Ore no Kanojo to Osananajimi ga Shuraba Sugiru [Light Novel]

[Javani]

Yes she raise the flags.

The last picture in the volume 7:

http://i.imgur.com/M0Wd5wA.jpg

[flooir]

Chiwa winning? I rather have Keita end up with no one.
i feel the same too.

[Shinji103]

Looks to me like the opposite is happening. Quite often, if the MC picks a girl a few volumes before the finale, then that means there will be drama that causes him to "re-evaluate" his choice and go to the other girl.

[Mentar]

You NEVER want to be the girl seemingly "in the lead" in volume 8/10.

Storywise, any ending other than Masuzu would make no sense. The development is exactly according to this plan.

[Lisemer]

I wonder when the authors will learn to don't use those plot devices. We already saw Kuroneko apparently winning in volume 8/12 and then, what happened?
The only ones girls that seem to be winning before the end are Hitagi in the Monogatari series and Sena in Haganai, but we don't know if they will keep their status in the end against the other girls (like Shinobu and Yozora for example. I like the latters more than the formers, but who knows?).

[Miraluka]

This series has lost almost all of its originality that make me get interested in the series.

Now it has become so obvios that you can even touch where the development is heading to... sigh.. just put this series out its misery already.

I would be fine with any girl "winning" Eita but Mazusu, why? Because I never could buy her as a likeable character so I can't get to enjoy her parts in the story with her alone, and I'm not into girls that win because the author played the "Look at her, isn't she pitiful? Love her. NOW." card, it didn't work with Yozora and it won't work here with Mazusu for me.

I wonder when the authors will learn to don't use those plot devices. We already saw Kuroneko apparently winning in volume 8/12 and then, what happened? .
Oh that, time ago I followed the series as a Kuroneko fan but I wasn't so blind to not see that coming, I told my friend she was doomed and the author just wanted to milk the series and got laughed at, now he still is butthurt and the wasted time before that series finale :heh:.

[Mentar]

I would be fine with any girl "winning" Eita but Mazusu, why? Because I never could buy her as a likeable character so I can't get to enjoy her parts in the story with her alone, and I'm not into girls that win because the author played the "Look at her, isn't she pitiful? Love her. NOW." card, it didn't work with Yozora and it won't work here with Mazusu for me.

In case you didn't realize it yet: Eita is very similar to Masuzu, with the exception that he's not as vindictive and bitter. He also detested love when the whole mess started, and he and she have been affected by each other. Having them end up with each other would make the story come full circle.

[Miraluka]

You can't put them on the same level, Eita had bad luck but it wasn't so awful and traumatic that makes any person become broken, he was just scared of failing again and so he spent his time on other activity.

People don't need to be similar to be with each other, there is no guide for coupling in this world :heh:. Btw, it doesn't changes that the developments towards the end of the series has become more cliche than ever.

[Mentar]

"Cliche developments" usually merely translates to "I don't like what's happening, but I pretend that it's poor storywriting objectively to make me feel better". I'm perfectly fine with the story development as is, and no, this "inverse" development of having the female lead gradually developing feelings for the male lead while this is causing him to more and more slip out of her reach is very nonstandard and thus non-cliche.

You don't like Masuzu, I get it. The overarching theme of the LN as I see it is how two people who are both genuinely anti-romance see their convictions gradually whittled down by dealing with each other. Now, it could also be "how a friendzoned Osananajimi managed to get her message through to him in the long run", but I don't think so.

In any case, I'm following it with sufficient curiosity.

[larethian]

This series has lost almost all of its originality that make me get interested in the series.

Now it has become so obvios that you can even touch where the development is heading to... sigh.. just put this series out its misery already.

I would be fine with any girl "winning" Eita but Mazusu, why? Because I never could buy her as a likeable character so I can't get to enjoy her parts in the story with her alone, and I'm not into girls that win because the author played the "Look at her, isn't she pitiful? Love her. NOW." card, it didn't work with Yozora and it won't work here with Mazusu for me.
I didn't want to comment but this kind of comment really gets to me and I have to chime in. In the first place, how does "obvious" even tie up with "originality"? In this time and day, words like 'original/non-original' and 'cliche' are convenient words used by naysayers to label series they don't like without the need to form compelling arguments with specific examples and comparisons, which can only be done if one is intimate with the series one's comparing. I've seen many a times the same naysayers happen to conveniently avoid or argue against other naysayers who use these same words for series they like. Thus you will never catch me using these words.

