha"[Haganai]?

Klashikari

2011-10-16, 23:45

That's because the hiragana は is pronunced "wa" only when used as a particle. If it isn't, it should be read as "ha" no matter if it was initially referring to the particle.

Malkuth

2011-10-16, 23:48

Could someone explain why the topic and manga is "Boku wa" and the translation and shortened name is from "Boku Ha"[Haganai]?

they used the writing, not the vocalization... I don't think it's anything more than that... but it puzzled me too (totally unnecessarily) for quite some time :heh:

Oh! and tomorrow I think it's my mistress' birthday (http://anidb.net/perl-bin/animedb.pl?show=character&charid=32432)... I have to rush and finish her present for pixiv (totally NSFW, forum, or the naive-minded) :rolleyes:

Edit: ... and she has yet to make a proper appears, poor oujo-sama :(

zeniselv

2011-10-17, 00:09

Could someone explain why the topic and manga is "Boku wa" and the translation and shortened name is from "Boku Ha"[Haganai]?

it uses the hiragana from the title, if you have no knowledge or interest in the lenguage its just the moonerunes that are simplier thant the kanji(harder/true moonrunes,there are thousands of them) and the title goes "Boku wa tomodachi ga sukunai", the wa is written with the ha hiragana, so its proununced/written different in the title, take it as a silent letter in english.

FateAnomaly

2011-10-17, 04:38

As i watch this i can't help but feel that Sena + Yoroza = Haruhi without the superpower.

I wonder why does Kodaka dress like that when he doesn't want people to think he is a delinquent.

Chaos2Frozen

2011-10-17, 04:44

As i watch this i can't help but feel that Sena + Yoroza = Haruhi without the superpower.

Haruhi isn't rich 0_0

I wonder why does Kodaka dress like that when he doesn't want people to think he is a delinquent.

He wanted to appear causal, easy-going and approachable because that's how it was in his previous school, but as you probably noticed it has the direct opposite effect on this 'wholesome' private school.

Again, it's another case of "thinking too damn much".

TakezoMusashi

2011-10-17, 09:22

As i watch this i can't help but feel that Sena + Yoroza = Haruhi without the superpower.

Haruhi also never displayed an interest in games beyond that one competition.
Haruhi was also not intentionally mean while Yozora totally is.

Kanon

2011-10-17, 09:57

Sena and Yozora's constant cat-fighting is just plain hilarious. We have all the makings of a faux harem show where the girls could hardly care less about the guy and instead would rather go after each other hammer and tongs. Here's hoping we get a yuri conclusion where they ditch Kodaka and go off with each other instead. So far this show is turning out to be a terrific satire on dishwater-dull harem comedies.

I've been yearning for a harem anime to end this way for ages. It's be bloody amazing if it ended this way, Haganai's a satirical harem show so such a conclusion wouldn't be out of place at all. Sadly, something tells me that's not where I'm going to find this kind of ending.

I wonder why nobody's ever done this before (Utena had a similar ending, but it wasn't a harem show). Maybe I just didn't watch the right series?

Candyshark

2011-10-17, 11:53

Wow check this delete streak.
Yuri ending is wishful thinking but some bits have high probability to appear. /takes off glasses.

I just love how by second episode it was portraited what kind of friend each character wishes for. Yozora with her air friend longs for ONE TRUE friend. Sena with her complete immersion in galge a bunch of cute girls she can have fun with. Kodaka I guess any will do for him. We saw how his attempt to strike a conversation failed so whether he wants or not he is back to the starting point. It might be the reason why they don't really see each other as potential friends.

On the side note I find it amusing how they all aware of their "abnormality" and differ between "normals" and themselves.

Chaos2Frozen

2011-10-17, 16:54

I've been yearning for a harem anime to end this way for ages. It's be bloody amazing if it ended this way, Haganai's a satirical harem show so such a conclusion wouldn't be out of place at all. Sadly, something tells me that's not where I'm going to find this kind of ending.

I wonder why nobody's ever done this before (Utena had a similar ending, but it wasn't a harem show). Maybe I just didn't watch the right series?

Even more brilliant would be a yuri anime that have the girl running off with a guy don't you think :p ?

Itlandm

2011-10-17, 17:37

lolwut? Christians? Where do you take this absurd insinuation from? It's never mentioned that they are.
Just because they go to what looks like a possibly Christian school doesn't make them Christians by a long shot.
The amount of Christians in Japan is below 1%. If a Christian school took only Christian pupils, it could close down right away.

I believe it was mentioned that Sena was actually the daughter of the headmaster? I find it almost certain that a Catholic school - especially one outfitted with this amount of religious imagery - would recruit their headmaster from the Christian minority if at all possible. It would probably not hurt if he had a European wife and perhaps a European mother as well, who were raised Christian (at least in name). This would conveniently explain why Sena barely looks Japanese at all, less so than Kodaka who we know is half British.

Shimapan

2011-10-17, 19:17

Nope, there are also many sadists that want their kids to suffer :p

Yes, there surely are vicous parents which like to have their children suffer there :heh:

While the school I went to ("Gymnasium", which is an integrated middle school and high school) really wasn't very good, I always said to myself: "It could've been worse. It could've been a Catholic school. Now that would've been hell."

Could someone explain why the topic and manga is "Boku wa" and the translation and shortened name is from "Boku Ha"[Haganai]?

While the particle is written with the hiragana for "ha", it's always pronounced "wa" when used as a particle, which is why it's generally transcribed as "wa".

I believe it was mentioned that Sena was actually the daughter of the headmaster? I find it almost certain that a Catholic school - especially one outfitted with this amount of religious imagery - would recruit their headmaster from the Christian minority if at all possible. It would probably not hurt if he had a European wife and perhaps a European mother as well, who were raised Christian (at least in name). This would conveniently explain why Sena barely looks Japanese at all, less so than Kodaka who we know is half British.

Those are just baseless assumptions. While the school does have some imagery which looked Christian-like, we didn't see a single cross anywhere. Thus, I'd say it's highly unlikely it's a Catholic school. If the school is Christian at all (it nowhere says on the official page that it is), then it's most likely a school of some obscure Christian sect.
There's only the name of the school given, "St. Chronica". There's no Christian saint by the name of "Chronica", a further distinct evidence that it's no Catholic school, because it wouldn't be named after a fantasy saint then.

Sheba

2011-10-17, 20:13

Even more brilliant would be a yuri anime that have the girl running off with a guy don't you think :p ?
Delicious troll ending it would be.

I can't understand the wishes for a yuri end in BokuTomo, I mean it is NOT like Kodoka is unlikeable like many harem (or many girls + one guy setup) anime leads are, and I honestly find the conflictual, to be polite, and antagonistic character chemistry between Yozora and Sena to be much more appealing.

Sumeragi

2011-10-17, 20:26

Those are just baseless assumptions. While the school does have some imagery which looked Christian-like, we didn't see a single cross anywhere.
Crosses aren't as common in Catholic schools as in Protestant schools in Japan.

Thus, I'd say it's highly unlikely it's a Catholic school. If the school is Christian at all (it nowhere says on the official page that it is), then it's most likely a school of some obscure Christian sect.
Private Christian high schools in a Japanese setting (as opposed to the international schools) are almost exclusively Catholic, since that's the only Christian branch that has the financial power to run a fully private school. An obscure sect would either not be accepted or absorbed completely into Shinto.

There's only the name of the school given, "St. Chronica". There's no Christian saint by the name of "Chronica", a further distinct evidence that it's no Catholic school, because it wouldn't be named after a fantasy saint then.
I can see two reasons for this:

1. Obviously, the author made up a saint due to lack of research
2. The author tried not to offend anyone by using an actual saint's name.

Delicious troll ending it would be.

I can't understand the wishes for a yuri end in BokuTomo, I mean it is NOT like Kodoka is unlikeable like many harem (or many girls + one guy setup) anime leads are, and I honestly find the conflictual, to be polite, and antagonistic character chemistry between Yozora and Sena to be much more appealing.
1. Those two just work together. I mean, both are shrews in their own ways, and opposite attracts
2. Blond + Black = High chemistry.
3. Personal: See my member title.

