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For all we know Tatsumi might have already surpassed Bulat after this. His cross-shaped eye, now permanent, should be a hint.
I would say its OBVIOUS that he has surpass Bulat at this point, if Bulat was anywhere near this strong Esdeath would have been killed a long time ago.
Ravagerblade
2015-01-25, 21:17
Hmm, Esdeath is like a hotter and sexier version of Koko. ;)
From what I was seeing so far it seemed to be at first that the killing off of the NR members came to quickly to actually grow on them and then when the time came we'd get a much more shock and tugging the heart strings.
Tenzen12
2015-01-25, 22:19
And he got killed like an idiot because of that.
He could have simply sneak punched Mine out of the Dragon and... GG. Nobody was gonna stop him.
But he had to go all hammy...
Funny thing is Esdeath made same mistake as Budou (with enjoyment instead of rage) and survived because her oponent was "mere" Tatsumi. Both made same mistake but Budou died (if he died of course) because he lasted longer and hindered their escape while our ice queen was getting herself together in safe distance after single falcon punch.
TonyC1994
2015-01-26, 00:39
Well, the good news is that Mine's not really dead.
The bad news is that Mine's not really dead.
As annoying as it is that Budo went down, at least he didn't go down as easy as he did in the anime. :heh:
Considering that the Tyrant has Red eyes, does this make Tatsumi the Red-eyed killer? :eyespin:
dmaxzero
2015-01-26, 08:24
Akame also has red eyes. Unless specified by the author, it means nothing.
What? It took a combination of everyone AND a powered up Tatsumi to even weaken him. The Tatsumi in the manga at this point is much stronger than he was in the anime, plus even then Budo still had enough juice to take the whole team out were it not for Pumpkin's ability to increase its power the more danger Mien's in.
I feel the manga respected Budo much more than the anime.
His attitude throughout the whole fight was that of a noob rather than a hardened veteran that managed to climb to the highest rank of the military. He completely lost his temper which led him to use a big attack that depleted his reserves and didn't even hit anybody. Then he fell for a bluff from Mine. And finally, he completely forgot about the reason he even fell for the bluff in the first place and tried to overpower Pumpkin, without even bothering to check his energy reserves first. He was physically strong, but he apparently never learned how to use his head in a battle.
He might have been stronger than in the anime, but at the end of the day, he was made to look like a musclehead in the manga and couldn't even achieve result. At least he took Mine down with him in the anime. Better than nothing.
Randrak42
2015-01-26, 11:53
His attitude throughout the whole fight was that of a noob rather than a hardened veteran that managed to climb to the highest rank of the military. He completely lost his temper which led him to use a big attack that depleted his reserves and didn't even hit anybody. Then he fell for a bluff from Mine. And finally, he completely forgot about the reason he even fell for the bluff in the first place and tried to overpower Pumpkin, without even bothering to check his energy reserves first. He was physically strong, but he apparently never learned how to use his head in a battle.
He might have been stronger than in the anime, but at the end of the day, he was made to look like a musclehead in the manga and couldn't even achieve result. At least he took Mine down with him in the anime. Better than nothing.
And in the manga Mine is completely alright...oh wait.
He said it himself, both he and his armor have a nasty temper and the more NR fought him, the more pissed off he was going to be, the less he would think things through and rush on ahead. It's called having a character flaw, if Budo was a perfect clear headed guy with the same power he currently has then he would have absolutely destroyed NR, but he had a flaw and NR were smart enough to exploit it. The bluff was another flaw derived from lack of information, it went both ways as NR knew nothing about Budo's equipment either, Mine's style was just better suit at dealing with that discrepancy in information than Budo's straightforward style.
Well, Tatsumi is a badass
So the big question is: Is Esdeath really going to control her love for Tatsumi now???
RoyalZel
2015-01-26, 12:58
Well, Tatsumi is a badass
So the big question is: Is Esdeath really going to control her love for Tatsumi now???
I mentioned it before, but yes, I believe Esdeath will stop being so overly obessive over Tatsumi, and that the next time they meet, she will fight him seriously as a warrior and her "equal"
Budo's justice is flawed. The pig is the cause of the Empire's decline, citizens' hatred, and the revolution yet Budo want to quell the rebellion before killing the pig. He got his priorities in reverse. His character is flat, he would have more potential, but he failed.
Wandering Soul
2015-01-26, 18:56
At least Budo didn't go down as easily as he did in the anime. But seriously how many times during this fight did he say he was getting angry:heh:
Tenzen12
2015-01-26, 22:30
Budo's justice is flawed. The pig is the cause of the Empire's decline, citizens' hatred, and the revolution yet Budo want to quell the rebellion before killing the pig. He got his priorities in reverse. His character is flat, he would have more potential, but he failed.
Rebellion is more acute problem than PM. Actualy killing him right now would just make thing worse as he is real ruler of Empire.
FlareKnight
2015-01-26, 22:43
Despite all the talk of "well at least Budo didn't go down as easily" he still down in pretty well the same way. He lost the beam battle.
On the positive Mine is still in this world. She's in a bad state of course so it's not really a good situation. I suppose throwing all her energy through pumpkin as it was being obliterated like that was bad. At least there is hope of recovery, not great, but better than nothing. She's still there, Tatsumi will keep fighting for her sake and will see how things turn out.
Great chapter though. Excellent struggle and showing just how insanely hard it is to run away from all that.
Avrorrange
2015-01-26, 22:45
Rebellion is more acute problem than PM. Actualy killing him right now would just make thing worse as he is real ruler of Empire.
Killing him now will cause a three way war between the revolutionaries,Budou's forces and the cronies loyal to the PM.Although I must say though that if Budou had shown more initiative in protecting loyal military officers like Liver,a lot less military officers would have probably defected to the revolutionary army(a lot of them were apparently demoted,punished or otherwise sidelined by the PM).At any rate,is the Revolutionary Army's true aim a republic?I haven't read the series for a while.
Kenju of the Right
2015-01-26, 23:04
The word Jobber is thrown around way too much in here without knowing the meaning of the word
Fwarlord
2015-01-27, 10:15
Killing him now will cause a three way war between the revolutionaries,Budou's forces and the cronies loyal to the PM.Although I must say though that if Budou had shown more initiative in protecting loyal military officers like Liver,a lot less military officers would have probably defected to the revolutionary army(a lot of them were apparently demoted,punished or otherwise sidelined by the PM).At any rate,is the Revolutionary Army's true aim a republic?I haven't read the series for a while.
The RA's aim is just too vague, since we know almost nothing about them. All we know is that they want to make a "better country", but what kind of country they deem "better"? At this point, it looks like they're just like politicians in real life, promise smooth, comfortable things to win the masses' heart and mind without giving any actual detail. At this rate, even if they can take down the capital, they're still in a alliance with local feudal lords, those who won't accept a republic which will strip them off of power easily and the Path of Peace, those who clearly want a theocracy. If they're not careful, a bloody civil will break out.
Or the RA is just a plot of a super power to take down the PM because he didn't want to give them the empire's resources.:heh:
And in the manga Mine is completely alright...oh wait.
Please. You know exactly what I meant. There's a big difference between killing somebody and temporarily crippling her.
It's starting to look more likely the Great Lord's vision of Mine and Tatsumi he had has little to do with one of them dying.
It may not have to do with them dying but his words gave the impression that their relationship wouldn't have a happy outcome.
Avrorrange
2015-01-27, 11:07
The RA's aim is just too vague, since we know almost nothing about them. All we know is that they want to make a "better country", but what kind of country they deem "better"? At this point, it looks like they're just like politicians in real life, promise smooth, comfortable things to win the masses' heart and mind without giving any actual detail. At this rate, even if they can take down the capital, they're still in a alliance with local feudal lords, those who won't accept a republic which will strip them off of power easily and the Path of Peace, those who clearly want a theocracy. If they're not careful, a bloody civil will break out.
Or the RA is just a plot of a super power to take down the PM because he didn't want to give them the empire's resources.:heh:I really don't think executing the emperor like the anime did would be a good idea.Realistically,the emperor could have pushed alll the blame to the PM(Hirohito style),especially since he's a minor.I simply do not understand why Budou couldn't have allied himself with the RA to take down the PM under the condition that they keep the emperor(once again Hirohito style).I think it would have been a good deal for both the RA and Budou,if the RA's goal isn't to make a republic, considering the RA could have easily toppled the PM with Budou's forces.Not to mention,Budou was planning to purge the corrupt officials of the empire to begin with.
Tenzen12
2015-01-27, 11:09
The RA's aim is just too vague, since we know almost nothing about them. All we know is that they want to make a "better country", but what kind of country they deem "better"? At this point, it looks like they're just like politicians in real life, promise smooth, comfortable things to win the masses' heart and mind without giving any actual detail. At this rate, even if they can take down the capital, they're still in a alliance with local feudal lords, those who won't accept a republic which will strip them off of power easily and the Path of Peace, those who clearly want a theocracy. If they're not careful, a bloody civil will break out.
Or the RA is just a plot of a super power to take down the PM because he didn't want to give them the empire's resources.:heh:
RA are rebels who wants defeat regime of terror, general assumption is that ANYTHING has to be better than that. Even if they had idea what they want to do politicaly afterward, final result will be almost completely different anyway due huge amounts of compromises and practical issues.
Avrorrange
2015-01-27, 11:21
RA are rebels who wants defeat regime of terror, general assumption is that ANYTHING has to be better than that. Even if they had idea what they want to do politicaly afterward, final result will be almost completely different anyway due huge amounts of compromises and practical issues.
I highly doubt the RA will return all that territory to Mine's country or was the anime only?I mean,it includes the frigging capital and a massive chunk of land.The RA's popularity will evaporate overnight if they made such a deal public.
Fwarlord
2015-01-27, 11:31
I really don't think executing the emperor like the anime did would be a good idea.Realistically,the emperor could have pushed alll the blame to the PM(Hirohito style),especially since he's a minor.I simply do not understand why Budou couldn't have allied himself with the RA to take down the PM under the condition that they keep the emperor(once again Hirohito style).I think it would have been a good deal for both the RA and Budou,if the RA's goal isn't to make a republic, considering the RA could have easily toppled the PM with Budou's forces.Not to mention,Budou was planning to purge the corrupt officials of the empire to begin with.
It doesn't look like Budou's loyalty to the royal bloodline allows him to accept any kind of constitutional monarchy. I bet Budou wanted to crush the rebel army first, then kill the PM and his loyal minions and finally restore the emperor's power. The guy is just too loyal and stubborn to accept anything other than absolute monarchy.
RA are rebels who wants defeat regime of terror, general assumption is that ANYTHING has to be better than that. Even if they had idea what they want to do politicaly afterward, final result will be almost completely different anyway due huge amounts of compromises and practical issues.