I'm pretty intimate with this series and I have to say that this series has one of the most consistent recurring themes I've ever read in love comedies, making it rather well-written in my opinion. There are many other good or better ones for sure, but it's hard to find one that sticks to its theme (Shuraba x Ji-En-Otsu in OreShura's case) this closely and faithfully volume after volume. One of the other few contenders I can think of that has such coherence in its writing is Sakurasou.

On the note of the end, the story is set up for one of these ends:
1. Masuzu
2. Chiwa
3. Open (pseudo-harem) end

Any other end just does not make sense at all. Some people did make some good points in "defeat in romance...." thread which I agree with. It's not about how much you like a girl or dislike a girl, but whether you can buy the pairing based on author's intention and given developments along the way (and to do this, you have to see it as a literary work, and not just something that fulfills the reader's personal wishes). There's absolutely nothing wrong with a character having a 'tragic' past; what would be wrong would be if it's the author forcing that setting down your throat in a jarring or nonsensical way or in a way that's incoherent to the development of the story, past and present. FYI, the author did not just pull out a "pity" card all of a sudden. The development between Eita and Masuzu already began right at the beginning, and had a more or less consistent build-up, and it was already well-hinted that Masuzu has a 'tragic' past since volume 2. Heck, when a girl has that kind of bad personality, it should make anyone wonder what happened in her past (that happened to Eita heh). I made several points on that in the first few pages. It's only recently that Chiwa's development sky-rocketed. Now if it's Chiwa's end at the very end, that will be something I can't buy fully, primarily because of how the weightage suddenly shifted in the story (giving off a feeling like the author suddenly changing his mind), and not definitely because I have any issues with Chiwa herself. Well, initially I could buy her ending but it got less and less viable as we progress towards volume 4, then wham, it got viable again, though Masuzu's still strong in her flags. Sure, you can dislike Masuzu, but if you are saying this series turns to shit and that you can't buy such an ending, then either you are not reading it carefully enough, or you are not seeing it as a literary work from a holistic approach. That's my 2 cents.

Just for the record, there are quite a number of series where I'd very much prefer the alternate (non-main) girl winning but I can absolutely buy the final pairing. Toradora and Otaria for example just to name a few.

As for Haganai, it's still unknown whether Yozora will win. That's because Sena got a lot of development (actually it seems more sensible Sena will win unless the author made a mistake in his developments). I know many people like Rika and I don't dislike her too, but it will be hard to swallow her end if I'm looking at the series as a whole.

I wonder when the authors will learn to don't use those plot devices. We already saw Kuroneko apparently winning in volume 8/12 and then, what happened?
The only ones girls that seem to be winning before the end are Hitagi in the Monogatari series and Sena in Haganai, but we don't know if they will keep their status in the end against the other girls (like Shinobu and Yozora for example. I like the latters more than the formers, but who knows?).
Oh that, time ago I followed the series as a Kuroneko fan but I wasn't so blind to not see that coming, I told my friend she was doomed and the author just wanted to milk the series and got laughed at, now he still is butthurt and the wasted time before that series finale :heh:.
I'm kind of sick of this Oreimo being stated as example again and again.
The problem with Oreimo is how the author set up the series initially vs the 2nd half.
If it were apparent that it was mainly a romance series (and not having romance as secondary theme), then the law of the cover girl would suggest that Kirino will win. If one sees it as a romance series between brother and sister right at the beginning, then the developments from the beginning will make sense to support this.
The main problem is, to a number of us who have read a decent number of light novels before Oreimo, we did not fathom it to have sibling romance as its main theme, but sibling reconciliation as a main theme and romance as a secondary theme. As such, Kyousuke x Kuroneko as main pairing becomes viable in light of this. Since volume 8, a number of us already felt trolled. If it were only a handful of us, then it could be our fault. But from what I've seen, it's not just a handful of us who thought like that. That's why there's so much angst around. Note that while I don't like incest pairings generally, I can buy it in fiction if it's set up properly, with a platonic feel. My main gripe with Oreimo was a combination of 2 factors:
1. I did not fathom it being a sibling romance series from the beginning
2. the brocon factor shown in the first half is strong but not abnormally strong to be taken as romantic feelings (means it can be taken either way), and it only became apparent in the 2nd half. This means that for a person to buy this pairing, they must already expect a sibling romance story right from the beginning.