Chaos2Frozen

2011-10-17, 20:45

Delicious troll ending it would be.

I noe rite? Not many people get that :p

I can't understand the wishes for a yuri end in BokuTomo, I mean it is NOT like Kodoka is unlikeable like many harem (or many girls + one guy setup) anime leads are, and I honestly find the conflictual, to be polite, and antagonistic character chemistry between Yozora and Sena to be much more appealing.

Poor Kodaka, sometimes it's like they don't even remember... 0_0

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4145/114411.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/114411.jpg/)

Oh wait, forgot something...

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5439/32873l.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/32873l.jpg/)

TakezoMusashi

2011-10-17, 20:51

Poor Kodaka, sometimes it's like they don't even remember... 0_0

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/4145/114411.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/440/114411.jpg/)

Oh wait, forgot something...

http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5439/32873l.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/585/32873l.jpg/)

Ouch, thats gotta hurt.:heh:

Well I guess the creators know exactly what most viewers are here to see.

FateAnomaly

2011-10-17, 20:56

If only a few more shows know that.

Kanon

2011-10-18, 04:33

Even more brilliant would be a yuri anime that have the girl running off with a guy don't you think :p ?

Brilliantly rage worthy, sure :p
I've had my share of that in doujins...

Delicious troll ending it would be.

I can't understand the wishes for a yuri end in BokuTomo, I mean it is NOT like Kodoka is unlikeable like many harem (or many girls + one guy setup) anime leads are, and I honestly find the conflictual, to be polite, and antagonistic character chemistry between Yozora and Sena to be much more appealing.

You seem to understand just fine, actually. Kodoka is not bad but he's not interesting either. Who cares if he ends up with a girl or not? The appeal of the series is Yozora and Sena's antagonistic relationship (so far) and having it end with the two of them having angry sex would be glorious. They remind me of the tsundere couple in YuruYuri.

Chaos2Frozen

2011-10-18, 04:50

Brilliantly rage worthy, sure :p
I've had my share of that in doujins...

Base on my experience, Yuri fans are more prone to atomic-rage :cool:

For maximum troll!

You seem to understand just fine, actually. Kodoka is not bad but he's not interesting either. Who cares if he ends up with a girl or not? The appeal of the series is Yozora and Sena's antagonistic relationship (so far) and having it end with the two of them having angry sex would be glorious. They remind me of the tsundere couple in YuruYuri.

At this point it's more like "Which girl do you want happy?"

What Kodaka needs is a quirk, something that makes him abnormal and unique to a certain degree. He has that in his misunderstood-gangster-style-behavior and I strongly believe they should play that card more often.

Actually I don't think it's really his fault, it's just that the rest of the cast are too crazy special that he needs to do more to get recognition.

mangatron

2011-10-18, 05:05

Yuri talk in my friendship anime? Man I miss those harem interjections back when the series started. And Rika didn't even show up yet.

At this rate you guys are going to ship Maria with Kobato :uhoh::heh: (/prediction mode)

Heck, we've only been exposed to 3 of the characters so far, and this is what this thread's come to? How about that pool segment next ep? Maybe that'll ingite some Kodaka X Sena :heh:

Well actually next ep should put to rest the whole Yozora X Sena thing going on now :heh:

Oh, and you guys were wondering what's Kodaka's standout trait?

Nothing.:heh:

Oh you know, at least he's not weak, or indecisive, he did not have his love interests move in with him, how about this, he hasn't tripped and grabbed a girls breasts. Oh and he doesn't get hit by the girls and he most certainly does not have that typical ero male friend.

And that, my friends, is what makes him unique. An anime with 1 guy, 6 girls, and so far they don't even realize he exists for the most part.
:heh:
*runs*

Malkuth

2011-10-18, 05:39

You want enraged yuri fungirls and funboys... Zettai Shoujo Seiiki Amnesain by Kaishaku :p

Yuri talk in my friendship anime? Man I miss those harem interjections back when the series started. And Rika didn't even show up yet.

At this rate you guys are going to ship Maria with Kobato :uhoh::heh: (/prediction mode)

I approve this coupling... my Kobato (happy birthday, in between) turns into a lolicon yuri :heh:

Heck, we've only been exposed to 3 of the characters so far, and this is what this thread's come to? How about that pool segment next ep? Maybe that'll ingite some Kodaka X Sena :heh:

Well actually next ep should put to rest the whole Yozora X Sena thing going on now :heh:

Pool episode? One of the few non-Kobato chapters that I read from the manga... I hope they do better in the anime :uhoh:

Oh, and you guys were wondering what's Kodaka's standout trait?

Nothing.:heh:

Oh you know, at least he's not weak, or indecisive, he did not have his love interests move in with him, how about this, he hasn't tripped and grabbed a girls breasts. Oh and he doesn't get hit by the girls and he most certainly does not have that typical ero male friend.

And that, my friends, is what makes him unique. An anime with 1 guy, 6 girls, and so far they don't even realize he exists for the most part.
:heh:
*runs*

Well, to his defense I must add that he is just a nice guy that tries to hard and is constantly misunderstood (due to his appearance). And that also highlights how fucked up characters the girls have, as well as how they will begin to like him, despite their apparent indifference. And you know, it makes perfect sense, unlike most (not all) harem shows.

Duo Maxwell

2011-10-18, 06:28

And that, my friends, is what makes him unique. An anime with 1 guy, 6 girls, and so far they don't even realize he exists for the most part.
:heh:
*runs*

At least we do :p.
You always need a sane one inside the madness to keep everything from blowing up.

Beside, he's likable so far, and it doesn't make us feel bitter when pairing a girl with him.

Cosmic Eagle

2011-10-18, 06:37

Yes, there surely are vicous parents which like to have their children suffer there :heh:

While the school I went to ("Gymnasium", which is an integrated middle school and high school) really wasn't very good, I always said to myself: "It could've been worse. It could've been a Catholic school. Now that would've been hell."

Aww....Catholic schools aren't that bad....I should know....

mangatron

2011-10-18, 07:15

I approve this coupling... my Kobato (happy birthday, in between) turns into a lolicon yuri :heh:

I'm... somewhat regretting what I said. :heh: Well, half of it anyways :p

But forget the teenagers, how about these 2 kids going at each other :heh:

Pool episode? One of the few non-Kobato chapters that I read from the manga... I hope they do better in the anime :uhoh:

Well this series seems to like fitting 2 segments per ep, so I'm hoping the pool part gets the better half :p

Well, to his defense I must add that he is just a nice guy that tries to hard and is constantly misunderstood (due to his appearance). And that also highlights how fucked up characters the girls have, as well as how they will begin to like him, despite their apparent indifference. And you know, it makes perfect sense, unlike most (not all) harem shows.

Beside, he's likable so far, and it doesn't make us feel bitter when pairing a girl with him.

Hmm, true. I for one feel that if this series ever does end up as a harem, I truly believe I won't be raging early like in harem series of old :D

That sounds like a good idea, actually. 1 guy inbetween 2 girls, them going at each others throat, and so play the referee and be a mediator between the girls, which eventually they'll warm up to your neutrality in sides, and you get both girls at once :heh:

Oh wait... that's actually how a doujin kinda ended up as :heh:

Chaos2Frozen

2011-10-18, 07:29

Oh, and you guys were wondering what's Kodaka's standout trait?

Nothing.:heh:

Oh you know, at least he's not weak, or indecisive, he did not have his love interests move in with him, how about this, he hasn't tripped and grabbed a girls breasts. Oh and he doesn't get hit by the girls and he most certainly does not have that typical ero male friend.

And that, my friends, is what makes him unique. An anime with 1 guy, 6 girls, and so far they don't even realize he exists for the most part.
:heh:
*runs*

You of all people should know how common those things are starting to become :p :heh:

You want enraged yuri fungirls and funboys... Zettai Shoujo Seiiki Amnesain by Kaishaku :p

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind ;)

Well, to his defense I must add that he is just a nice guy that tries to hard and is constantly misunderstood (due to his appearance). And that also highlights how fucked up characters the girls have, as well as how they will begin to like him, despite their apparent indifference. And you know, it makes perfect sense, unlike most (not all) harem shows.