If you have time to watch the news, please tell me how Libya are any better than it was under Gaddafi's rule.:uhoh:
Avrorrange
2015-01-27, 11:38
It doesn't look like Budou's loyalty to the royal bloodline allows him to accept any kind of constitutional monarchy. I bet Budou wanted to crush the rebel army first, then kill the PM and his loyal minions and finally restore the emperor's power. The guy is just too loyal and stubborn to accept anything other than absolute monarchy.
If you have time to watch the news, please tell me how Libya are any better than it was under Gaddafi's rule.:uhoh:
If you want a long term analysis,I suggest you look at the French Revolution.It first turned into a mindless bloodbath,a dictator then rises and proclaimed himself emperor,and in the end,the King even returned after the said dictator was defeated and deposed.Ultimately though,certain ideas like suffrage, freedom of religion and meritocracy sort of stuck.The monarch's ability to rule unrestrained was also broken.
Tenzen12
2015-01-27, 11:43
If you have time to watch the news, please tell me how Libya are any better than it was under Gaddafi's rule.:uhoh:
And was post revolution France better than before? It doesn't metter whether it will better or worse as long as there is state bassed on oppression there will always be oposition supported by people.
Avrorrange
2015-01-27, 11:50
And was post revolution France better than before? It doesn't metter whether it will better or worse as long as there is state bassed on oppression there will always be oposition supported by people.
I must also add that in the case of the French revolution,whoever took control always remembered that if they don't rule well or take heed to public opinion,they will just end up like Louis XVI.So while they did make some unpopular decisions,it gave them an idea of where to stop.
Golden_Witch
2015-01-27, 12:43
By the way:
Is Takahiro implying Tatsumi has surpassed Bulat now?
Seems too much of a coincidence that Bulat died per poisoning and now we have this situation but Tatsumi being alive.
dmaxzero
2015-01-27, 12:45
Absolutely irrelevant, this is a manga which lack a lot of common sense and logic. Any comparison or analysis in contrast with the real world is fruitless and inconsequential.
This is all for the sake of fun, no idea why people keep doing this kind of arguments. I just don't get it.
Tenzen12
2015-01-27, 12:56
Every fiction is in one or other way based on reality and if we exclude common sense and historical precedences there would be no way analise anything that's happen
and no it isn't void of logic and common sense, it only establishing additional rules that adjust it to new setting.
By the way:
Is Takahiro implying Tatsumi has surpassed Bulat now?
Seems too much of a coincidence that Bulat died per poisoning and now we have this situation but Tatsumi being alive.
Tatsumi drived his Teigu evolve into point he merged with it, so yeah in that metter he is stronger, but there is still techniques and skills, so it's impossible if he is surpassed him altogether.
Tatsumi is slowly merging with Incursio, an incident that had never happened in the past, not with Bulat nor with his mentor who was the strongest in the Empire in its day. Perhaps it isn't farfetched to think Tatsumi may be a hybrid like the Great Lord.
DemiDomo
2015-01-28, 11:39
so instead of mine dying, she put herself into a coma.
Golden_Witch
2015-01-28, 11:43
We don't even know if it's a downright Coma.
Like I said before.
This seems awfully similiar to Sayu Yagami's state in Death Note.
Avrorrange
2015-01-28, 11:49
We don't even know if it's a downright Coma.
Like I said before.
This seems awfully similiar to Sayu Yagami's state in Death Note.
At least she's still alive.It's still a much better end than most of the other characters,considering the amount of death flags piling against her.
Golden_Witch
2015-01-28, 12:02
Who knows for how long.
For all I know, Mine's current state could be used for more Shock Value.
Revolution Achieved.
Night Raid/Akame gets hunted.
Returns to base to gather some stuff.
See it's been burned down.
And that's a very light fate in this kind of Manga.
Pray that Honest doesn't find the location.
Najenda should stay behind to take care of Mine. But if not, then there's one person she could be entrusted to: the Great Lord.
DeliriousEagle
2015-01-28, 12:31
Tatsumi for Napoleon.
At least she's still alive.It's still a much better end than most of the other characters,considering the amount of death flags piling against her.
It may be that the author put her in a coma, because what Tatsumi will go through will be worse then what he will go through if she died.
If she died then its over, Tatsumi will be devastated but in time he will heal, but with her in a coma, Tatsumi will keep clinging to the hope that she will wake up only to be disappointed every day, its like the pain of losing her is remade every day.
Nighty40
2015-01-28, 14:40
It may be that the author put her in a coma, because what Tatsumi will go through will be worse then what he will go through if she died.
If she died then its over, Tatsumi will be devastated but in time he will heal, but with her in a coma, Tatsumi will keep clinging to the hope that she will wake up only to be disappointed every day, its like the pain of losing her is remade every day.
I wouldn't lose hope yet though, Mine is author's favorite character and there would be no point in making the main character suffer so much unless things would get better, this could possibly end similarly to an underrated manga known as World embryo for example.
I'm sure Mine will wake up at some point, be it during the final battle or at the end of it.
The question is how many of her friends will be dead by the time she does.
Oh, and to add an emotional impact to her recovery process , rather than the Great Lord with his healing powers what I would like the most is if Mine had an experience in limbo where she mets with Scheele where the later tells Mine her place is not yet with them. I would cry if that happened, Scheele...
Nighty40
2015-01-28, 16:47
I'm sure Mine will wake up at some point, be it during the final battle or at the end of it.
The question is how many of her friends will be dead by the time she does.
Oh, and to add an emotional impact to her recovery process , rather than the Great Lord with his healing powers what I would like the most is if Mine had an experience in limbo where she mets with Scheele where the later tells Mine her place is not yet with them. I would cry if that happened, Scheele...
Leone and Najenda are possibly the next ones to go, I'm sure they'll keep Akame around like in the anime since she's the name sake of the manga and Tatsumi might just live but with some bad side effects (unless we get the giant mecha fortress like in the anime god that was dumb)
The dumb part about the mecha wasn't just the teigu itself, it was an inexperienced child handling that shit with so much ease.
But no worries. If my gut is right, Dorothea will turn the Emperor into an eldrich abomination.
DeliriousEagle
2015-01-28, 17:37
The dumb part about the mecha wasn't just the teigu itself, it was an inexperienced child handling that shit with so much ease.
But no worries. If my gut is right, Dorothea will turn the Emperor into an eldrich abomination.
That is a hell of a gut you got going on. :eyebrow:
That is a hell of a gut you got going on. :eyebrow:
What else could it be that request of the PM to the alchemist.
DeliriousEagle
2015-01-28, 17:54
What else could it be that request of the PM to the alchemist.
You know what? I actually hope your gut is right. Out of all the possibilities, yours seems pretty damn hilarious if it comes to pass.
I'm pretty sure that this hasn't been mentioned yet, but when Mine shot that last blast at Budo, she *said* it was her final attack. I am pretty sure that, even if she wakes up again, her Teigu is gone. I think that last attack destroyed Pumpkin.
Estzero1
2015-01-28, 23:01
I'm pretty sure that this hasn't been mentioned yet, but when Mine shot that last blast at Budo, she *said* it was her final attack. I am pretty sure that, even if she wakes up again, her Teigu is gone. I think that last attack destroyed Pumpkin.
That was also my assessment, but it's not completely clear. I think it is so heavy damaged that she couldn't use it anymore. In my opinion the teigu still exists.
I'm pretty sure that this hasn't been mentioned yet, but when Mine shot that last blast at Budo, she *said* it was her final attack. I am pretty sure that, even if she wakes up again, her Teigu is gone. I think that last attack destroyed Pumpkin.
That was also my assessment, but it's not completely clear. I think it is so heavy damaged that she couldn't use it anymore. In my opinion the teigu still exists.
It really depends on what "Pumpkin" really is. We've seen her disassemble it and use other barrels, so it's possible that the teigu part is just some core that turns emotions to energy, and the gun itself can be remade.
DemiDomo
2015-01-29, 01:45
It really depends on what "Pumpkin" really is. We've seen her disassemble it and use other barrels, so it's possible that the teigu part is just some core that turns emotions to energy, and the gun itself can be remade.
By who?
The technology used to make the teigu is long lost. That explained in the prequel with akame. Emperor tried to create weapons greater than the teigu but came up way way way short.
I think the core of the gun itself is gone. The cracks appered not just the barrel but also on the main frame of the gun.
The barrel can be changed but there no replacement for the main frame. Gun is gone.
So I think I've just realized something.
After this battle, Tatsumi's eye has undergone a mutation, taking the shape and color of Incursio. And it appears Incursio/Tyrant's eyes originally were crimson red. Eventually the other eye will as well at a certain point transform.
http://33.media.tumblr.com/30cae83f4cda0496b1a461b07377d8a2/tumblr_natkvnB4o31saxdy4o1_500.gif
Red eyes; Red Eyes Killer; Akame ga Kill.
Tenzen12
2015-01-29, 08:17
So in the end Akame might loose even her status of titular character?:heh:
But even though it would be hilarious twist, I don't think Takahiro will go that far...
So I think I've just realized something.
After this battle, Tatsumi's eye has undergone a mutation, taking the shape and color of Incursio. And it appears Incursio/Tyrant's eyes originally were crimson red. Eventually the other eye will as well at a certain point transform.
http://33.media.tumblr.com/30cae83f4cda0496b1a461b07377d8a2/tumblr_natkvnB4o31saxdy4o1_500.gif
Red eyes; Red Eyes Killer; Akame ga Kill.
Titles are often used as puns, it may mean both of them, and other things as well.
Its not the first time I have seen a title have more than one meaning.
bnguyen14
2015-01-29, 16:07
Quick question, is the M rakshasa confirm dead? Last we saw her facepalmed the wall but is she dead?
DeliriousEagle
2015-01-29, 16:59
Quick question, is the M rakshasa confirm dead? Last we saw her facepalmed the wall but is she dead?
Who knows, last time we thought she was dead, she came back.
With all the abuse the characters can go through in this story, being planted in a wall doesn't really seem very lethal, expect the generic mob.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2015-01-31, 05:52
Late to the party as I just read the chapter today:
It’s a good chapter as “Mein being in a coma”-reveal at the end of the chapter hits me more than Mein’s death in the anime. Still, I have to say that Mein’s “final blast”-sequence in the anime that killed Budou looks more awesome now that I can compare it with the manga. The intense blast in the anime just feeIs more impactful from action standpoint. Moving along, I appreciate Budou got to show off more of his prowess by fending off the rest of NR practically alone (something the anime had to cut short due to time constraint). Though turns out that Budou is too emotional and too proud of a guy to come with a better decision than to just continue to chase and push NR to its limit knowing he’s already at disadvantage.