[Miraluka]

@Mentar

No, cliche isn't a bad thing by itself, is bad when isn't played well. When is well done you can even forget when A and B character is the childhood friend and tsundere type putting that aside and enjoy it, that is what makes it original.


I'm perfectly fine with the story development as is, and no, this "inverse" development of having the female lead gradually developing feelings for the male lead while this is causing him to more and more slip out of her reach is very nonstandard and thus non-cliche.
Really? The way you put it made think of ZnT in a flash.

@Larethian

About your claim about originality, see what I told Menthar.

Thus you will never catch me using these words.
I don't even want to "catch" you =___=.

Sure, you can dislike Masuzu, but if you are saying this series turns to shit and that you can't buy such an ending, then either you are not reading it carefully enough, or you are not seeing it as a literary work from a holistic approach. That's my 2 cents.
Except for the fact I didn't say this series became shit.. don't put words into others post, please :rolleyes:.

If I don't buy her character that's another thing, a very personal, just like some don't buy Tatsuya from Mahouka or Kirito from SAO. I won't deny her developments and if she ends with Eita because that's the author work, not mine, I just have to accept it, isn't like I can do anything against that, you know?
For example, I'm fan of Itsuwa and Kaori from Index series and sure damn I ship Touma with the former but I'm pretty well aware that the only character that occupies a big space on Touma's heart is Index(to the point of dying twice for her) so I'm ready if she ends with him :heh:. Others has no chance.

I'm kind of sick of this Oreimo being stated as example again and again.
That's because the series is a recent example. The series was about imouto and as such it had to end about imouto.

[Mentar]

I'm perfectly fine with the story development as is, and no, this "inverse" development of having the female lead gradually developing feelings for the male lead while this is causing him to more and more slip out of her reach is very nonstandard and thus non-cliche.

@Mentar

No, cliche isn't a bad thing by itself, is bad when isn't played well. When is well done you can even forget when A and B character is the childhood friend and tsundere type putting that aside and enjoy it, that is what makes it original.

Pleeeeeeease. In ZnT, Louise is clearly in love with Saito from Volume 1. And Saito is most certainly not "slipping away" from her over the course of the show. It is always clear beyond any doubt what the true pairing is.

Sorry. I'm with Larethian here. "Cliche" is merely a sloppy blanket criticism without real meaning other than "I don't like it, but I don't want to bother voicing a proper complaint". And OreShura is certainly quite different from the vast majority of LNs out there.

[Birdway]

ZnT? I remember Luise running away every single damn time Saito feels something for other girls(it was Louise' fault anyway) and wasn't the novel heading towards an harem route? Tabitha was confessing on vol.20.. too bad the author died.

To me is kind of obvious here in Oreshura Mazusu is gonna win, isn't she the main girl afterall?



Sorry. I'm with Larethian here. "Cliche" is merely a sloppy blanket criticism without real meaning other than "I don't like it, but I don't want to bother voicing a proper complaint". And OreShura is certainly quite different from the vast majority of LNs out there.
Btw, what's wrong with cliches? You can find them everywhere even in the most succesful series, just look at MPMM. Oh, what I bolded is no different from what nay-naysayers' would do to disacredit others opinion. You would be in the same bag of people who label others as haters for the same reasons.

[larethian]

ZnT? I remember Luise running away every single damn time Saito feels something for other girls(it was Louise' fault anyway) and wasn't the novel heading towards an harem route? Tabitha was confessing on vol.20.. too bad the author died.

To me is kind of obvious here in Oreshura Mazusu is gonna win, isn't she the main girl afterall?



Btw, what's wrong with cliches? You can find them everywhere even in the most succesful series, just look at MPMM. Oh, what I bolded is no different from what nay-naysayers' would do to disacredit others opinion. You would be in the same bag of people who label others as haters for the same reasons.
You realize that it's one thing to say "I don't like it, but I don't want to bother voicing a proper complaint" and another thing to say "This is cliche, thus it's shit"? It may be the same to you but different to me. The first is an expression of an opinion which I couldn't care less, but the later is more like an assertion of a fact.