This being only the second episode, it's too early to say- but I hope he gets to stand out more than just the straight man in all the jokes... Hell, even if that's all he does at least make it very entertaining like Kyon or Niwa.

At least we do :p.
You always need a sane one inside the madness to keep everything from blowing up.

Hmmm, not necessary any more. In Working'!! everybody has some kind of screw loose, but everybody can be someone else's straight man :)

Eccentric lead protagonists adds to the fun imo, otherwise they feel like an outside observer and would not get included into promo pictures :p

jdennis007

2011-10-18, 07:49

I like the idea of yuri endings for the girls and him by himself, that would be epic.
Let me guess he is related to Akarin?
After seeing those 2 play the dating sim, I can see why they don't have many friends.

Duo Maxwell

2011-10-18, 07:54

This being only the second episode, it's too early to say- but I hope he gets to stand out more than just the straight man in all the jokes... Hell, even if that's all he does at least make it very entertaining like Kyon or Niwa.

I'm not sure about the entertaining part :heh:.

And this group is way far than "a screw loose".

Sheba

2011-10-18, 10:41

You seem to understand just fine, actually. Kodoka is not bad but he's not interesting either.

Just what do you need for him to be special? To me he is the normality in a sea of anormalities and potential sociopaths, almost like Kamiyama from Cromartie High.

Who cares if he ends up with a girl or not?
In despite of it being a friendship anime (at least, at first), I fucking do.

The appeal of the series is Yozora and Sena's antagonistic relationship (so far) and having it end with the two of them having angry sex would be glorious. They remind me of the tsundere couple in YuruYuri.
They are closer to sitcom archenemies.

Oh you know, at least he's not weak, or indecisive, he did not have his love interests move in with him, how about this, he hasn't tripped and grabbed a girls breasts. Oh and he doesn't get hit by the girls and he most certainly does not have that typical ero male friend.

And that, my friends, is what makes him unique. An anime with 1 guy, 6 girls, and so far they don't even realize he exists for the most part.
:heh:

This, one thousand time this. I am tired of the Keitarous or the Masaki Tenshis (*), so I like me some Kyon-like or Niwa Makoto and Kodaka.

(*) this one is much worse because he is secretly spesshul and a Godmoded Author Avatar, which insult my intelligence as someone who have learnt to appreciate stories since my first readings about the stories of Oedipus, and Tristan and Yseult, and Yvain Knight of the Lion.

Mahou

2011-10-18, 11:56

@Episode 2: Ouch, the sleep arrow + dynamite was quite the overkill :heh: I never cared about Monster Hunter, but their showdown in the lava world with each monsters "supporting" them was hilarious while Kodoka did the right choice and just farmed ores. The only part I wished was to also have classmates who play Visual Novels or JRPGs :D.

@Visual Novel part: Needlessly to say, I felt more sorry for the VN girl Akari than for Yozora's and Sena's utter fail to make friends. Fortunately, Sena was enlightened afterwards when she played it at home.

What else to say? Fanservice = *yawn* and none of the two are really that appealing to me right now as in getting me in "Fanboy" mode for her.

Kaioshin Sama

2011-10-18, 12:54

I was about ready to turn this off when I thought it was going to try and claim that Sena is just so perfect that she can ace an MMORPG with little time put in, but then we found out that she's just been grinding the crap out of the game cause she's probably so self-conscious about her image of being the best at everything. It was then that it became clear to me that these characters are all just ridiculous and the situation is mostly being played for laughs at the expense of every single one of them.

And there were some actual funny scenes, which is a rarity for these shows since I almost never find haremish comedy funny. I think it owes to some actual effort being put into the show though. For example the RPG gag is one that gets done to death a lot lately, but normally everything just goes chibi and Dragon Quest like, while here we got an extended segment of Sena and Yozora trying to one up each other in the fantasy setting to the obvious result of a game over. Are you telling me *gasp* the characters actually pay the consequences for their shortcomings and inabilities? :twitch:

Then of course there was the spoof on Dating Sims which also got it's own extended segment with the end result being Sena and Yozora getting lost in the game world and no longer being able to tell the difference between reality and the game. These two are just so socially inept that it was fun to watch them bumble around and just barely be able to accomplish anything together at the end. Also amusing was our male leads attempt to trade Pokemon with classmates and them viewing him as trying to extort them when in reality he's just being a bro. Seeing it from both points of view was pretty funny.

I'm just absolutely stunned that some actual effort went into the comedy and allowing for the visual side of things to make it work and that they weren't afraid to make a total laughing stock of these characters 2 episodes in for the sake of making that comedy work. There's no pretension towards keeping the characters idealized like I felt from shows like OreImo, which is a nice refresher. As a result I'll probably be sticking with this show until and if I get bored of it simply (hopefully) to see some of my least favorite character archetypes actually suffer the consequences of their incredible flaws.

User68604

2011-10-18, 14:17

Love the two main girls, but...is anyone else really looking forward to the loli's to come in? :x

Haak

2011-10-18, 14:28

I'll be hoenst, I'm already happy with things as they are now. This show is already great thanks to the main trio (especially Sena <3).

TakezoMusashi

2011-10-18, 14:46

I hope they introduce some of the other characters soon.

Archon_Wing

2011-10-18, 15:14

I'm just absolutely stunned that some actual effort went into the comedy and allowing for the visual side of things to make it work and that they weren't afraid to make a total laughing stock of these characters 2 episodes in for the sake of making that comedy work. There's no pretension towards keeping the characters idealized like I felt from shows like OreImo, which is a nice refresher. As a result I'll probably be sticking with this show until and if I get bored of it simply (hopefully) to see some of my least favorite character archetypes actually suffer the consequences of their incredible flaws.

Yay, you got the point of the show! But I guess we weren't really expecting this kind of effort from the writers; I myself was confident they'd ruin it soon enough.

But these kinds of things take a while to develop, so it's good that you gave it a chance, which is more than what I can say about people towards certain other series. ;)

TakezoMusashi

2011-10-18, 15:29

Consequences?
You mean now that Sena has an addiction to video games her grades will drop and she'll stop taking care of herself as well?:twitch:
Or will she continue to be perfect except she has no female friends?:confused:

Whats Kodaka's incredible flaw?
He seems to be quite nice if not a bit awkward.

Archon_Wing

2011-10-18, 15:31

Why yes, being addicted to video games and having nobody like you can't be healthy. :heh:

May end up having too much "meat"

Kaioshin Sama

2011-10-18, 15:33

Yay, you got the point of the show! But I guess we weren't really expecting this kind of effort from the writers; I myself was confident they'd ruin it soon enough.

But these kinds of things take a while to develop, so it's good that you gave it a chance, which is more than what I can say about people towards certain other series. ;)

We're still purely in cautiously optimistic territory here. Also still not sure if I liked the second episode on account of coming in with the lowest expectations possible and being surprised at some actual comedy or because it was actually genuinely just funny and well done.

Still being this far out of my element and still finding a show like this watchable 2 episodes in is a really rare occurrence. :uhoh:

Whats Kodaka's incredible flaw?
He seems to be quite nice if not a bit awkward.

Being a male in a Bishoujo anime.

Archon_Wing

2011-10-18, 15:50

We're still purely in cautiously optimistic territory here. Also still not sure if I liked the second episode on account of coming in with the lowest expectations possible and being surprised at some actual comedy or because it was actually genuinely just funny and well done.

Still being this far out of my element and still finding a show like this watchable 2 episodes in is a really rare occurrence. :uhoh:

The fact that you said "cautiously optimistic" is a good sign. I mean, as you know, that term doesn't exist in the internet fandom. It's either the best show ever, or the worst. :p After 2 episodes.

Kanon

2011-10-18, 16:25

Just what do you need for him to be special? To me he is the normality in a sea of anormalities and potential sociopaths, almost like Kamiyama from Cromartie High.

Kamiyama may appear to be normal, but he's actually as nuts as the rest of them.