And Esdeath is just getting wetter and wetter watching Tasumi’s progress. I swear she nearly had an orgasm when Tatsumi punched her. Forget the sex, there’s a good chance that she can only “reach climax” when the guy she loves beat her up during an all-out fight. In that case, Tatsumi should work harder to bring out Esdeath's inner M :heh:. Oh, and I also love that Esdeath uses her arm-sized ice-shield like when she defended herself from Akame’s Murasame in the anime. Only in this case, she managed to block Tatsumi’s Neun-something spear, something she couldn’t do when she faced super-Akame in the anime.
Also, after reading this chapter, I can’t help but remember what many manga-fans in many forums & Youtube said after watching Mine vs Budou in the anime back then (paraphrasing, but these are pretty much what they said):
- What?! Budou can randomly float in the sky?!! This is ridiculous!! The manga won’t do this shit!!! F U WhiteFox!!!
- What?! Budou’s final move called “Solid Shooter”?!! That’s lame!! The manga won’t do this shit!!! F U WhiteFox!!!
- What?! Budou and Mine have a final duel with “massive energy waves” from their teigus and made massive hole in the clouds like Goku & Vegeta?!! This turns into DBZ so much it’s retarded!! The manga will never do this shit!!! F U WhiteFox!!!
To them I say: How does it feel to be slapped in the face by the very manga you put on a pedestal? I bet it feels great reading this chapter, huh? :rolleyes: (Though I kinda agree that Solid Shooter sounds lame and hoping the manga comes out with different name, at least I’m not in denial). My advice to you guys? Chill out a bit. At the end of the day, this is just a silly shounen manga, not a masterpiece in terms of writing by a longshot. I’m a longtime AgK fan and I embrace its silliness and though I do harshly criticize some choices the anime took, I know better than to freak out, pissed off, and cursing the studio and wishing them the worst just because they gave us something new or different (which turns out some of the “original” things in the anime are not that different from the manga after all).
Wouldn't it be more wise to say Takahiro had already finished this chapter when its anime counterpart aired?
People maybe don't know, but authors usually are at least 3 chapters ahead of the last one that got released.
So, Tatsumis right eye is red now?
WingsoftheDragonix
2015-01-31, 09:58
Hi, I'm new of the serie.
Please forgive my bad English.
So, Tatsumis right eye is red now?
His right eye is the one of the Tyrant now....so yeah, his right eye should be red now.
What I want to know is what kind of side effect this will have in the future. After all, would be too good if only good thing came from this merge between him and Incursio/Tyrant.
And I also wonder to what kind of reaction Honest and Dorothea will have on the news of this development.
And I also wonder to what kind of reaction Honest and Dorothea will have on the news of this development. Dorothea would probably want his fluids even more now.
Also if Tatsumi were to have a child would the child be part-Tyrant as well?
Randrak42
2015-01-31, 10:12
Wouldn't it be more wise to say Takahiro had already finished this chapter when its anime counterpart aired?
People maybe don't know, but authors usually are at least 3 chapters ahead of the last one that got released.
That's for weekly series.
WingsoftheDragonix
2015-01-31, 11:45
Dorothea would probably want his fluids even more now.
That's for sure. But I think she would also want to experiment on him in some way.
Also if Tatsumi were to have a child would the child be part-Tyrant as well?
I suppose so.....from what I understand Tatsumi is like the Lord of the path of peace( more or less) now.
His new right eye pretty much told us that he is not completely human anymore.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2015-01-31, 13:28
Wouldn't it be more wise to say Takahiro had already finished this chapter when its anime counterpart aired?
People maybe don't know, but authors usually are at least 3 chapters ahead of the last one that got released.The question is, how do you know for sure?
I don't like stating something unclear as facts and be a smartass (not necessarily pointing at you).
Can Tatsumi be considered a Hybrid now??
Half Tyrant Half Human?
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2015-01-31, 13:58
Can Tatsumi be considered a Hybrid now??
Half Tyrant Half Human?Well, we can’t be sure until the mangaka himself said so, can we? (maybe through some narration or dialogues between characters) But of course, we can still assume.
DemiDomo
2015-01-31, 14:00
i have a feeling esdeath is gonna go all out and try to rape tatsumi now.
i have a feeling esdeath is gonna go all out and try to rape tatsumi now.
Considering her ability to get through fights with no damage appears to be gone now, this is a good way to get Akames sword through her guts.
DemiDomo
2015-01-31, 23:43
Considering her ability to get through fights with no damage appears to be gone now, this is a good way to get Akames sword through her guts.
well it was against tatsumi who she was trying to capture without crippling or killing him. so he had an advantage.
Tenzen12
2015-02-01, 07:42
Yeah, if I remeber correctly noone else got even close to landing hit.
I agree, this is no longer the same boy Esdeath kidnapped at that tournament. Now, she will have to work for it. Beat him in to submission. It wont be easy this time. Its no longer the same "comes up and knocks him out scenario" For some reason I have this thought that she will never see him alive again. I am thinking he might die before she tries to recapture him.
DemiDomo
2015-02-01, 15:50
I agree, this is no longer the same boy Esdeath kidnapped at that tournament. Now, she will have to work for it. Beat him in to submission. It wont be easy this time. Its no longer the same "comes up and knocks him out scenario" For some reason I have this thought that she will never see him alive again. I am thinking he might die before she tries to recapture him.
or she might pull a yandere and "your gonna die with me tatsumi"
WingsoftheDragonix
2015-02-01, 16:14
or she might pull a yandere and "your gonna die with me tatsumi"
I can see her doing something like that. But I can also see her trying to do something like what she did in the anime with Tatsumi dead body after her battle with Akame.
Just that this time Tatsumi would be alive.:heh:
DemiDomo
2015-02-01, 16:16
I can see her doing something like that. But I can also see her trying to do something like what she did in the anime with Tatsumi dead body after her battle with Akame.
Just that this time Tatsumi would be alive.:heh:
you know, i was happy to stop watching the anime at a certain point because it started to derail from the manga.
not i gotta finish it to see what she does.
dam you wings.
Golden_Witch
2015-02-01, 17:21
I fear this could actually go down the understanding route with Esdeath, and I was a major denyer of that.
I keep thinking back to her conversation with Tatsumi in like Ch. 18.
When he was trying to make understand the feelings of the weak.
Back then, she coudn't understand simply because she can't understand the weak cause, I quote from her flashback:
"Whatever the enemy, I always dominate"
She is unable to understand cause she is at the very top, yet what just happened in this chapter was someone breaking that Dominance of hers, that being noone else than Tatsumi who was trying to make her understand the feelings of the weak.
I'm not saying she is weak, but her reasoning to not understand is gone cause she no longer is the absolute dominant.
On a different note:
I truly feel Esdeath's character is truly beginning to crumble.
The reasoning I say that is too because of her dominance.
"Everything will freeze before me!Whether infectous diseases, poisonous insect or dangerous animals."
Tatsumi just took a massive dump on that by breaking out of Mahapadma.
"I always dominate!"
That too just took a 360 turn with Tatsumi being able to fight her.
She found an even match now and even took her first damage after 50 chapters, which is more than symbolizing the loss of her dominance.
"I will be the one who changes you!"
Yeah....that didn't work at all.
The one who changed Tatsumi happens to be Mine.
And while not a quote:
Mine winning the Tatsbowl also adds in to permanently damaged this "Perfection" which Esdeath radiated by not getting what she wants.
And her reactions towards Tatsumi rejecting her, and Mine talking shit to her face are more examples as well.
Esdeath in a sense, her entire character, her believes in a way got completely obliterated by Mine and Tatsumi.
She was this fearsome, untouchable dominatrix who always gets what she wants.
All that is left now, is her view on nature with the strong and weak, and even that will crumble cause she has do be defeated.
DemiDomo
2015-02-02, 02:05
Actually i think esdeath was holding back. Capturing a person is harder than actually killing a person.
Even tatsumi used that and her emotions as a weakness to penetrate her.
Her status might crumble as an undefeatable person but literally she could've wiped the floor with everyone.
The only reason she couldn't was because she wanted tatsumi to be captured alive and not crippled.
But tatsumi was the only reason she couldn't wipe the floor with them.
Actually i think esdeath was holding back. Capturing a person is harder than actually killing a person.
Even tatsumi used that and her emotions as a weakness to penetrate her.
Her status might crumble as an undefeatable person but literally she could've wiped the floor with everyone.
The only reason she couldn't was because she wanted tatsumi to be captured alive and not crippled.
But tatsumi was the only reason she couldn't wipe the floor with them.
So Esdeath trying to kill Mine is her holding back? She even used Mahapadma to try and kill Mine and would have succeeded if not for Tatsumi and Akame. In fact if Leone didn't arrive in time, Akame and Mine would've been killed by the multiple icicles. Yeah sure maybe she didn't intent to kill Tatsumi and her feelings play a part but i don't think she held back, it's more like she underestimated Tatsumi.
Remind me to not dwell into myanimelist ever again. God, the trolls and douchebags that there are there far overshadow the very few you can find around this section.
RoyalZel
2015-02-02, 16:53
Remind me to not dwell into myanimelist ever again. God, the trolls and douchebags that there are there far overshadow the very few you can find around this section.
They can't be worse than the Agk threads on /a/. From what I see, other than that one guy Darklight who REALLY REALLY hates Mine, it's not that bad. But then again, when you frequent /a/, nothing seems bad in comparison....
They can't be worse than the Agk threads on /a/. From what I see, other than that one guy Darklight who REALLY REALLY hates Mine, it's not that bad. But then again, when you frequent /a/, nothing seems bad in comparison....
I have never seen a bigger collection of hate and negative criticism than on /a/ website. All they do is complain about how terrible both the manga and anime are. To me they are both great.
Just visited the MAL thread... wow, so much butthhurt over Mine being alive.
DemiDomo
2015-02-02, 21:13
Just visited the MAL thread... wow, so much butthhurt over Mine being alive.
she in a coma with her eyes open. idk how that considered rage inducing.
she in a coma with her eyes open. idk how that considered rage inducing.
Because she's alive, Tatsumi still loves her, and EsdeathxTatsumi is still on the bottom of the ocean after being torpedoed as hard as possible.
DemiDomo
2015-02-02, 21:36
Because she's alive, Tatsumi still loves her, and EsdeathxTatsumi is still on the bottom of the ocean after being torpedoed as hard as possible.
i ship esdeathxtatsumi as hard as i ship my rice and eggs.
but seriously esdeathxtatsumi not happening unless esdeath got tatsumi in her bdsm dungeon or if she decides to give up working for the kingdom which would never happen.
the only other time esdeathxtatsumi will happen if she raping him after beating him. which i don't see happening any time soon.
these people gotta learn how to deal with rejection.
i ship esdeathxtatsumi as hard as i ship my rice and eggs.