[Birdway]

You realize that it's one thing to say "I don't like it, but I don't want to bother voicing a proper complaint" and another thing to say "This is cliche, thus it's shit"? It may be the same to you but different to me. The first is an expression of an opinion which I couldn't care less, but the later is more like an assertion of a fact.
Quote where I or other said it's shit, please. I don't see them as the same but isn't fair to say others are into the later just because it bothered you.

[larethian]

Quote where I or other said it's shit, please. I don't see them as the same but isn't fair to say others are into the later just because it bothered you.

You mean you've never seen people shit-flaming a series using generic and cliche as reasons? Sometimes they don't use the exact word 'shit', but my point is, the criticisms are unwarranted and unsubstantiated many times, based on misinformation or prejudgments. When people use these words without compelling arguments because they are lazy, it's going to of course become bait for the lovers of a series. And yes, I am bothered when people use narrow views to judge something. But, for the record, I have criticized every series I loved and even series I translated, and given some sort of praise to nearly every series I disliked primarily because I read them before making strong criticisms on them (only exception being IS though I also read what was being translated), because I tend to look at things holistically. Maybe that's precisely why I'm bothered. If you are not bothered when someone shit-flames a series you like without giving a proper reason other than calling it 'generic', then great for you. We are not on the same page here and I respect your own way of reacting or not-reacting.

I don't want to single out people here, partly because I don't want to further digress to explain why I'm bothered by something or not bothered by something that certain people did. At least not in this thread. But if you want an example of when 'generic' and 'shit' appears together, you can even find it in signatures if you look for it. There's also an instance where someone with a strong prejudice with WSJ calling everything it has shit and generic shounen then starts babbling about how the editors work and push for series to run when it's far from the truth. Anyway, I'm starting to do what I didn't want to do. You can just keep an eye on all the posts in "Upcoming Series" threads from now on and you will bound to see it one day.

Peace.

[Used Can]

To be honest, even if someone explains why they think a story is generic or shitty, or why a particular scene and/or development was clichéd, what they say still is an opinion. It's an opinion they've bothered to explain, but an opinion nonetheless.

Anyway, welcome back larethian. You were missed man.

[cloudii]

Chinese translators have started their work on volume 7. Hummhumm... xD

On the topic of my personal opinion, I don't think OreShura is as cliche as it could be. It keeps tumbling into the deeper side of all the characters. In fact, that's probably why I enjoy OreShura.

Fakeness and Realness -- Yuuji Yuuji really addresses what it means to love someone and the dynamics of those feelings (whether it be insecurities or doubts, or all the loads of feelings you can get while liking someone). It's much more complicated than the character tropes that are initially projected over them.

[Okashira]

The story is not the most breath taking original of the lot, but that doesn't mean that it's the most predictable of them all. The fact that pretty much everything that has gone so far has been dependant of character relationships has been pretty helpful; and has made some stuff harder to foresee (like, I would have never expected Hime from all people to mature some, nor to "get rid" of the convenient class seat arrangement, and Eita actually having his comical fear of "losing 1st place due to shuraba" was not what I was predicting in the least).

I'm very happy that some classic shounen romcom clichés like 'some random bishounen trying to oppose Eita with "I'm better for her"' or 'some random omai partner "fighting to win Masuzu"' have not been invoked so far.


“NUWAAAAN what should we dooooooooooo!” (*tears*)


♥♥♥♥ This is really great

edit : Oh, japanzai released another manga chapter.

[larethian]

Finally started on v7.
Am I supposed to give spoilers? Or wait for the translations?
Summary of my impression of chapter 0
JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJo!!!!

[anonfr]

Finally started on v7.
Am I supposed to give spoilers? Or wait for the translations?
Summary of my impression of chapter 0
JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJo!!!!

did you jojo all that yourself? Or was there some copy paste involved? I always wonder these things.

[Okashira]

Finally started on v7.
Am I supposed to give spoilers? Or wait for the translations?

JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJoJo JoJoJoJoJo!!!!


ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ

Translations go by chronogical order, so there are some months away from reaching the current volume (in fact, they haven't still taken over the previous summaries, it can't be helped with all of them pages in a novel). My vote? Do what pleases you.