Oh and don't take my reply to your post too seriously. I was (half) joking. Kodaka doesn't have anything to do with my wish for a yuri end. I just think it'd be a funny and fitting ending to a satirical comedy show like this one - that's assuming it remains a comedy that never takes itself seriously (unlike a lot of the people here, I have no knowledge of the source material or the manga). Oh and it might also be because I love yuri. Yeah, I think this is important.

Love the two main girls, but...is anyone else really looking forward to the loli's to come in? :x

You bet your ass I am. Make that loli (singular) though.

Shimapan

2011-10-18, 18:24

I can't understand the wishes for a yuri end in BokuTomo, I mean it is NOT like Kodoka is unlikeable like many harem (or many girls + one guy setup) anime leads are, and I honestly find the conflictual, to be polite, and antagonistic character chemistry between Yozora and Sena to be much more appealing.

A yuri ending here would be a novelty, but I don't see it happening.
I think it'll have some sort of open ending like Denpa Onna.
The main characters, as I see it, are Sena and Yozora, with Kodaka being just somehwat more than a sidekick.

Crosses aren't as common in Catholic schools as in Protestant schools in Japan.

There aren't any Christian schools which *don't* have plenty of crosses on display. Here, we have *none whatsoever*.

Private Christian high schools in a Japanese setting (as opposed to the international schools) are almost exclusively Catholic, since that's the only Christian branch that has the financial power to run a fully private school. An obscure sect would either not be accepted or absorbed completely into Shinto.

It's quite possible that the latter happened indeed, and that it originally was a Christian school, but then was assimilated into some other Japanese religious movement. That would also explain the complete absence of any crosses, which were then removed when it stopped being a Christian school.

I can see two reasons for this:

1. Obviously, the author made up a saint due to lack of research
2. The author tried not to offend anyone by using an actual saint's name.

I think it's rather that the author wanted to give the school some western flair, but not too much, and intentionally didn't make it a Christian school so as not to alienate any readers.

Sumeragi

2011-10-18, 18:35

There aren't any Christian schools which *don't* have plenty of crosses on display. Here, we have *none whatsoever*.
That's Germany, and if it's the south of the Weißwurstäquator.... well, we all know how Catholic that particular region is.

It's quite possible that the latter happened indeed, and that it originally was a Christian school, but then was assimilated into some other Japanese religious movement. That would also explain the complete absence of any crosses, which were then removed when it stopped being a Christian school.
Again, you're taking things too seriously. We're talking about a Catholic school run by Japanese in Japan. As I said, there aren't many crosses in schools over there in the first place, and when we're talking about a Japanese Catholic school run by Japanese, even if the headmaster are Catholic and such you can't expect there to be blatant numbers of crosses to be around the school.

I think it's rather that the author wanted to give the school some western flair, but not too much, and intentionally didn't make it a Christian school so as not to alienate any readers.
Readers wouldn't give a damn if it's a Christian school or not, as long as it isn't evangelist. The setting actually makes sense because among private schools, almost only the Catholic ones are affordable enough, since the others tend to be extremely elitist (like my high school back in Kyoto). That's a big reason why we often see Catholic schools as the setting: What kind of private school is affordable for the "general" population to attend? A Catholic one.

You need to think in the mindset of the Japanese for this to be comprehensible.

Nihokon

2011-10-18, 20:04

As long this show isn't going to experience a major downhill, this show will probably become my favorite for this season.

Saturn Beaver

2011-10-19, 03:45

I think it's rather that the author wanted to give the school some western flair, but not too much, and intentionally didn't make it a Christian school so as not to alienate any readers.

Call me cynical, but to be honest I thought the reason it's a Catholic school is so that they can have a loli nun as a part of the group later (as shown in the OP). Although to be fair, it's been established as a Catholic school before the nun appears, so maybe you're right as well.

risingstar3110

2011-10-19, 11:21

A yuri ending here would be a novelty, but I don't see it happening.
I think it'll have some sort of open ending like Denpa Onna.
The main characters, as I see it, are Sena and Yozora, with Kodaka being just somehwat more than a sidekick.
Would be in my dream if the usual anime audience complaint turns to be:

"The writer do not have balls to end the harem love triangle with a straight relationship, and chicken out with the yuri ending again..."

Kinda amusing to image all of the ending of harem/love-triangle anime that you ever watched, and put up a "watch if" scenario on a yuri ending....

Okashira

2011-10-19, 11:28

Call me cynical, but to be honest I thought the reason it's a Catholic school is so that they can have a loli nun as a part of the group later (as shown in the OP). Although to be fair, it's been established as a Catholic school before the nun appears, so maybe you're right as well.

It's pretty obvious that the school is a Catholic for the sake of having the biggest "what the heck" contrast with a mean looking delinquent. The nun is just a bonus.

Also thinking that the series is not "Kodaka centric" to some point argument and event wise is just silly. It's pretty obvious why Yozora doesn't want to get along with Sena from second one (and it becomes even more obvious later), oh well.

Let's put the yuri ending theories on hold until they properly animate "Sena's room" :heh::heh:

Sumeragi

2011-10-19, 11:40

Let's put the yuri ending theories on hold until they properly animate "Sena's room" :heh::heh:
I don't care for the ending theories: All I want is some nice yuri doujinshis :heh:

KLGChaos

2011-10-19, 12:20

My thoughts on the series so far.... has some funny moments and an interesting premise. Sadly, I can't stand either of the two main girls. Sena seems like she may start changing and may get better as the series goes on, but Yozora is just a bitch with no redeeming qualities and I doubt I'll ever like her character. Frankly, I don't think she should have any friends with the way she treats people. I guess I have a hard time finding people who treats others like dirt funny.

Itlandm

2011-10-19, 13:32

When I say Christian or Catholic school, I obviously mean the TV trope, not the actual religion as it exists here on Earth Prime. It has been firmly established in Japanese fiction that Catholic schools are havens of lesbianism, that priests and nuns tend to be underage and have superpowers or at least mad skills in weaponry and/or martial arts, as well as being very openminded on sexual matters even if personally chaste, at least technically.

It seems we shall be spared the priests with superpowers, but a severely underage nun is already in the wings, as it were. And that is about as realistic as a Japanese marrying a European, I'm sorry to say.

Sumeragi

2011-10-19, 13:53

And that is about as realistic as a Japanese marrying a European, I'm sorry to say.
My my, then that would be very realistic.

Yes, I was being serious.

You will give in to this!

http://hphotos-iad1.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/332513_2548373031324_1313762374_3028521_1386067979 _o.jpg
Oh yes, about that particular doujinshi..... the title is B.F.F. Meaning? "Best Friends Forever."

Rozen Van Kaizer

2011-10-19, 14:55

Too bad there hasn't been an anime with an official polygamy ending. [mod edit: removed ending spoilers for various other anime] Asking for a poly-ending is a little too greedy though and it's quite hard to create a plot that would still be believable and still keep the fans interested. Or at least not calling it the lazy way to end a love-triangle. I'm wishing for a poly or at least a yuri ending!

tyciol

2011-10-19, 18:14

So, the OVA is unlicensed then? Why would they do that? Can we also host commercial previews?

relentlessflame

2011-10-19, 19:03

So, the OVA is unlicensed then? Why would they do that? Well, at this point, they're streaming the TV show on the Internet, and they haven't announced the plans for the home media release, so it's too early to call I think (unless they said otherwise?). That being said, the OAD was a pack-in with the latest light novel, and really wasn't intended as a general series introduction for the general public, but more as an anime introduction for light novel readers. So it's possible that the rights for the OAD may not be tied to the TV anime at all, since it's connected to the novels. But like I said, I guess time will tell.

Can we also host commercial previews?I think official promos for the show can be posted, so long as you don't link to raws or fansubs of the show itself.

.:Jason:.

2011-10-19, 20:03

Wait, are their official streams/is there an official simulcast?

CrowKenobi

2011-10-19, 20:51

Wait, are their official streams/is there an official simulcast?Yup, NicoNico (http://www.niconico.com/) is going to be the official streamer (though it hasn't started yet). :D

relentlessflame

2011-10-19, 20:52

Wait, are their official streams/is there an official simulcast?According to ANN there will be (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2011-10-14/niconico-streams-shana-iii-future-diary-haganai-c3-maken-ki), though I have no idea when that'll be because it's not showing up on Niconico (http://www.niconico.com/anime/) yet.