Do... do you ship rice and eggs hard? Because that's not something that's normally used as a comparison. :heh:
DemiDomo
2015-02-02, 21:41
Do... do you ship rice and eggs hard? Because that's not something that's normally used as a comparison. :heh:
yes i do my friend, i even went as far as making rice and egg sushi. without the fish.
Nighty40
2015-02-02, 22:02
Just visited the MAL thread... wow, so much butthhurt over Mine being alive.
I don't get why they would be that pissed off though, sure she's not dead but seeing her current condition she's not going to appear that much anyway, she'll probably wake up when the story reaches it's climax or final chapter.
bastek66
2015-02-02, 22:16
It's funny that in thread on Mal asking "Why people hate Mine" most votes has "I like her" yet thread is just another haters circlejerk.
Nighty40
2015-02-03, 02:06
It's funny that in thread on Mal asking "Why people hate Mine" most votes has "I like her" yet thread is just another haters circlejerk.
I'm assuming the people who like her are just trolling or they just don't want to comment and argue with the haters.
Because she's alive, Tatsumi still loves her, and EsdeathxTatsumi is still on the bottom of the ocean after being torpedoed as hard as possible.
It's going to get worse for Esdeath. Tatsumi now will not just fight his share but also Mine's, in the final clash with the Empire. His girlfriend is gonna be permanently in his mind and is going to constantly remind him for whom he's fighting, rendering any last desperate attempt Esdeath may use to get Tatsumi to her side futile.
As soon as that happens and she finally realizes Tatsumi has completely BTFO all her convictions, Esdeath will finally break down, and from there on, unstoppable rage will ensue. The next time they meet will be the last.
Tenzen12
2015-02-03, 08:13
I don't think she will break down. Rather she will decide enjoy fullest to their battles even if one of theme were to die.
Honest x Esdeath best couple. Lets do this!! :D
Honest better watch his back. Budo may be gone (for now), but this last dick move with the poison barb is gonna be his grave if Esdeath finds out.
Seitsuki
2015-02-03, 21:55
I could say that the Mine circlejerk here is just as strong.
Nighty40
2015-02-03, 22:31
I could say that the Mine circlejerk here is just as strong.
and it'll die down for a good while.
Honest better watch his back. Budo may be gone (for now), but this last dick move with the poison barb is gonna be his grave if Esdeath finds out.
what are the chances of esdeath knowing about that??
I could say that the Mine circlejerk here is just as strong.
I don't really see anything close to a circlejerk. I just see people laughing at the rabid haters.
DemiDomo
2015-02-03, 23:20
Honest better watch his back. Budo may be gone (for now), but this last dick move with the poison barb is gonna be his grave if Esdeath finds out.
they were gonna execute him. don't think it mattered.
Avrorrange
2015-02-03, 23:31
they were gonna execute him. don't think it mattered.
Didn't Esdeath plan to intentionally miss all his vitals and pretend that she killed him?
DemiDomo
2015-02-03, 23:42
Didn't Esdeath plan to intentionally miss all his vitals and pretend that she killed him?
I don't remember her saying that but now i gotta go look.
Avrorrange
2015-02-03, 23:59
I don't remember her saying that but now i gotta go look.
It was in Chapter 54 that she said it.
DemiDomo
2015-02-04, 00:50
It was in Chapter 54 that she said it.
ah okay, what a scary lady.
DeliriousEagle
2015-02-04, 02:12
Imagine if Esdese became a mother. God damn.
DemiDomo
2015-02-04, 02:16
Imagine if Esdese became a mother. God damn.
like the mom from parasyte? i would think if it was tatsumi's she would be a bit more caring. but with her work she be gone most of the time.
Imagine if Esdese became a mother. God damn.
She'd be the strictest and most loving mom ever. At the same time.
Also, dear god, Esdeath and Tatsumi having a child. He/She'd be freaking terrifying.
She'd be the strictest and most loving mom ever. At the same time.
Also, dear god, Esdeath and Tatsumi having a child. He/She'd be freaking terrifying.
If S-Desu and Tatsumi were to have a child, would the child be part-Tyrant and also inherit S-Desu's Teigu somehow? If so then he'd be able to pull off the revolution by himself. :heh:
Breimoon
2015-02-04, 08:11
I really want a VN so we can see what would happen if Esdeath and Tatsumi were to be together.
Wandering Soul
2015-02-04, 08:45
If S-Desu and Tatsumi were to have a child, would the child be part-Tyrant and also inherit S-Desu's Teigu somehow? If so then he'd be able to pull off the revolution by himself. :heh:
I'd worry about who the child would take ever. I wonder if Esdeath would be the type of mother that sends her child to the torture room for misbehaving:heh:
Every time someone makes a suggestion about what would a relationshop between Tatsumi and Esdeath feel, the episode 14 theater of the anime comes to mind.
DO-NOT-WANT
RoyalZel
2015-02-04, 10:31
Bah, I just want a VN so I could see a TasumixChelsea or TatsumixLeone route
dmaxzero
2015-02-04, 11:17
We all do want a VN of Akame ga Kill.
Golden_Witch
2015-02-04, 11:39
Maybe there is hope?
Like, Takahiro wrote Eroge for Minato Soft.And those he wrote all got a Manga.(No matter how shitty they may be)
And Yuki Yuna, originally a LN from Takahiro, is also getting a VN.
Golden_Witch
2015-02-04, 11:45
I have never seen a bigger collection of hate and negative criticism than on /a/ website. All they do is complain about how terrible both the manga and anime are. To me they are both great.
/a/ hates everything that is good or even remotely popular and try to bash it as much as possible, invading other sites to spread the hate.
KoL's Videos are the best example.
Some don't even try.How often do you think I saw AgK being referred as Fairy Tail cause of Fanservice and overuse of Nakama Power?
Of course this isn't a manga worthy of series of the century or stuff like that, but it's the wild ride making this so great.
It's no Berserk, a true masterpiece, but it's the kind which is exciting to read nonetheless why AgK is awesome.
Entertainment doesn't just come in a story being written masterfully.That's what many don't get.
And then there are those who make no sense at all.
If noone dies, it's called bullshit.
Have a Manga like AgK, it's still called bullshit.
/a/ hates everything that is good or even remotely popular and try to bash it as much as possible, invading other sites to spread the hate.
KoL's Videos are the best example.
Some don't even try.How often do you think I saw AgK being referred as Fairy Tail cause of Fanservice and overuse of Nakama Power?
Of course this isn't a manga worthy of series of the century or stuff like that, but it's the wild ride making this so great.
It's no Berserk, a true masterpiece, but it's the kind which is exciting to read nonetheless why AgK is awesome.
Entertainment doesn't just come in a story being written masterfully.That's what many don't get.
And then there are those who make no sense at all.
If noone dies, it's called bullshit.
Have a Manga like AgK, it's still called bullshit.
The good part is that those who do not like this manga are a minority. Most people enjoy the manga and the anime.
Kenju of the Right
2015-02-05, 20:36
I could say that the Mine circlejerk here is just as strong.
-looks around- where?
-looks around- where?
There were some before, but lately they haven't been posting for quite a while. Oh well, much better this way.
Kenju of the Right
2015-02-06, 10:52
Well when people tend to throw around their hate, others will show how they like it, so it's nothing wrong with that
Except when they go as far as to insult you. I suspect the deleted post below that one of mine in which I lashed out against certain users from Myanimelist for being obnoxious and childish didn't have any kind words addressed to me :rolleyes:
Golden_Witch
2015-02-06, 12:38
Someone once told me some wise and nice words when I see this "hate" and "insult" stuff.
As long as you, yourself enjoy something, what others say doesn't matter, so let them talk and keep enjoying it instead of getting lured in by the hate.
Someone once told me some wise and nice words when I see this "hate" stuff.
As long as you, yourself enjoy something, what others say doesn't matter, so let them talk and keep enjoying it instead of getting lured in by the hate.
So true, so much truth in this post.
Speaking of which, White Fox just confirmed in a recent interview that the reason for the rushed and original ending for the anime was due to the fact they ran out of material.
Yep, they didn't even ask Takahiro before they said "screw that, we'll do it our way". Hence why the resulting mess.
Was it really that hard to slow down the pace and wait for new material, really?
Golden_Witch
2015-02-06, 13:21
Basically:
White Fox are still morons.
They just FELT like they had to go all the way instead of the easier solution:
Instead of cutting out stuff:
Like Bulat on the Mountain, Jäger scenes (like the one before the fortress) or the Great Lords speech and 2nd encounter with Tatsumi and Mine, Seryu bonding with Esdeath and the Kids.
They could have kept those in and go up the Cathedral Battle for Season 1 and place the Great Lords Prophecy, along with Syura and his gang and Suzuka's survival as open end.
Seriously, what's so difficult about that?That was the PERFECT end.
Instead they chose to fuck up causing a major shitstorm.
The very reason they got to that point is simply cause they skipped so much content like crazy.
Nighty40
2015-02-06, 13:25
So true, so much truth in this post.
Speaking of which, White Fox just confirmed in a recent interview that the reason for the rushed and original ending for the anime was due to the fact they ran out of material.
Yep, they didn't even ask Takahiro before they said "screw that, we'll do it our way". Hence why the resulting mess.
Was it really that hard to slow down the pace and wait for new material, really?
meaning there's hope after all? we already have a few differences in the manga anyway, so Gundam Taigu may not be a thing here? it's not because I dislike the anime or anything, it's because I want the manga to be it's own thing and keep me surprised with every chapter.
No, you have it backwards. They skipped that stuff so they could get to that point, not the other way around. They clearly did not want an open ending for whatever reason, so they went with the half-baked ending. It's likely they didn't trust the series to sell well enough to continue with another season years later, so they decided it'd sell more if it had a definitive ending. They failed to realize that Good endings > Open endings > shit endings. Unfortunately for them, they went with the latter and ruined the anime and likely cost themselves more sales from fans than they gained from casual watchers.
Golden_Witch
2015-02-06, 13:32
Just make a VN and be done with it.xD
Preferably an Eroge too.=3
Asakawa would be in there too.So nothing of value lost.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2015-02-07, 02:20
meaning there's hope after all? we already have a few differences in the manga anyway, so Gundam Taigu may not be a thing here? it's not because I dislike the anime or anything, it's because I want the manga to be it's own thing and keep me surprised with every chapter.Meh, I actually don't mind if Shikotazer appear in the manga. Whether or not a certain teigu exist won't make or break the story if it's well-written. Like Mine being in a coma after a fight with Budo (which more or less the same with the anime) that can still cought me by surprise.