Oh, speaking of, doesn't someone know what the insult ニワカ means? one of the puns that I wasn't able to get, it has been bothering me for months :heh:

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http://i.imgur.com/zg4sCBol.jpg (http://imgur.com/zg4sCBo)


Mana-chan ♥♥♥

For those wondering, the manga is still not done with LN vol 4, and they have been taking their sweet time in a semi detailed adaptation of the volume. I'm hoping for the manga to do volume 5, as well; but it looks like it's going to be a while before they get to start that out (they just started the contest, we are close to Masuzu's confession scene, though).

[Birdway]

I'm very happy that some classic shounen romcom clichés like 'some random bishounen trying to oppose Eita with "I'm better for her"' or 'some random omai partner "fighting to win Masuzu"' have not been invoked so far.
That barely hapes with harem oriented series.

[larethian]

ゴゴゴゴゴゴゴゴ

Translations go by chronogical order, so there are some months away from reaching the current volume (in fact, they haven't still taken over the previous summaries, it can't be helped with all of them pages in a novel). My vote? Do what pleases you.

Oh, speaking of, doesn't someone know what the insult ニワカ means? one of the puns that I wasn't able to get, it has been bothering me for months :heh:

? Are you translating it? I thought Cloud was?? ニワカ = noob (on 2ch)
If someone's translating at decent rate, I'd be too lazy to spoil.
Read till chapter 4 last night.
Chapter 0 seems to be for the readers (so that we don't misunderstand Masuzu like Eita) and JoJo fans lol lol. You get to know Masuzu is more of a fan of the Ripple arcs as opposed to the Stand arcs lol lol. Jonathon and Joseph were more impactful for her lol lol.

[Okashira]

? Are you translating it? I thought Cloud was?? ニワカ = noob (on 2ch)
If someone's translating at decent rate, I'd be too lazy to spoil.
Read till chapter 4 last night.
Chapter 0 seems to be for the readers (so that we don't misunderstand Masuzu like Eita) and JoJo fans lol lol. You get to know Masuzu is more of a fan of the Ripple arcs as opposed to the Stand arcs lol lol. Jonathon and Joseph were more impactful for her lol lol.

So Masuzu is also into Sto-sama? :heh: I somehow understand her statement, when I first read jojo the first 2 parts left a really big impact on me; I still comment with friends stuff like "that fight, made me a fan". It also depends on "when" one starts out, after all some parts are much more fabulous than others.

Oh, there are 2 translators appointed, and none of them is me :heh: however since they seem to be working from the chinese translation and I'm reading the japanese version, I give myself the work of checking any name changes or sentences that didn't carry over properly (a lot of jokes are tweaked or not understood by the chinese side. Some even omited). I'm also the jojo neta dictionary :heh:

Right now vol 5 & 6 are being worked on, and next will be 6.5, so there it will be a while before 7 gets some love.

[anonfr]

I'm very happy that some classic shounen romcom clichés like 'some random bishounen trying to oppose Eita with "I'm better for her"' or 'some random omai partner "fighting to win Masuzu"' have not been invoked so far.



What if it was some random bishounen who had her father's approval and was a huge Jojo otaku. Then we'd know some real drama is gonna go down. He'll argue that he's better with an assault of Jojo references mixed into his words, and we'll say "maybe.. maybe you're right."


That barely hapes with harem oriented series.

It happens enough to be annoyed by it though. Moreso in manga than LN's as far as I can judge though.

? Are you translating it? I thought Cloud was?? ニワカ = noob (on 2ch)
If someone's translating at decent rate, I'd be too lazy to spoil.
Read till chapter 4 last night.
Chapter 0 seems to be for the readers (so that we don't misunderstand Masuzu like Eita) and JoJo fans lol lol. You get to know Masuzu is more of a fan of the Ripple arcs as opposed to the Stand arcs lol lol. Jonathon and Joseph were more impactful for her lol lol.

The Translations probably won't catch up for months so any spoilers would be deeply appreciated. If you happen to have the time and energy that is. You're in control, we are powerless against you.

Side Note: I did not know that she preferred the ripples arc. That's interesting, trivia wise at least. Thanks!