Edit: too slow. :p

.:Jason:.

2011-10-19, 20:55

Thanks! I'll just wait for them then since I tend to favor official subs over fansubs anyways.

Miraluka

2011-10-20, 08:35

http://img4.imageshack.us/img4/5006/11799917113079file0.jpg

Aeshma

2011-10-20, 10:57

Those are too huge even for Sena.

Lord of Fire

2011-10-20, 11:49

Seems like Japan arrived at a "let's love girls with abnormally huge boobs" phase now. And Sena seems to be the token girl for that, judging by the various illustrations of her.

Aside from that, though, I must admit that she's growing on me. At the very least it's fun watching her fight with Yozoru, both in-game and outside of it.

risingstar3110

2011-10-20, 12:02

Probably was asked before, but how come the characters in this anime is awfully looks similar to Denpa Onna's character design?

Same LN illustrator? Same character design artist? This was not made by SHAFT in disguise, isn't it?

Sheba

2011-10-20, 12:05

Same original LN illustrator. Dem Lips.

Newprimus

2011-10-20, 14:07

ep3

The manga's version of the intro scene was better. :(

Midonin

2011-10-20, 14:26

That wasn't where I was expecting Blacksmith to pop up again. (Still a fan of Cecily, by the way.) Sena's experience is one that those deeply involved in nerdery (certain sects of it) can relate to. When one of those scenes approaches, you don't want people to catch you in the middle of it. I'll leave the ambiguity of that sentence for you to decode at your leisure.

While the tripartite dynamic of Sena/Yozora/Kodaka has provided some great laughs, seeing Sena split from the rest and the group dwindled to two was an interesting character study. There does seem to be a good person buried under that skin. That very flexible, protruding in just the right places ski- aaaaaand I'll stop there. The flashbacks to the past were some nice fleshing out of Kodaka too. Looks like he's not completely foreign to the idea of making friends, just having some bad fortune.

Mostly, I'm glad the cast got fleshed out over the course of this week and next. Kobato is even stranger than those two. What surprised me the most about her wasn't the vampire aspects, but how much she flaunted the censors. This is TBS, you never see panty shots because the network doesn't really allow them (but they can be implied), yet apparently her complete nakedness was okay. You didn't see anything, granted, but plenty was implied (enough for certain pixiv artists' imaginations to handle the rest.)

Looking forward to meeting the rest of the cast next week. The OP needs to have all its members assembled.

potchip

2011-10-20, 16:01

The story is taken too seriously in this one.. and what's with the cliche sound effects at the pool though...
Packed episode...Kodaka stole the show in comedy stakes yet again, unexpected.

Malkuth

2011-10-20, 16:05

Arghhhhh!!!!!!!!!

Still no Kobato :frustrated:

tsunade666

2011-10-20, 16:25

Episode 03 has Kobato but no Maria and Rika

I almost left in despair in episode 03 when they remove the ANCHAAN!!! scene of Kobato and Kodaka but it's a good thing that after the swimming event they insert that event and even the flashback event of Kodaka and a childhood friend of his.

Malkuth

2011-10-20, 16:37

OK, promising... I'll check the ep. tomorrow, but if Kobato does not appear, expect a raging bunny :p

blitz1/2

2011-10-20, 16:59

I think Kana Hanazawa is adjusting her voice to sound similar to Yuuki Aoi or something when Kobato is in that vampire persona.

felix

2011-10-20, 17:23

I am so not getting what the weirdness in the male lead is suppose to be. Aside from his attire he looks more normal then the so called normal people.

blitz1/2

2011-10-20, 17:27

I am so not getting what the weirdness in the male lead is suppose to be. Aside from his attire he looks more normal then the so called normal people.

It's his appearance and the rumours that spread during his first impression of class. THat's why he's isolated.

zeniselv

2011-10-20, 17:58

good episode but not great, some changes here an there but i actually think things make more sense this way, something thats really unappealing to me is the BGM also i feel it out of place lot of the times, but i quess things will get better with the full team.

they did a good job disguising the voice, but then yozora got too obvious, they should have been a little more discrete in that scene.

Klashikari

2011-10-20, 18:31

Episode 3 continue to follow closely the LN, and I'm quite satisfied how they kept the fine details with Sena, and how Kodaka isn't passive (I was afraid they would make the fanservice even more fullthrottle due to obvious reasons).
Meanwhile, Kobato's introduction sort of lacked of "something" (I guess few non chuuni quirks were absent here), but it was all good either way.

Of course, the special mention was how Sacred Blackstar remained unchanged... I wonder if Itou really didn't feel awkward with Sena's ero liners :heh:

ion475

2011-10-20, 19:15

Well, this finish (for the most part) Vol. 1, with the exception of introduction of Yukimura. Now we're finally moving onto Vol. 2, where the fun finally begin. At the end, though, the most important part of the episode is the last few minutes (before the ED) anyway...

On the voice part, HanaKana still haven't quite adjust back to Kuroneko mode, yet. But then, I can't really judged her when all she got to say is a bunch of one-liner this episode...

I am so not getting what the weirdness in the male lead is suppose to be. Aside from his attire he looks more normal then the so called normal people.

He's the tsukkomi of the series, which means he's actually quite normal with the exception of people fearing his look. So, it's quite normal that you don't find weirdness in him, b/c, he's not...

zeniselv

2011-10-20, 19:36

i think his weirdness is how kodaka stays normal/optimistic even after beign treated so roughly and many failures to have friends.

Dahak86

2011-10-20, 22:52

oh, an episode that actually caters to my tastes?

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--> not bad, but I know they can do better than this...

http://sadpanda.us/images/707938-7LY7SQB.gif <= lolwut? ... is this some kind of "new fanservice" I wasn't aware of? :heh:

- Sacred BlackStar... more like Sacred Blacksmith. :heh:

ars89

2011-10-20, 22:52

Lol at Sena playing an eroge. Kobato is now my favorite! Nice o see Kodaka teach Sena how to swim. He also looked bad-ass and got rid of those guys. Nice to see he had a true friend in the past. Oh man his friend was Yozara! Did she know it was Kodaka when he got into the school or did she just figure out it was him?

FlareKnight

2011-10-20, 23:13

A nice episode. Liked how Kodoka had some good moments. It wasn't a cliche of not being able to do anything and just looking tough, though his looks helped drive them off. But he stepped in, handled the first guy, and even got on Sena's case about picking a fight when they were already leaving. Definitely if she isn't careful could end up in a very dangerous situation. While you can't avoid everything no reason to outright start something.

Pretty easy swimming lessons for Kodoka to give. Sena's natural talents allow her to quickly pick things up. Nearly as fast as he is after a short amount of time. But not like she went into the water and started breaking Olympic records :). Some progress for Kodoka and Sena though. She has a guy around that will get angry with her if she does something stupid, but is also willing to step in and protect her.

The second we saw this 'old friend' I pretty much knew it was Yozora. Just seemed too easy. Guess the question is if she realized right away. Certainly hid things pretty well in that first encounter (not to mention the time they've been in the same class) if she knew all along.

Well there's a little sister that requires a bit of patience :heh:. Certainly a lot worse out there though.
oh, an episode that actually caters to my tastes?

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--> not bad, but I know they can do better than this...

http://sadpanda.us/images/707938-7LY7SQB.gif <= lolwut? ... is this some kind of "new fanservice" I wasn't aware of? :heh:

- Sacred BlackStar... more like Sacred Blacksmith. :heh:That's BlackStar for you, can end up in the title of a game he's not at all connected to :heh:. Though have to say I was thinking "oh so she's playing a Sacred Blacksmith eroge."

SilverSyko

2011-10-20, 23:40

Is Kobato naturally heterochromic? I'm assuming it's just a colored contact lens but I'm curious anyway. She's also kind of wimpy despite her facade. Just cold bath water making her panic and cry like that? Well I guess some folks like the vulnerable type.