Also, I find people bashing Shikotazer for being a stupid teigu while at the same time welcome Esdeath's Mahapadma (literally freezing time) with open arms laughable. Don't they know that both are equally stupid? Yet they bash the former and adore the latter just because the latter belongs to.Esdeath and part of the manga canon (so far). Heh :rolleyes:
Golden_Witch
2015-02-07, 03:34
Mahapadma is nowhere near stupid and it's not freezing time either, that much has been established by now several times, it's purely cold otherwise Incursio woudn't have adapted to it's temperature.
And I'm not gonna go out my way to explain for the felt 8th Trillion time why Mahapadma for example is perfectly befitting Esdeath and why we should have seen it coming.
Golden_Witch
2015-02-07, 08:05
http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2015-02-15/manga/list.html
AgK
Best Seller
New York Times.
DeliriousEagle
2015-02-07, 10:28
I miss Syura, i genuinely do miss that fuck up.
I miss Syura, i genuinely do miss that fuck up.
Me too. I also miss the best jobber of 2014. I feel like people who say that Budo is a jobber haven't actually heard of Syura's great accomplishments, which in total amount to nothing. :heh:
WingsoftheDragonix
2015-02-07, 12:17
If you two are lucky Dorothea will probably bring him back as one of her experiment.
And I hope to be wrong on this.
If you two are lucky Dorothea will probably bring him back as one of her experiment.
And I hope to be wrong on this.
Are you kidding? That'd be great! His epic fail in an Empire without Budou will inevitably lead to a singularity of failure that destroys the evil empire without the heroes needing to do any fighting at all.
Kenju of the Right
2015-02-07, 13:54
Don't make Lubbock's death in vain dammit!
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2015-02-07, 13:58
Mahapadma is nowhere near stupid and it's not freezing time either, that much has been established by now several times, it's purely cold otherwise Incursio woudn't have adapted to it's temperature.Esdeath's own words during her Mahapadma-period : "I have frozen time and space". So, who are you kidding, boy? Argue all you can, she really does mean freezing time with her cold temperature, and that is stupid to me (and for a lot of people who shares my opinion and knows not to take this manga too seriously and just enjoy the silliness and the gruesome fights & killings).
Wandering Soul
2015-02-07, 14:22
Don't make Lubbock's death in vain dammit!
Lubbock stopped Syura from burning down the capital so his death would not be in vain.
Considering Syura's track record if he is brought back to life he will probably end up failing so hard he takes down the empire without NR doing anything.
Tenzen12
2015-02-07, 16:36
Esdeath's own words during her Mahapadma-period : "I have frozen time and space". So, who are you kidding, boy? Argue all you can, she really does mean freezing time with her cold temperature, and that is stupid to me (and for a lot of people who shares my opinion and knows not to take this manga too seriously and just enjoy the silliness and the gruesome fights & killings).
Sure she does mean freeze time with her cold temperature, but that's impossible and if she were quantum physicist (she obviously is not) she would pick her words diferently ...or maybe not, who care. It was pretty good description what was happening there anyway.
JameyoftheMegacosmos
2015-02-07, 19:23
Something out of the blue, but surprising I found. The Jaegers that are supposed to counter Night Raid can be seen as actual enemy counterparts. Like a Psycho Rangers group.
Esdeath -> Najenda
Wave -> Tatsumi
Kurome -> Akame
Seryu -> Mine
Coro -> Susanno
Dr. Stylish -> Lubbock
Run -> Leone
Bols -> Chelsea
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2015-02-07, 19:45
Sure she does mean freeze time with her cold temperature, but that's impossible and if she were quantum physicist (she obviously is not) she would pick her words diferently ...or maybe not, who care. It was pretty good description what was happening there anyway.You already make yourself quite clear with that bolded line (you don't care) :rolleyes:. So I guess further reply is useless.
Tenzen12
2015-02-07, 20:50
Yeah I do not care whether Esdeath call it freeze time or Love Love Beam, it will be same thing.
It doesn't change anything about principle behind it. And no it doesn't actually freeze time, that much is obvious from begenning. Or do you plan complain about Mine gun not shooting vegetable? Or call BS because Honest isn't nice guy despite of his name next? That would make as much sense.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2015-02-07, 22:30
Yeah I do not care whether Esdeath call it freeze time or Love Love Beam, it will be same thing.
It doesn't change anything about principle behind it. And no it doesn't actually freeze time, that much is obvious from begenning. Or do you plan complain about Mine gun not shooting vegetable? Or call BS because Honest isn't nice guy despite of his name next? That would make as much sense.What Esdeath and other characters said comes from the author. What she said is an exposition of what the author meant (freezing time) unless the character is meant to be lying, stupid, or doesn’t know what she’s talking about. Given what you said in your comment, you think Esdeath is somewhere in those categories which I highly doubt.
Honest's name is an irony since his character is so deprived and despicable. Don't you know irony? :rolleyes: There's a big difference between irony in characters' names and what the author said through his characters. Only those uninformed will lump them together.
Nighty40
2015-02-07, 22:47
Something out of the blue, but surprising I found. The Jaegers that are supposed to counter Night Raid can be seen as actual enemy counterparts. Like a Psycho Rangers group.
Esdeath -> Najenda
Wave -> Tatsumi
Kurome -> Akame
Seryu -> Mine
Coro -> Susanno
Dr. Stylish -> Lubbock
Run -> Leone
Bols -> Chelsea
uhh everyone already knew that from the minute the Jaegers were introduced.
Also, I find people bashing Shikotazer for being a stupid teigu while at the same time welcome Esdeath's Mahapadma (literally freezing time) with open arms laughable. Don't they know that both are equally stupid? Yet they bash the former and adore the latter just because the latter belongs to.Esdeath and part of the manga canon (so far). Heh :rolleyes:
Shikotazer is alot more jarring as a teigu because it's a mecha, a gigantic one at that. Even in a fantasy setting it's hard to swallow but more because it's a shonen series. Mahapadma technically is a technique of a teigu but since it's inseparable from Esdeath it gets an easier pass in general I would assume. The opposite of this instance would be in a mecha series a endboss suddenly shows up in the form of a human and stands as the final or penultimate obstacle before the last goal of the story.
I would bet Shikotazer wouldn't draw as much flak if it was human-sized or just slightly larger than a human and acts as a automaton bodyguard to the Emperor. Just weighing in on the opinions drawn here thus far.
DemiDomo
2015-02-08, 03:54
Shikotazer is alot more jarring as a teigu because it's a mecha, a gigantic one at that. Even in a fantasy setting it's hard to swallow but more because it's a shonen series. Mahapadma technically is a technique of a teigu but since it's inseparable from Esdeath it gets an easier pass in general I would assume. The opposite of this instance would be in a mecha series a endboss suddenly shows up in the form of a human and stands as the final or penultimate obstacle before the last goal of the story.
I would bet Shikotazer wouldn't draw as much flak if it was human-sized or just slightly larger than a human and acts as a automaton bodyguard to the Emperor. Just weighing in on the opinions drawn here thus far.
wouldn't it be similar to susanno then? he is a human variant mech sorta...
^ Yeah it would be. The presentation is what would separate them. There was a precedent with Incursio being Grand Chariot's prototype so they could have written Tazer as the perfected Susanoo as well.
DemiDomo
2015-02-08, 04:08
^ Yeah it would be. The presentation is what would separate them. There was a precedent with Incursio being Grand Chariot's prototype so they could have written Tazer as the perfected Susanoo as well.
makes perfect sense.
also, rather than being servant oriented, it could also be perfected in offense/defense.
I just hope it not something lame like having all the powers from all the other weapons but weaker varieties.
or a super easier to use version of incursio and grand chariot but with a different base.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2015-02-08, 05:26
The opposite of this instance would be in a mecha series a endboss suddenly shows up in the form of a human and stands as the final or penultimate obstacle before the last goal of the story. You know, that’s exactly what happened in Evangelion TV series when *spoiler* appeared in the show :heh:. And it doesn’t look or feel jarring because the show itself already established that the enemy (Angels) can come in various forms, sometimes absurd and unpredictable (kinda like teigus, isn't it?).
Shikotazer is alot more jarring as a teigu because it's a mecha, a gigantic one at that. Even in a fantasy setting it's hard to swallow but more because it's a shonen series.
I would bet Shikotazer wouldn't draw as much flak if it was human-sized or just slightly larger than a human and acts as a automaton bodyguard to the Emperor. Just weighing in on the opinions drawn here thus far.In AgK world, it’s already established that their technology (especially the tech used to make the teigus) is quite advanced. We got Pumpkin which basically is a machine-gun and sometimes laser/particle/beam rifle (it even has a freakin’ Scouter ala DBZ!), we got Najenda’s mechanical/bionic arm (not a teigu, which only support my argument even more), we got Susanoo which basically is a robot complete with an AI, we got Grand Chariot, etc, etc. So what’s the big deal with a Giant-Robot teigu, really? Its existence itself is not more stupid than what we have so far in the manga I tell you.
DemiDomo
2015-02-08, 05:31
You know, that’s exactly what happened in Evangelion TV series when *spoiler* appeared in the show :heh:. And it doesn’t look or feel jarring because the show itself already established that the enemy (Angels) can come in various forms, sometimes absurd and unpredictable (kinda like teigus, isn't it?).
In AgK world, it’s already established that their technology (especially the tech used to make the teigus) is quite advanced. We got Pumpkin which basically is a machine-gun and sometimes laser/particle/beam rifle (it even has a freakin’ Scouter ala DBZ), we got Najenda’s mechanical/bionic arm, we got Susanoo which basically is a robot complete with an AI, we got Grand Chariot, etc, etc. So what’s the big deal with a Giant-Robot teigu, really? Its existence itself is not more stupid than what we have so far in the manga I tell you.
I think it more of the fact where the hell did they get that much resources to make that.
look at all the teigu, they are all small or human proportional sizes with somewhat reasonable abilities. then all of a sudden u got a giant mecha.
was the resource pool 80% for the mecha while the rest got 20% of the remaining resources for testing and creation?
either way i don't really care but it still mind boggling.
Tenzen12
2015-02-08, 05:38
What Esdeath and other characters said comes from the author. What she said is an exposition of what the author meant (freezing time) unless the character is meant to be lying, stupid, or doesn’t know what she’s talking about. Given what you said in your comment, you think Esdeath is somewhere in those categories which I highly doubt.
Honest's name is an irony since his character is so deprived and despicable. Don't you know irony? :rolleyes: There's a big difference between irony in characters' names and what the author said through his characters. Only those uninformed will lump them together.
But it's natural Esdeath doesn't know what she talking about, unless you have reason belive she is actualy quantum physicist. She simply used layman words and there is nothing wrong about it.
And yeah, taking her words of laik without grain of salt is same level of literal mindness as not reckognising basic irony.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2015-02-08, 05:42
I think it more of the fact where the hell did they get that much resources to make that.That's a very good question. You can ask the First Emperor for that. And while you're at it, please also ask how they were able to get the Demon's Extract, Incursio, and other crazy teigus from the supposedly uber powerful Danger Beasts which are really strong even amongst the strong Danger Beasts. I'm interested to know too.