[larethian]

It happens enough to be annoyed by it though. Moreso in manga than LN's as far as I can judge though.



The Translations probably won't catch up for months so any spoilers would be deeply appreciated. If you happen to have the time and energy that is. You're in control, we are powerless against you.

Side Note: I did not know that she preferred the ripples arc. That's interesting, trivia wise at least. Thanks!

I don't want to demotivate translators' motivation now that it's being picked up.

[GenesiD]

This LN is quite fun. I'm happy to see that it gets updated regularly every 2-3 days.
There is no way Masuzu does not end up with Eita in the end. She is the end girl. If it's somehow Chiwa then the whole plot becomes moot IMO. Hopefully volume 8 is released soon.

[larethian]

Actually after reading v7 a month ago.......
Don't read my spoiler if you want to use your own judgment as my judgment may be imperfect or overly pessimistic/optimistic.
Chiwa being end girl is pretty high now. Masuzu and open end are still pretty much possible though. That's why I don't want to talk about it. I'll put it at 40-30-30, with Chiwa leading.

[Okashira]

Actually after reading v8 a month ago.......
Don't read my spoiler if you want to use your own judgment as my judgment may be imperfect or overly pessimistic/optimistic.
Chiwa being end girl is pretty high now. Masuzu and open end are still pretty much possible though. That's why I don't want to talk about it. I'll put it at 40-30-30, with Chiwa leading.

Spoiler tag probably means vol 7, right? Many of the reviews I have read kinda agree with your stand by the way.

Personally I do feel that the author is building more on the title name sake. After all the first 4 volumes Masuzu got all the juicy bits; and Chiwa had a much lesser serious chance. But after vol 4 (actually, on the very same epilogue of vol 4) I really got this feeling that the author is trying to build things in a way where we can't tell which of them is going to be; and he started that by compensating Chiwa's initial "lagging behind".

[larethian]

Spoiler tag probably means vol 7, right? Many of the reviews I have read kinda agree with your stand by the way.

Personally I do feel that the author is building more on the title name sake. After all the first 4 volumes Masuzu got all the juicy bits; and Chiwa had a much lesser serious chance. But after vol 4 (actually, on the very same epilogue of vol 4) I really got this feeling that the author is trying to build things in a way where we can't tell which of them is going to be; and he started that by compensating Chiwa's initial "lagging behind".

Oh yeah lol, dumb mistake :heh:

I actually read this quite carefully, trying to catch things in between the lines:
I can see how Yuuji Yuuji took a year to release this volume. My guess is that he kind of wrote the end girl to tend towards Masuzu along the way (since she is the best girl with best antics :heh:) when he intended Chiwa to be the end girl. While I don't disagree with the possibility of yours, from another angle, he may be trying to fix his 'mistake' in v7 and it took him a long time to figure how to do it convincingly.

It was not easy but he did a rather good job imo. The way volume 7 was written, if Chiwa becomes the end girl, it will not feel forced nor unsatisfactory. The key point being the BOND (between Eita and Chiwa), which was repeatedly emphasized in an artful way in the volume. The 3 key people who have the most credibility in understanding Eita talked about this unbreakable BOND: namely Eita's aunt, Kaoru, and Masuzu (the former 2 knew Eita and Chiwa for a long time, and the later got a good grasp through his Chuuni notebook).

Why I said artful, is because, instead of pushing Eita to suddenly develop feelings for Chiwa (even though he did become a little more conscious of her this volume), Yuuji Yuuji is trying to sell us the idea through 3rd parties (to the readers and not to Eita) and that Eita himself may not be aware of that BOND that resides in his heart (a plot device that is not that rare in romance series).

Of course, notwithstanding, it's still possible for things to swing back to Masuzu given how Yuuji Yuuji managed to sell me on Chiwa possibility in just 2 volumes, after I was so set into believing that Masuzu is a (almost) confirmed end.

Either that, or, now that Chiwa score has been raised. things could come back to both Chiwa and Masuzu being on equal footing, and it ends as an open end with Eita being unable to decide yet, and Chiwa and Masuzu going back to their usual antics (this time with a smile on their faces), and the Shuraba between Chiwa and Masuzu continues. Though for this to happen to gel with the title, Masuzu must go back to becoming a fake GF. But open end can still happen even without this kind of development of course.