They didn't miss an opportunity to show off Sena's body when it got to the pool scene. This series really likes the suggestive view angles. It's kind of forced, but at least it's tame.

And yeah, it's pretty easy to come to the conclusion the the kid Kodaka knew when he was younger is Yozora judging from her reaction. Just wondering why she liked dressing and acting as a boy when she was younger.

Anyway, this episode really increased the relationship these characters have with one another, both in the friend, family AND romance fields.~

http://sadpanda.us/images/707938-7LY7SQB.gif <= lolwut? ... is this some kind of "new fanservice" I wasn't aware of? :heh:

I actually gave a double-take when I saw that. What the hell? :heh:

I assume she was holding in her gut for some reason. Or maybe they were doing a satire of Gainaxing. Either way I wouldn't say it's actual fanservice unless people have a stomach fetish. :heh:

Tenchi Ryu

2011-10-20, 23:48

This is definitely shaping up to be a very good series. Not as much comedy, but definitely some good development. Like how he has pretty normal reactions to stuff, not the usual MC scared of everything disease.....

The girls are also very likable in their own ways.

Forsaken_Infinity

2011-10-20, 23:50

I actually gave a double-take when I saw that. What the hell? :heh:

I assume she was holding in her gut for some reason. Or maybe they were doing a satire of Gainaxing. Either way I wouldn't say it's actual fanservice unless people have a stomach fetish. :heh:
Think they were trying to play on the fact that Sena doesn't lack meat with that one.

This episode was a god damn goldmine. Awesome stuff all around.

Reading out those eroge lines - especially with the focus being on the fact that they are downright impossible to read out aloud without being embarrassed must have been hella embarrassing :heh:

The best part about the episode was definitely Kodaka man-ing it up though. Not only does he know how to use his looks to his advantage if needed - he actually can hold up to the image too. Cool.

Chaos2Frozen

2011-10-20, 23:52

If last week was a taste of the two main heroine's eccentricity, this week has a more 'serious' tone with Kodaka reminiscing the past and that one quote that stuck with him since then, but that's not really as important as seeing the flag raised for both girls this episode :p And unlike last episode, I think this week's did justice to both Light Novel and Manga imo :) though the blackstar scene was strangely more explicit in those two previous media :eyespin:

For some reason even though I knew it was Hanazawa voicing Kobato, I really wanted to hear Ayana Taketatsu doing her role :p I think it would had been awesome when she goes up against Maria later :cool:

Utsuro no Hako

2011-10-21, 00:31

I've been worried about how they're going to handle some of the raunchier material, but this puts me at ease. While they did town down Sacred Blackstar a bit, they made up for it with Yozora's insults.

The episode was a bit rushed (they fit in at least three chapters as reckoned by the manga), but that's okay because it means we'll finally see the rest of the cast next week.

lightsenshi

2011-10-21, 00:42

I love this series, I haven't laughed so hard in months. :D

Atrum023

2011-10-21, 00:44

Yeah same here. Seriously loved the Monster Hunter scene they showed in episode two. That had me rewatching the scene over and over again just to scrutinize every single detail.

That said, I can't wait to see the next episode (well, I'm still waiting for it to get translated and get to a place that actually allows me to use the internet wit little restrictions...).

Reckoner

2011-10-21, 00:46

Been enjoying this quite a bit more than I expected so far. Episode 3 provided some really nice character building that I wasn't quite expecting. I really love seeing Kodoka as a male lead in this type of show, someone who isn't useless and actually is more like an actual guy. The character interactions have all been quite fun and there isn't a character I've hated so far.

As of episode 3 I can definitely say this is a keeper for the season.

Sumeragi

2011-10-21, 00:48

they made up for it with Yozora's insults.
Tell me about it. I think it was the first time in my life I heard "Real Dutch Wife" or "You'll make me pregnant" being used, moreover at a girl :heh:

TakezoMusashi

2011-10-21, 00:49

I really liked the third episode.
Finally got to see the first loli for real, now they just need to introduce the nun loli and I'll be happy.:)

Yozara was pretty nice as a kid.:twitch:

pseudonhym

2011-10-21, 01:27

Another interesting and funny episode. I finally see Index again... well... maybe not.

^
^
^
Heck... Yozora is nice... even as a teen. She's very interesting.

Guardian Enzo

2011-10-21, 01:29

I don't know why, but that shot of the monkey riding the pig was just hilarious to me. I couldn't stop laughing.:heh:

This show has a very weird, off-center, funhouse mirror sensibility. It's funny when it should be serious, serious when it should be funny and everything - even the fanservice - is just slightly odd. I like it a lot but I certainly haven't figured it out yet.

Judging by the preview it looks as if next episode we finally get the ensemble show I thought we were getting. Has AIC laid a trap for next week?

Archon_Wing

2011-10-21, 01:49

Good fanservice episode, except with his sister. Now that was completely unneeded. Though is it because of the same VA that Kobato used Kuroneko's lines. :heh:

So Sena needs to swim-- why? Her meatbags can float her. :p

So anyhow we weren't wasting our time, as we learned that Kodoka's actually a badass, and Sena found someone that won't just bow down to her, and that friendship speeches can be cool!

Also, lol @ the eroge readings. Yea, that's pretty much an accurate depiction.

And Yozora is that boy. lololol

Forsaken_Infinity

2011-10-21, 02:03

I don't know why, but that shot of the monkey riding the pig was just hilarious to me. I couldn't stop laughing.:heh:

Oh yeah, completely forgot to post about it. I watched it like ten times and couldn't stop laughing either. I still don't get what the idea was with that one. Just for kicks or was it actually serving some higher purpose, unthinkable as it is?

@Archon_Wing: You got a typo :D Yozora isn't meat and she already knew very well how to swim :p

Nvis

2011-10-21, 02:11

A shame that Kobato's debut got overshadowed by Sena in a bikini. :heh:

Archon_Wing

2011-10-21, 02:18

@Archon_Wing: You got a typo :D Yozora isn't meat and she already knew very well how to swim :p

Oh yea, I'll fix that. I should just refer to them as tits and ass from now on.

bakAnki

2011-10-21, 03:48

Daww, Kobato <3
http://i.imgur.com/vBUWG.jpg

Felt that the beginning wasn't that funny when Yozora pulled the earphone plug, Sena didn't look surprise or embarrass enough :\

So next will be Yukimura and Maria join episode? Though there was Rika (with her ahegao) too on preview.

He's the tsukkomi of the series, which means he's actually quite normal with the exception of people fearing his look. So, it's quite normal that you don't find weirdness in him, b/c, he's not...

He still has little bit of weirdness in him though, like on previous episode where he mad because the main character on the galge already has best friend but still want a fulfilling life :heh:

-Sho-

2011-10-21, 04:09

The Lucas x Cecile part was so hilarious :heh:
Kodoka stand like a good ML , he did a good job at the pool , also to scold Sena too.
Yozora , a childhood friend , not a surprise , childhood friend are almost everywhere.
Guess Yozora x Kodoka development will be slow.

Silverwyrm

2011-10-21, 04:30

Irenicus

2011-10-21, 04:45

The anime is so colorful. <3

It really brings the art to life. Combined that with excellent handling so far, and I'm having a lot of fun.

kimpleng

2011-10-21, 05:01

How about add some Lilies?
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9843/flowerneeded.jpg (http://img855.imageshack.us/i/flowerneeded.jpg/)

Sheba

2011-10-21, 05:06

At first, I laughed hard at Sena having her headphones pulled, so people can ehar the glorious eroge dialogue. I laughed more after she was forced to read the lines out loud. then come the swimming pool part. My respect for Kodoka cemented when he is shown that he is NOT useless. Then the part with the thugs give me more respect for him after we are shown that he is NOT spineless. He is like some fresh air in a genre plagued by the Loser Harem Leads that makes you wonder if the genre would not be better without them.