But it's natural Esdeath doesn't know what she talking about, unless you have reason belive she is actualy quantum physicist. She simply used layman words and there is nothing wrong about it.
And yeah, taking her words of laik without grain of salt is same level of literal mindness as not reckognising basic irony.Why should I take her word with a grain of salt when she was so sure about that :rolleyes:. It was a serious situation, and she's basically talking to herself since noone else were able to hear her during the Mahapadma-period, so she has no reason to lie or throwing a red herring either, and aside from love and common sense, she knows what she's talking about when it comes to torture, fighting and battles (even more so, her own power that she established herself). Please gimme a better excuse beside that lame "she's not a physycist" you always come up with.
WingsoftheDragonix
2015-02-08, 05:44
Are you kidding? That'd be great! His epic fail in an Empire without Budou will inevitably lead to a singularity of failure that destroys the evil empire without the heroes needing to do any fighting at all.
I just dislike his character so much that I don't want see him anymore. That's the only reason to why I want to be wrong about his return as one of her experiment.
DemiDomo
2015-02-08, 05:56
That's a very good question. You can ask the First Emperor for that. And while you're at it, please also ask how they were able to get the Demon's Extract, Incursio, and other crazy teigus from the supposedly uber powerful Danger Beasts which are really strong even amongst the strong Danger Beasts. I'm interested to know too.
Why should I take her word with a grain of salt when she was so sure about that :rolleyes:. It was a serious situation, and she's basically talking to herself since noone else were able to hear her during the Mahapadma-period, so she has no reason to lie or throwing a red herring either, and aside from love and common sense, she knows what she's talking about when it comes to torture, fighting and battles (even more so, her own power that she established herself). Please gimme a better excuse beside that lame "she's not a physycist" you always come up with.
No, kidding, i don't get it either but considering how esdeath is without ice teigu maybe people were of that level back then as well.
I was under the assumption, esdeath just thought of ways to stop tatsumi from escaping and looked at the possible ways to trap him and since all her answers is either maim/kill it or freeze it. "her thought process must've been i don't wanna kill or cripple tatsumi, i'll just freeze time". then with her monsterous amount of talent developed a way to to freeze time or something from totally spies about cooling down molecules.
You know, that’s exactly what happened in Evangelion TV series when *spoiler* appeared in the show :heh:. And it doesn’t look or feel jarring because the show itself already established that the enemy (Angels) can come in various forms, sometimes absurd and unpredictable (kinda like teigus, isn't it?).
Good catch. Though I would say Eva did better foreshadowing than Doc whatshisname's cryptic one-liner before death.
In AgK world, it’s already established that their technology (especially the tech used to make the teigus) is quite advanced. We got Pumpkin which basically is a machine-gun and sometimes laser/particle/beam rifle (it even has a freakin’ Scouter ala DBZ!), we got Najenda’s mechanical/bionic arm (not a teigu, which only support my argument even more), we got Susanoo which basically is a robot complete with an AI, we got Grand Chariot, etc, etc. So what’s the big deal with a Giant-Robot teigu, really? Its existence itself is not more stupid than what we have so far in the manga I tell you.
I'm not contesting their tech level since it's wildly variable, and they forgot to invent the most important teigu called the telephone while they were at it. :p What grinds people's teeth is probably the fact the Emperor sits inside it and control it like a Power Ranger Megazord. :D
DeliriousEagle
2015-02-13, 04:52
We should do a poll on who will be the next one to die. I mean we are down to a handful of characters remaining. Might as well take bets and see who is right.
Tenzen12
2015-02-13, 07:30
Why should I take her word with a grain of salt when she was so sure about that :rolleyes:. It was a serious situation, and she's basically talking to herself since noone else were able to hear her during the Mahapadma-period, so she has no reason to lie or throwing a red herring either, and aside from love and common sense, she knows what she's talking about when it comes to torture, fighting and battles (even more so, her own power that she established herself). Please gimme a better excuse beside that lame "she's not a physycist" you always come up with.
There is no need for better "excuse" because this penis flawless. Using Teigus is same as using own limbs. You not just don't have to understand inner mechanics, but for most users it'simpossible in first place. Esdeath wanted freeze time and did something damn close.
Well, if you don't want understand it's your business I said everything needed.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2015-02-13, 08:44
There is no need for better "excuse" because this penis flawless. Using Teigus is same as using own limbs. You not just don't have to understand inner mechanics, but for most users it'simpossible in first place. Esdeath wanted freeze time and did something damn close.
Well, if you don't want understand it's your business I said everything needed.It took you this long to reply me, and you're talking about penis? :rolleyes: I'm done here.
Tenzen12
2015-02-13, 09:03
It took you this long to reply me, and you're talking about penis? :rolleyes: I'm done here.
Well, I don't have clue how did penis got there, honestly (probably something with predictive text cell phone feature). It was supposed be "one is" (it should obvious now if you look on that sentence) But if it is word that can make you give up I should try use it more often.
Oh and yeah I didn't noticed your answer until now, not that there was anything new in it.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2015-02-13, 09:18
Well, I don't have clue how did penis got there, honestly (probably something with predictive text cell phone feature). It was supposed be "one is" (it should obvious now if you look on that sentence) But if it is word that can make you give up I should try use it more often.
Oh and yeah I didn't noticed your answer until now, not that there was anything new in it.Oh, so you prefer to use cheap tricks like that to make me give up instead of confronting me with proper arguments? Well, Congratulations sir, you win the jackpot. Feel free to use dirty words to intimidate me :cool:.
Nighty40
2015-02-13, 20:32
We should do a poll on who will be the next one to die. I mean we are down to a handful of characters remaining. Might as well take bets and see who is right.
my money is on Leone, she's the only supporting character (in Nightraid) left aside from Najenda
DeliriousEagle
2015-02-14, 04:01
my money is on Leone, she's the only supporting character (in Nightraid) left aside from Najenda
Mine is on Dorothea.
Nighty40
2015-02-14, 12:36
Mine is on Dorothea.
Mine is considered a main character though (at least in the manga, if we're talking anime then you'd be right for calling her a side character) and won't appear for a good while do to being comatose.
Mine is on Dorothea.
Taken out of context this post can lead to some hilarious thoughts.
WingsoftheDragonix
2015-02-14, 13:22
Mine is considered a main character though (at least in the manga, if we're talking anime then you'd be right for calling her a side character) and won't appear for a good while do to being comatose.
I think DeliriousEagle meant "Dorothea" and not "Mine".
Her(Mine) name really can cause misunderstanding.:heh:
As for me I think the next one to die will be Leona.(even If I hope to be wrong).
The next person who dies should be a member of the Jaegars, while not always, but for the most part the deaths (or at least removal from active combat) go back and forth between Night Raid and the Jaegars.
So either Wave or Kurome may fall next.
Not after Wild Hunt. To me the next one in the list is going to be Izou.
Nighty40
2015-02-14, 22:06
I think DeliriousEagle meant "Dorothea" and not "Mine".
Her(Mine) name really can cause misunderstanding.:heh:
As for me I think the next one to die will be Leona.(even If I hope to be wrong).
well I feel stupid now XD
DeliriousEagle
2015-02-18, 09:55
Get hype my friends. We are approaching that time of the month. Actually anyone got any idea where we will be at this chapter coming up setting wise? Straight to Capital deployment?
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2015-02-18, 10:24
Get hype my friends. We are approaching that time of the month. Actually anyone got any idea where we will be at this chapter coming up setting wise? Straight to Capital deployment?Hard to say. Aren’t we entering a new arc starting from the soon-to-be-released chapter? Maybe this will be Capital’s last stand or something like that. Then again, we still don’t know what PM & that vampire chick is planning. We might get a slight detour missions before diving straight into “taking over the Capital”-thing. Just a guess.
Get hype my friends. We are approaching that time of the month. Actually anyone got any idea where we will be at this chapter coming up setting wise? Straight to Capital deployment?
Either cleaning up wild hunt remnants or marking kurome as high priority target to pave the way to Esdeath/Honest. With the usual preamble on current state of affairs by Boss to build things up.
I thought we were going to divel into whatever is happening to Tatsumi now his right eye is permanently incursioed?
Dysprosium
2015-02-19, 11:18
Well, the Korean scans (57) are out.
Mine is sent away to get treatment and Tatsumi says lets get married when you get better.
Tatsumi's body merged with incurso so he's kinda half incurso half human which is why the poison on the sword didn't kill him.
But if tatsumi continues to use Incurso recklessly he'll get consumed by incurso, so his limit is 3-4 more incurso use.
Tatsumi and Najenda talk about future battle with Esdeath etc. Tatsumi vows to fight with his all.
Meanwhile Leone and Akame talking to each other and akame comments on how tatsumi hasn't smiled once after escaping and on how the base looks so empty.
Leone comforts Akame and together they promise to go on a trip on a boat after tatsumi regain smile and mine returns to normal.
Switch back to Najenda feeling lonely after rabac dead.
Switch to Esdeath with wave and his waifu on battle meeting on how to handle the rebels who are near capital now.
Wave worries on how to fight with huge number of rebels, but Esdeath points outside window and says we'll fight with that (didn't show what it is).
kurome does more waifu shit like rolling around wave's bed and hugging his pillow
Switch to dorthea with prime minister talking about how she made teigu adjustments and shit
Dorthea goes away to feed modified cosmina (the girl with mic in wild hunt) who looks like a half spider now.
DeliriousEagle
2015-02-19, 11:34
Pretty cool bug i gotta say.
Golden_Witch
2015-02-19, 12:11
Why is Dorothea so perfect?
That goddamn cover.
K-Kurome?You ok there?
3-4 more uses huh?=/
bastek66
2015-02-19, 12:24
Now I have no doubts that Tatsumi and Leone will die here too.
RoyalZel
2015-02-19, 12:38
Tatsumi ain't gonna have his little wedding at the end huh :/
This chapter alone has effectively killed all chance, if there was any in first place, the manga follows a similar route to the anime.
But let's get into business.
Worst fears have been confirmed. Tatsumi is fusing with Incursio, and it will completely consume him after 3 or 4 more uses.
Dorothea is the best Wild Hunt member. The creepy things she can create. That bug-like Cosmina reminds me of a certain boss from the rpg game Bravely Default I won't spoil to the users here.
Obelisk ze Tormentor
2015-02-19, 12:53
I at least want Tatsumi to lose his virginity (in a good way) before dying (maybe Mine wakes up nd they screw or something). Guy needs a break after all he's been through :D.
This chapter alone has effectively killed all chance, if there was any in first place, the manga follows a similar route to the anime.After episode 19 of the anime, it's very much obvious that the manga is taking a different route from the anime (or vice-versa). It's just some "anime original"-elements ended up in the manga too (remember Mine vs Budou?).
dmaxzero
2015-02-19, 13:02
And there goes any possibility of him surviving.
Now we need the final battle with a big ass mech and Incursio wings.
Much of my enthusiasm is now gone.
^Which part of the manga is following an all around different route you didn't get?
But forget this, because next chapter might even top what WH did in chapter 46.
Dorothea: Let's go outside the capital. Cosmina is hungry.
Or something along these lines. Yikes.
NeutralZero
2015-02-19, 13:03
well that's a nice chapter... a calm before the storm...
wonder what other things Dorthea can do...
dmaxzero
2015-02-19, 13:17
^Which part of the manga is following an all around different route you didn't get?
But forget this, because next chapter might even top what WH did in chapter 46.
Dorothea: Let's go outside the capital. Cosmina is hungry.
Or something along these lines. Yikes.
My prerogative.
RoyalZel
2015-02-19, 13:48
^Which part of the manga is following an all around different route you didn't get?
But forget this, because next chapter might even top what WH did in chapter 46.
Dorothea: Let's go outside the capital. Cosmina is hungry.
Or something along these lines. Yikes.
Oh shit she says that? Now imagine that huge ass spider attacking a certain carrage that is transporting a certain comotosed girl :upset:
^ Very doubtful at this point. The carrage is heading out to the Revolutionary HQ. So what I think is going to happen is that Wild Hunt will ravage a few small towns, then run into Night Raid.
This kinda reminds me of the Syura rape thing back then. Aren't you guys a little too fearful? :heh:
Nighty40
2015-02-19, 14:23
why do I get the feeling that this will end like Gurren Laggon with the wedding
except this time it will be the hero who dies as appose to his girl
DeliriousEagle
2015-02-19, 15:17
God damn i love Tyrant, glorious bastard. Hope it survives even if it means down the line everyone else must die.
bnguyen14
2015-02-19, 17:29
Tatsumi look more mature with new out fit, and it looks like his eye is gonna stay that way.
First off is that you Stylish. O___O
Second, that ending. It brims with the smell of death.
WingsoftheDragonix
2015-02-20, 03:56
^ Very doubtful at this point. The carrage is heading out to the Revolutionary HQ. So what I think is going to happen is that Wild Hunt will ravage a few small towns, then run into Night Raid.
This kinda reminds me of the Syura rape thing back then. Aren't you guys a little too fearful? :heh:
Can you blame them?Don't get me wrong, I agree with you but I can understand why people fear something like that may happen.
So....if I understand right the Tyrant will reborn if Tatsumi keeps this up?:confused:
At least this is what I thought after I read the spoiler about his situation.
^ Very doubtful at this point. The carrage is heading out to the Revolutionary HQ. So what I think is going to happen is that Wild Hunt will ravage a few small towns, then run into Night Raid.
This kinda reminds me of the Syura rape thing back then. Aren't you guys a little too fearful? :heh:
Usually i would say yes but remember this, Mine was the one who shot Cosmina. Cosmitula might out of her insanity seek revenge on her.
Welp, this is going to be the final push.
Though Wild Hunt has been disbanded, Honest has granted Dorothea full powers to do as she pleases. In short, the alchemist has taken over and is now the self-proclaimed new leader of the group.
Dorothea plans to test out the new modified Cosmina with the revolutionaries, with Izou lending a hand, that are stationed near the capital. Hell is about to break loose.
RoyalZel
2015-02-20, 14:47
If that's the case I'd imagine the next few chapters being Akame vs. Izou, Tatsumi vs. spider Cosmina, and Leone vs. Dorothea
At the point at we have arrived I don't see any more casualties from Night Raid at least until the war begins in the capital.
Seeing Najenda say how lonely she feels now is heart wrenching. The anime didn't even pay any heed to this.
I'm going to go ahead and call it that Tatsumi uses Incursio to defeat Spider Cosmina, if there is a limit to how many times Tatsumi can use Incursio then its inevitable that he will eventually hit it and try to cross it.
bnguyen14
2015-02-20, 15:37
People are still comparing the manga to the anime? Here!3DlZdZYLCfU
I'm going to go ahead and call it that Tatsumi uses Incursio to defeat Spider Cosmina, if there is a limit to how many times Tatsumi can use Incursio then its inevitable that he will eventually hit it and try to cross it.
I doubt that thing inside the glass tank display will be something too major, it'll be strong no doubt but not going to be earth shattering I'm sure. I'm more concern about what Esdeath meant when she said "We'll use that." *pointing outside the window*
If Dorothea can do this, then it's out of question she has the means to create an entire army of those.
Estzero1
2015-02-20, 15:45
If Dorothea can do this, then it's out of question she has the means to create an entire army of those.
Sounds like the legacy of Stylish if you ask me. Nevertheless she is cool.
Golden_Witch
2015-02-20, 21:51
Just gonna repeat what I said on another Forum here.Bumping up the Anime Thread for this is stupid IMO.
I dunno how many are german here, but incase there are I thought I let know that AgK got green lights to air on Prosieben Maxx.
Will be added onto the Channel's late night Anime block along with Noragami,DxD, Black Bullet and HotD.Others are to follow cause KSM wanna go serious with Anime in germany.
Estzero1
2015-02-20, 22:30
I dunno how many are german here, but incase there are I thought I let know that AgK got green lights to air on Prosieben Maxx.
Will be added onto the Channel's late night Anime block along with Noragami,DxD, Black Bullet and HotD.Others are to follow cause KSM wanna go serious with Anime in germany.
I was surprised when I first heard about it. As far as I know it will start in March.
That's pretty cool. Will definitely watch it. I just hope some publisher will license the manga too. And when you are talking about KSM. They already serious about it. I looking forward of the licenses in the future.
Eisdrache
2015-02-20, 23:26
I dunno how many are german here, but incase there are I thought I let know that AgK got green lights to air on Prosieben Maxx.
Will be added onto the Channel's late night Anime block along with Noragami,DxD, Black Bullet and HotD.Others are to follow cause KSM wanna go serious with Anime in germany.
What kind of channel is ProSieben Maxx? Is it like RTL2 that also aired several anime (good old Detective Conan times, with excellent german dubs) or more like CartoonNetwork?
Also screw my ancient TV that most likely can't receive it anyway.
Estzero1
2015-02-21, 09:07
What kind of channel is ProSieben Maxx? Is it like RTL2 that also aired several anime (good old Detective Conan times, with excellent german dubs) or more like CartoonNetwork?
It is more like RTL2. They have a wider range in TV program than just a CartoonNetwork
So Tatsumi is not human anymore. He is slowly becoming Tyrant. THIS IS SO AWESOME!!
dmaxzero
2015-02-22, 10:07
Tatsumi becoming Tyrant. Should we take that in a literal way?
I mean. What it does actually mean?
Would be great if he turns into a human size monster. Like, maybe he'll become a danger beast. (and as a beast, if Esdeath were to tame him... XD That'll be awesome, in its own way)
I want some better and more complete explanation. Besides the let down on that he is going to die, I do hope the author explain and shows this properly.
Probably after previous evolution of his Incursio after he was poisoned by wire at the sword. You know since Tatsumi is always adapt at any situation which similar to that Teigu, probably he also have a tight or even unbreakable bond with that Teigu.
From what i can see, Mine is not dead yet.. She's just entering vegetative state with that condition. Commonly the body will start decay after 24 hours of death but in Mine's case she's entering vegetative state after she pushed herself to defeat Budou.
bnguyen14
2015-02-22, 13:46
Tatsumi turning into the tyrant? Am I the only one who thinks that is actually pretty cool? I mean think about it, Humanoid Dragon O_o How beastly is that? Well, as long as he retain his human's reason.
WingsoftheDragonix
2015-02-22, 14:08
Tatsumi turning into the tyrant? Am I the only one who thinks that is actually pretty cool? I mean think about it, Humanoid Dragon O_o How beastly is that? Well, as long as he retain his human's reason.
That's the problem, I doubt he will retain his human heart.(if he ends fully consumed by the Tyran/Incursio)
If I understand right he would become some kind of mindless beast that need to be put down for his own good. :(
Also, shouldn't we discuss this under the spoiler tag?
Breimoon
2015-02-22, 14:09
I wonder if it may end like the anime but with Tatsumi being the one hunted instead of Akame.
bnguyen14
2015-02-22, 14:16
That's the problem, I doubt he will retain his human heart.(if he ends fully consumed by the Tyran/Incursio)
If I understand right he would become some kind of mindless beast that need to be put down for his own good. :(
Also, shouldn't we discuss this under the spoiler tag?
Considering that there's a tragedy tag on this, I suppose Tatsumi will go down with a bang. But you know, there's can always be hope, even though that hope will be tramble upon by the author....
No spoiler tag needed, all of these are quite obvious.
I wonder if it may end like the anime but with Tatsumi being the one hunted instead of Akame.
What? Hunted by what? On that note, we couldn't care less about the anime, since after Green Hair died, it never exist in my timeline.
Breimoon
2015-02-22, 14:42
Akame is shown being hunted by other people who may be assassins, bounty hunters or people who just want revenge
WingsoftheDragonix
2015-02-22, 17:00
Considering that there's a tragedy tag on this, I suppose Tatsumi will go down with a bang. But you know, there's can always be hope, even though that hope will be tramble upon by the author....
That's true. Well....even if I said that I still not lose all hope that something good will happen in the end.
No spoiler tag needed, all of these are quite obvious.
True. But I thought that was good to ask, just to be sure.
Golden_Witch
2015-02-22, 18:43
Apparently manga pages aren't allowed, right?
What about drawings from the Author?
Cause Tashiro released a full coloring of Cosmina for Gangan (The likes we see on Volume Covers).
He also made a joke one with what would happen had Bulat lived to see Susanoo and apparently a VERY VERY peculiar one with Dorothea.
Hey GW. Can you PM for those drawings please? Especially the one that features Dorothea. There seems to be something interesting.
Golden_Witch
2015-02-22, 19:11
Did you receive it?
I did, thanks. And holy crap, this looks to be something of big relevance to end up being just a tease.
Estzero1
2015-02-22, 19:40
Did you receive it?
Can you send it me too? If it's Doro I have to see it :D.
DeliriousEagle
2015-02-22, 19:42
Tatsumi turning into the tyrant? Am I the only one who thinks that is actually pretty cool? I mean think about it, Humanoid Dragon O_o How beastly is that? Well, as long as he retain his human's reason.
I am beyond fucking thrilled and hyped. Tyrant does the work anyway, so let the based beast who has seen it all and defied death to take over. I would be beyond enraged if Tyrant died as he did in the anime.