EroKing

2011-10-21, 05:26

Episode 3

Finally my favorite waifu Kobato is introduced. Anime version is pretty cute but didn't like them taking out some of her evil-looking faces from the manga.
Oh Kodaka, setting off flags with both Sena and Yozora in the same episode :heh:
Daww, Kobato <3
http://i.imgur.com/vBUWG.jpg

oh hey, he triggered Kobato's flag too probably before even the series had started? :heh:
Kodaka - Boku wa Tomodachi ga Sukunai, Koibito ga Ippai :heh:
How about add some Lilies?
http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/9843/flowerneeded.jpg (http://img855.imageshack.us/i/flowerneeded.jpg/)

lol here we go again...

Duo Maxwell

2011-10-21, 05:37

Cold water is a pretty typical vampire "weakness" though. or at least a deviation from one.

Kid actually scares of cold water, too.

felix

2011-10-21, 05:51

He is like some fresh air in a genre plagued by the Loser Harem Leads that makes you wonder if the genre would not be better without them.What you "would be"? Loser Harem Leads never added anything, and are hated by everyone, what is there to lose.

Kusa-San

2011-10-21, 05:52

Chaos2Frozen

2011-10-21, 07:04

My respect for Kodoka cemented when he is shown that he is NOT useless. Then the part with the thugs give me more respect for him after we are shown that he is NOT spineless. He is like some fresh air in a genre plagued by the Loser Harem Leads that makes you wonder if the genre would not be better without them.

Once again, you have no idea how many times I've heard this being said for EVERY RomCom show I've watched in the last two years :p

Oh eventually people will always find a reason to hate the NOT useless and the NOT spineless Harem Leads... This show is no exception I'll bet.

Kanon

2011-10-21, 07:06

Now we finally know why they chose Itou Kanae to voice Sena. They wanted to hear her say those raunchy lines out loud. Bless you, Haganai staff. That's probably as close as she'll ever get to voicing hentai. I very much enjoyed the scrumptious Sena/Itou Kanae fanservice this episode provided. Yozora couldn't have found a better nickname for her. So... much... meat (*´Д`)ﾊｧﾊｧ

Kodaka pleasantly surprised me. He's actually not as much of a doormat as I expected. He's pretty cool, in fact. I'm still going to hope Sena will end up with a girl rather than him nonetheless... her lusting after 2D girls gives fuel to my yuri fantasies.

& finally, Kobato's here! She's as adorable as I thought she'd be. Can't believe we already got to see her naked... man, that was fast :heh:

http://sadpanda.us/images/707938-7LY7SQB.gif <= lolwut? ... is this some kind of "new fanservice" I wasn't aware of? :heh:

That part made me raise my eyebrow too :eyebrow:

Is Kobato naturally heterochromic? I'm assuming it's just a colored contact lens but I'm curious anyway. She's also kind of wimpy despite her facade. Just cold bath water making her panic and cry like that? Well I guess some folks like the vulnerable type.

It seems like too much of a coincidence that her favorite character has exactly the same eyes as her, so I'm pretty sure she's wearing contacts. Then again, she might have started to idolize Resis precisely because she looked like her. I'm still going with contacts, though.

__________________________

Made another Kobato avatar which I'm most likely not going to use, so feel free to take it if you want to:

http://s1.postimage.org/1v3svdo04/kobato.gif (http://www.postimage.org/)

Marcus H.

2011-10-21, 07:27

http://i53.tinypic.com/e6402q.jpg

Haak

2011-10-21, 08:01

Loled at that Sacred Blacksmith reference. And Kobata seems to be a mini-Kuroneko.

Oh Senna, you are my dream girl. Naturally I loved this Senna focused episode. Though my hopes of SennaxKodoka were punctured when they revealed Yozuro was a childhood friend. Senna can't possibly win against that. :heh:

Mahou

2011-10-21, 08:41

Okay, this was for me the first episode that was really good. I find that Yozora was too harsh with her insult-bombing, sorry, but I didn't find it a single bit funny. Kudos to Sena for loving VNs :D! Heck, I play my VNs also with earplugs for the obvious reason :heh: Sena was generally a lot more likeable here than in the previous episodes. And no, I do not mean it in terms of fanservice/"meat".

@swimming pool: Kodoka with wet hairs looks quite different than his usual appearance, mainly due to how the hairs were "combed" backwards. It was well done how he protected Sena and the zoom-in with the darkening of the background to give him more intimidating power was cool. Her reaction to Kodoka's comment on wanting to meet her dad was to be expected ;)

@his sister: Uhm ... hard to really give my opinion yet. Roleplaying her favorite anime character at home is ... well ... unsual even in fiction. I feel empathy that she does not like onions *lol*. Seems okay so far.

Sides

2011-10-21, 09:05

And Yozora is that boy. lololol

So did she actually recognised him before she founded the club?
BTW, seeing the previewi guess the next member is a trap?

DragoonKain3

2011-10-21, 09:44

Okay, that settle it. Yozora ftw!

Kinda weird how the episode lead me on though. At first I thought childhood friend was Sena, because Kodaka don't remember much of his childhood AND their fathers being old friends...

...then boom, childhood friend with black hair who sounds suspiciously like male Natsuru from Kampfer. And the confirmation when she dropped the book thinking that Kodaka remembers her, now that he remembered the line about her mom in regards to making friends... man, the look she had was so MOE! :love:

All that said, Yozora/Kodaka reminds me a wee bit too much of Ukyo/Ranma... and we all know how that turned out. :heh:

So did she actually recognised him before she founded the club?

Possible explanation would be that she already knew it was him since the beginning of the year (they're in the same class after all), but with him having no clue it was her, she decided not to interact. So by the time she got 'caught' by Kodaka (which now I'm beginning to question if she was talking to her 'friend' on purpose to catch Kodaka's attention knowing his bag was still there), there was no 'recognition' to be had on both parties since Yozora already knew it was him while Kodaka has no clue she was the 'boy' from before.

And lols, I think what her mom told her backfired. By suggesting she makes friends that she cares 100x as much, her mom made Yozora have unexpectedly high standards for friends that she doesn't make any. XD

Sheba

2011-10-21, 09:57

Once again, you have no idea how many times I've heard this being said for EVERY RomCom show I've watched in the last two years :p

Oh eventually people will always find a reason to hate the NOT useless and the NOT spineless Harem Leads... This show is no exception I'll bet.
Ok.

How about he does not put the girl on a piedestal and is actually scolding her for doing stupid shit like he did after that incident?

Malkuth

2011-10-21, 10:52

Finally, Kobato got some screen-time :bow:

As for the mini.Kureneko comment, both Ruri and Kobato are goth-lolis pretending to be vampires from novels/shows they follow, and that is about what they have in common... my impression is that personality-wise they are VERY different.

By the way in the preview all three remaining members showed up, so I guess they will introduce them next week.

Back to the episode, however hard I laughed, felt really sorry for Sena while she was reading out loud the eroge lines... that Yozora, why so jealous :nono:

And a couple of things I did not like... the childhood friend scene was also that obvious in the novel and the manga? I really don't see the point, seems to cheesy :/

Also they did not animate Sena's outfit while going and returning to the pool... it was damn hot :love:

http://amenojaku.net/media/hotlink/2011_fall/manga_c009p001%20%28Sena%29.jpg

and felt sorry for the poor rich girl, accepting that nickname, being so afraid, and loving being scolded... that is a masochist in the making :rolleyes:

Cosmic Eagle

2011-10-21, 11:05

And this is where as a fellow eroge fan I become solidly behind Meat and anti-Bitch (AKA Yozora)

On another note....YAY KOBATO!!!

Kurogane no Necromancer and Sacred Blackstar both look rather fun...

larethian

2011-10-21, 11:18

And a couple of things I did not like... the childhood friend scene was also that obvious in the novel and the manga? I really don't see the point, seems to cheesy :/
By obvious, if you are referring to the 'childhood friend = Yozora' point, well, I don't know about the manga, but in the novel, during the flashback, of course it wasn't really obvious since there are no pictures. But the clubroom scene at the end was the same as the novel IIRC (plotwise, the adaptation has been quite faithful so far except for some reordering and skipped chapters for now), and because of what Yozora said, it was obvious that they are the same person even in the novels. That was the last chapter as a matter of fact, and when I read it, it seemed to be some sort of foreshadowing and imo, it was the author's way of telling the readers, "there's more to look forward to than just parodies and gags" in this series. That's the feeling I got, so it was a pretty nice way to end the volume.

I think this episode is currently the best adapted, better than the last one as the comedy value dropped in the MonHun part in the anime. Seems like from the preview, we're getting all the characters shown in the OP. Hope they also do the remaining skipped chapters in v1 which are pure comedy :heh:.

hyperborealis

2011-10-21, 11:36

Ok.

How about he does not put the girl on a piedestal and is actually scolding her for doing stupid shit like he did after that incident?

It's all wish fulfillment: boy has harem, boy is tough, boy tells off girl. Everything Kodaka did in the episode serves to produce the vicarious pleasure of a fantasy life precisely tuned to the young male viewer's insecurities and desires. In other words, the anime is manipulative. Since all of these fantasy elements have been repeated before, the anime is cliched, hackneyed.

Which is fine. That's entertainment. The harem comedy is an established genre, albeit a tired one, but we can ask how well the show does its job, whether there's anything interesting or original in the way it goes about serving up that vicarious pleasure.

So far, all the interest--and it is considerable--lies in the dynamic, crazy, and unexpected character interactions of Sena and Yozora. I see nothing--zero--distinctive that is related to Kodaka. So far he seems to act as a black hole of cliche, inexorably drawing the other, much more fresh characters, into the tired patterns of harem comedies.

Guardian Enzo

2011-10-21, 12:15

Regarding the Sena-belly bit, while all of the fanservice in that scene was interestingly off-kilter, I took that as showing us that she'd been holding in her gut because she wanted to look good for Kodaka.

Cosmic Eagle

2011-10-21, 12:15

christinemarie

2011-10-21, 14:59

Did I just see something nostalgic from Kimagure Orange Road in this week's episode? Madoka Ayukawa is back !! It appears Sacred Blacksmith is one of the highlights of this episode with Kobato the imouto voiced by Kana Hanazawa, didn't felt the voiced that much from her previous voiced roles.
After watching episode 3, this anime needs to be added in the popular series. I can't believe its not added there.

Made another Kobato avatar which I'm most likely not going to use, so feel free to take it if you want to:

http://s1.postimage.org/1v3svdo04/kobato.gif (http://www.postimage.org/)

Can I take these, thank you in advance. I just DOKI being an imouto.

Cyz

2011-10-21, 16:07

That's awesome. All Kodaka need was his blonde hair and his big forehead and a scary face to win over "thugs". Sena looks good in the swimsuit but hey I never thought it would be that skimpy. I guess she wasn't shy about showing off a few skins here and there. Oh, and I love the part where Sena was reading the erotic lines from the game :heh:. Guess that's too much for her.

creb

2011-10-21, 17:41

If there's one thing anime has taught me, it's that amnesia is about as common as the cold. :heh:

Anyways, not much to say other than too much Sena and not enough Yozora!

Flower

2011-10-21, 18:06

You know ... I actually liked ep 3 because there was some character development. I liked that Kodoka stood up to Sena, I liked that Sena was mature enough to take it and "benefit", I also liked that Yozora and Kodoka had met in the past and that colors Yozora's interactions with him.

Good ep. 7.5/10 vote from me.

I wonder how much of this element will be in future eps?

Guardian Enzo

2011-10-21, 18:09

Anyways, not much to say other than too much Sena and not enough Yozora!

This is not possible.

ion475

2011-10-21, 18:47

So far, all the interest--and it is considerable--lies in the dynamic, crazy, and unexpected character interactions of Sena and Yozora. I see nothing--zero--distinctive that is related to Kodaka. So far he seems to act as a black hole of cliche, inexorably drawing the other, much more fresh characters, into the tired patterns of harem comedies.

You'll have to wait until next or 2 more episode...Kodaka does have a personality (other than being a tsukkomi) and is not just yet another clueless harem lead male.

As for the mini.Kureneko comment, both Ruri and Kobato are goth-lolis pretending to be vampires from novels/shows they follow, and that is about what they have in common... my impression is that personality-wise they are VERY different.

It's just a joke since both are voiced by Hanazawa Kana and both are chuunibyo goth loli. Of course they're not the same (Kobato is a lot more chuuni than Ruri-chan anyway...)

Peanutbutter

2011-10-21, 18:55

That meat! :twitch:

I used to think such meat was kinda disgusting, but I wanna bite into Sena's meat. :heh:

zeniselv

2011-10-21, 19:23

If there's one thing anime has taught me, it's that amnesia is about as common as the cold. :heh:

Anyways, not much to say other than too much Sena and not enough Yozora!

well youre rigth but its a special kind of amnesia that only makes you forgot your childhood friend, with high chances that it will be the one most affected by you forgetting.

i agree i want more yozora...

TakezoMusashi

2011-10-21, 19:41

i want more yozora...

Me too... I thought she was the female lead.

hoarfrost

2011-10-21, 19:49

After this episode, to me everyone takes a back seat to Sena. Seriously, she's just the right mix of sociability, aggressiveness, and self consciousness. And she's a total nerd deep down. That's a winning combination.

Irenicus

2011-10-21, 19:55

Sena~ :3

If there's one thing anime has taught me, it's that amnesia is about as common as the cold.
It's not amnesia though. He just couldn't remember his childhood very well.

zeniselv

2011-10-21, 19:59

Me too... I thought she was the female lead.

she is, sena screen-time is just fanservice.

Irenicus

2011-10-21, 20:02

she is, sena screen-time is just fanservice.
Lies, damn lies, how dare --

*Ahem.*

It's a two heroine show, and a harem of sorts, if any of you are still wondering.

zeniselv

2011-10-21, 20:34

...ehr., i think that is the reason of "haganai +", but if i get more into this, admin is gonna delete my post , so im gonna leave it at that.

Marcus H.

2011-10-21, 20:49

Looks like the trap card is gonna be activated next week. :D

Kagayaki

2011-10-21, 20:50

It's all wish fulfillment: boy has harem, boy is tough, boy tells off girl. Everything Kodaka did in the episode serves to produce the vicarious pleasure of a fantasy life precisely tuned to the young male viewer's insecurities and desires. In other words, the anime is manipulative. Since all of these fantasy elements have been repeated before, the anime is cliched, hackneyed.

This seems accurate aside from the implication that there's some superior category of non-manipulative shows. I disagree. All anime (more generally, all works of commercial fiction) are manipulative. Some are masterfully subtle about it, and others are hamfisted, but they're all precisely tuned in an attempt to please a target audience.

My complaint with harem shows is that they aren't effective enough at being manipulative, because their efforts at manipulating me are far from subtle enough and are too often recycled. I'm probably somewhere in the target audience (I smiled when Sena and Yozora argued about the artistic merit of eroge since I've done that too), although I'm probably not squarely in the middle of that target, so some things in many harem shows feel misaimed from my point of view.

Which is fine. That's entertainment. The harem comedy is an established genre, albeit a tired one, but we can ask how well the show does its job, whether there's anything interesting or original in the way it goes about serving up that vicarious pleasure.

So far, all the interest--and it is considerable--lies in the dynamic, crazy, and unexpected character interactions of Sena and Yozora. I see nothing--zero--distinctive that is related to Kodaka. So far he seems to act as a black hole of cliche, inexorably drawing the other, much more fresh characters, into the tired patterns of harem comedies.

Agree. Harem leads get a bad rap for being boring, but the real problem with the standard harem show is that the lead creates some kind of plot-whirlpool around him that sucks all the other characters down into cliche. Sena and Yozora are the lifeblood of this show, and I hope they don't drown like that. I don't mind one unremarkable character as long as they don't make all the other characters suck.

That said, I've seen less interesting characters than Kodaka, and episode 3 was different enough in its execution of standard harem things that the harem-ness didn't kill my enjoyment. Despite the fact that Sena and Yozora feel the tug of Kodaka's "black hole", they're still getting good character development otherwise. Also, I like the character designs, which somehow feel more appropriate here than they did in Denpa. In my book, this show is doing a good job so far.