It appears Tatsumi's fate is shaping to become something beyond amazing, and at the same time, one that might end his life.
And they left the number of times he can use Incursio before it completely consumes him kinda ambiguous: 3 or 4. This means after the third time he uses it, the next one will be a bet. He either could hit his limit or going past it.
Tatsumi not being human anymore likely explains that excited reaction of Dorothea when she took a sip of his blood. It was probably then when the merging had begun.
Apparently manga pages aren't allowed, right?
What about drawings from the Author?
Cause Tashiro released a full coloring of Cosmina for Gangan (The likes we see on Volume Covers).
He also made a joke one with what would happen had Bulat lived to see Susanoo and apparently a VERY VERY peculiar one with Dorothea.
Can you send me it as well, I am interested.
Thanks.
Golden_Witch
2015-02-22, 20:09
So guys:
What can we take from Tashiro himself, on Valentines Day, posting Wave and Kurome?
Translations are allowed, right? Because this chapter is full-packed with content.
http://pastebin.com/XdWpZWyq
Some notes of importance.
- The chapter cements that Tatsumi and only him will be the one to put an end to Esdeath.
- As for Esdeath herself, the next time she fights Tatsumi it will be a battle to death, with no restraint.
- It's confirmed that thing outside is not the Ultimate Teigu.
- As for what the UT respects, the request of the PM is revealed: Dorothea has improved the UT with alchemy.
- And now the biggest one. Cosmina is according to Dorothea her best creation, and it grows in power the more is feed on. What's more, its potential is so huge if feed enough it might rival the Ultimate Teigu!!!
- And now the worst part, and worst in the sense that hell is about to break loose in the Capital. Dorothea is going to take her creation outside, helped by Izou. They are going once again, but this time with the autorization of the PM, to wreak havoc among the citizens. Many lives are going to become food for Dorothea's ultimate creation.
The Capital is about to plunge into chaos.
Estzero1
2015-02-22, 20:21
@ Golden Witch
Thx for the Picture. I think it is cute, but I'm still a little bit clueless about the 56.
Is it a reference to the chapter or to something else? If you know it please enlighten me unknowing.
Apparently manga pages aren't allowed, right?
What about drawings from the Author?
Cause Tashiro released a full coloring of Cosmina for Gangan (The likes we see on Volume Covers).
He also made a joke one with what would happen had Bulat lived to see Susanoo and apparently a VERY VERY peculiar one with Dorothea.
Can you PM me as well please.
Sent it my way as well, please.
Golden_Witch
2015-02-23, 06:48
Can anyone be so kind and translate this for me?
恐ろしい程大臣が可愛いだって...!?有難う!
Breimoon
2015-02-23, 07:23
Apparently manga pages aren't allowed, right?
What about drawings from the Author?
Cause Tashiro released a full coloring of Cosmina for Gangan (The likes we see on Volume Covers).
He also made a joke one with what would happen had Bulat lived to see Susanoo and apparently a VERY VERY peculiar one with Dorothea.
Can you pm to me too, pls?? Or just post twitter link or wherever you took those from?
Can anyone be so kind and translate this for me?
"The more cute they are, the more horrible you like them made, PM...!? Thank you!"
Is this a dialogue that belongs to Dorothea?
Golden_Witch
2015-02-23, 07:33
"The more cute they are, the more horrible you like them turned into, PM...!? Thank you!"
Is this a dialogue that belongs to Dorothea?
Tashiro's reply to me on Twitter.
I told Tashiro how the Dorothea one is cute but at the same has some terrifying tone to it cause it IS her DOROTHEA (nuff said) stumbling upon a freaking abandoned Coro.
Thanks Alpha.:)
3 from Night Raid, 3 from the Jaegers and 3 from Wild Hunt.
Takahiro made sure each faction would take part in the final and decisive battle with only 3 members each.
I guess you could say this is going to be a well balanced 3 vs 3.
3 from Night Raid, 3 from the Jaegers and 3 from Wild Hunt.
Takahiro made sure each faction would take part in the final and decisive battle with only 3 members each.
I guess you could say this is going to be a well balanced 3 vs 3.
The thing is you can't say that when Wave can solo both Leone and Akame like fodder.
And if experience tell us, of this new spider thing might as well solo everything else.
This is basically Tatsume vs everybody else...
The thing is you can't say that when Wave can solo both Leone and Akame like fodder.
And if experience tell us, of this new spider thing might as well solo everything else.
This is basically Tatsume vs everybody else...
Akame could pull out her trump card to make it more even. Although at that point Leone would end up as fodder material.
Akame could pull out her trump card to make it more even. Although at that point Leone would end up as fodder material.
And do what? Wave is basically Anti-Akame with his armor.
Maybe against Kurome? Sure I can see that, but Kurome has shown to give Akame a run for her money before. Also then Leone vs Wave? Yup lion-girl doesn't get past there.
Sure Masamune is hax and can be useful vs: Kurome, Dorothea, Cosmina, Izuo.
But who she can actually hit with that? Only Dorothea and Cosmina I see.
Golden_Witch
2015-02-23, 09:33
i wonder who's gonna face Cosmina....
Way I see it:
Izou vs Akame vs Kurome
- Izou dies first but takes out Natala and Run to make it a fight strictly between the Sisters
Tatsumi vs Esdeath is clear.
I can't even begin to wonder about Leone....
However, I do believe Cosmina is gonna kill someone nameworthy.Maybe her.
Dorothea I fear has another trump up her sleeve.
What if she turned Lubbock into a Monster?
Cause....
That barbed wire.I wouldn't be surprised if that was Cross Tail modified by Dorothea.
Najenda being forced to kill Lubbock again seems like something that could happen which may fuel Najenda's wrath unleashed on Dorothea.
Dorothea I fear has another trump up her sleeve.
What if she turned Lubbock into a Monster?
Cause....
That barbed wire.I wouldn't be surprised if that was Cross Tail modified by Dorothea.
Najenda being forced to kill Lubbock again seems like something that could happen.
On that respect, Dorothea in the chapter says she made adjustments to some teigus.
*shudders*
Cosmina holding the potential to rival the Ultimate Teigu and being human flesh her source of strenght sounds terryfing.
Golden_Witch
2015-02-23, 09:45
The Empire, no the entire verse should consider themselves lucky that she only inherited Stylish's research.
Dorothea + Stylish would be unstoppable.
No wonder he died so early.
Imagine had Dorothea beefed up Coro and Seryu.FUUUUUU---
Estzero1
2015-02-23, 09:53
No wonder he died so early.
I would rather say he was stupid. That's why he died.
Stylish created the base but if you compare him to Doro she has a lot more Advantages. I can't imagine that she would turn her self into a danger beast.
Golden_Witch
2015-02-23, 10:15
I would rather say he was stupid. That's why he died.
Stylish created the base but if you compare him to Doro she has a lot more Advantages. I can't imagine that she would turn her self into a danger beast.
From an author and story standpoint not characterwise.
Sometimes, a character has to be killed off solely to prevent something which cannot be resolved.
EG:
Death Note.
Naomi was killed off by the writer cause from she figured things out too fast which would have conflicted the story.
I'm saying what applies here is that Stylish might have been killed off by Takahiro to prevent a complete cooperation with Dorothea which would have caused conflict, cause Dorothea by herself can create a Monster with the potential to rival the Ultimate Teigu.
Cooperation with Stylish alive would have been horribly OP.
And let's not also forget, Dorothea has modified her body. God knows what kind of eldrich abomination she is actually.
Estzero1
2015-02-23, 10:36
And let's not also forget, Dorothea has modified her body. God knows what kind of eldrich abomination she is actually.
Yep, and that's why she is far ahead Stylish. Even without abnormality she could fight. A fact which doesn't fit to Stylish.
The remaining contenders are pretty much powerhouses. We still have yet to see the true extent of Izou's strenght, as well as his teigu that he denies he has one.
This is no laughing matter. With just 3 close ranged combatants Najenda will have to step up her game and contribute to increase Night Raid's manpower.
WingsoftheDragonix
2015-02-23, 10:46
I hope that Tatsumi make sure that Esdeath body it's destroy after their battle. I mean, I'm the only one to fear what would happen if Dorothea get her hands on her body?
Let's just hope Dorothea will be already dead by the time Tatsumi and Esdeath final showdown happens.
WingsoftheDragonix
2015-02-23, 14:48
^I really hope so.
Still, I can't shake the feeling that she will be alive when their showdown will happen.
Wandering Soul
2015-02-23, 16:24
Akame could pull out her trump card to make it more even. Although at that point Leone would end up as fodder material.
We don't even know if Akame's trump card can get past Wave's armor yet though.
So, she still loves him and yet she wants to kill him?? Flawless logic.
So, she still loves him and yet she wants to kill him?? Flawless logic.
You are talking about a woman who adore her subordinates and murders thousands in the same breath, overpowered the embodiment of an ice demon because she was more evil, and is psychologically incapable of understanding that not everyone can choose to be strong.
Logic is not her strong suit.
I have been gone for a little while, are there still people trying to sail the tats icebitch ship?
DeliriousEagle
2015-02-24, 06:02
I have been gone for a little while, are there still people trying to sail the tats icebitch ship?
Until the end, yes.
You are talking about a woman who adore her subordinates and murders thousands in the same breath, overpowered the embodiment of an ice demon because she was more evil, and is psychologically incapable of understanding that not everyone can choose to be strong.
Logic is not her strong suit.
it's very funny.
WingsoftheDragonix
2015-02-24, 16:14
Until the end, yes.
Only until the end? Are you sure about that?
I'm sure they will still ship them even after the ends of the manga.:heh:
Tenzen12
2015-02-24, 18:58
Tatsumi x Esdeath might not be as awesome as Tatsumi x Leone, or as cute as Tatsumi x Mine, but it would be lie claim there is no chemistry, plus die by hands of loved one has certain charm.
Ravagerblade
2015-02-24, 19:33
Tatsumi x Esdeath might not be as awesome as Tatsumi x Leone, or as cute as Tatsumi x Mine, but it would be lie claim there is no chemistry, plus die by hands of loved one has certain charm.
As if Tats and Mine is canon, I'd still prefer Tats and Esdeath atm.
Though for Tats going with either Esdeath or Leone it seems he'd be in the M part while the two ladies are the S. lol
I've said it before though, from what it looks like to me, Esdeath looks like Koko but more hotter and sexier.
Estzero1
2015-02-24, 20:06
@ Tenzen12 & Ravagerblade
I agree with both of you but there is one thing that would beat them all:
http://hh-flow.tumblr.com/image/104843509654
Wandering Soul
2015-02-24, 20:34
Only until the end? Are you sure about that?
I'm sure they will still ship them even after the ends of the manga.:heh:
Hopefully they wont be as bad as the NaruSaku shippers have been:uhoh:
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