[Used Can]

Though for this to happen to gel with the title, Masuzu must go back to becoming a fake GF. But open end can still happen even without this kind of development of course.
I doubt she'll go back to being his fake GF, since both other them seem to have moved on past that. Not to mention Masuzu even decided to cheer for Chiwa during this volume - though from the comments I've read in 2ch (I'm yet to read the volume myself), it seems she decided to go after Eita again by the end of the volume after whatever happened.

That being said, if Masuzu wants to go head-to-head with Chiwa, a fake relationship won't work - especially not that this point. She'll have to build up a real relationship with Eita (not lovers, could be just friends), and even then she'll still be lagging, since Chiwa has many years being Eita's closest friend, and his prime motivation to become a doctor.

Oh, I almost forgot there's the issue that Eita's mother came back this volume. I suppose volume 8 will be quite interesting.

[SVLay]

Is there any new spoilers for volume 7?

[Yye1]

Hi, new reader here, I was flipping through the images of the volumes and noticed that character profiles are based on some sort of game, like Vol 6 being based off Super Robot Wars, can someone tell me what the others are?

Also, based on the discussions of the later volumes, I am guessing Ai doesnt stand a chance?

[bastek66]

Is this next volume cover or what?
http://i.imgur.com/b9e1azHl.jpg (http://imgur.com/b9e1azH)

[Somethindarker]

Oh yeah lol, dumb mistake :heh:

I actually read this quite carefully, trying to catch things in between the lines:
I can see how Yuuji Yuuji took a year to release this volume. My guess is that he kind of wrote the end girl to tend towards Masuzu along the way (since she is the best girl with best antics :heh:) when he intended Chiwa to be the end girl. While I don't disagree with the possibility of yours, from another angle, he may be trying to fix his 'mistake' in v7 and it took him a long time to figure how to do it convincingly.

It was not easy but he did a rather good job imo. The way volume 7 was written, if Chiwa becomes the end girl, it will not feel forced nor unsatisfactory. The key point being the BOND (between Eita and Chiwa), which was repeatedly emphasized in an artful way in the volume. The 3 key people who have the most credibility in understanding Eita talked about this unbreakable BOND: namely Eita's aunt, Kaoru, and Masuzu (the former 2 knew Eita and Chiwa for a long time, and the later got a good grasp through his Chuuni notebook).

Why I said artful, is because, instead of pushing Eita to suddenly develop feelings for Chiwa (even though he did become a little more conscious of her this volume), Yuuji Yuuji is trying to sell us the idea through 3rd parties (to the readers and not to Eita) and that Eita himself may not be aware of that BOND that resides in his heart (a plot device that is not that rare in romance series).

Of course, notwithstanding, it's still possible for things to swing back to Masuzu given how Yuuji Yuuji managed to sell me on Chiwa possibility in just 2 volumes, after I was so set into believing that Masuzu is a (almost) confirmed end.

Either that, or, now that Chiwa score has been raised. things could come back to both Chiwa and Masuzu being on equal footing, and it ends as an open end with Eita being unable to decide yet, and Chiwa and Masuzu going back to their usual antics (this time with a smile on their faces), and the Shuraba between Chiwa and Masuzu continues. Though for this to happen to gel with the title, Masuzu must go back to becoming a fake GF. But open end can still happen even without this kind of development of course.

Going from a strictly formulaic point of view Masuzu was intended from the beginning to be the end girl. Personally I think these latest novels with Chiwa is either him exploring the characters or bringing out a serious contender. Although the former is more likely.

Now just because Masuzu is the formula girl doesn't mean the author won't throw a curveball and end it with Chiwa or Ai(my pick).

[Bakaizer]

an open end would be annoying as heck,
but i would prefer masuzu or ai as my pick

looking forward for the next volume

[mark1246]

So i saw the pic from vol 8 and I have no idea who this girl is? anyone know who and why this happen? (it happen in the end of the vol)

SO i was a dumb and forgot that anime suki remove the ability to insert picture from your computer and only use pic from the internet, so it the main guy kissing a girl, but it not one of the main 4 girls, someone different i think)

[Kwikk]

So i saw the pic from vol 8 and I have no idea who this girl is? anyone know who and why this happen? (it happen in the end of the vol)


I don't know. Maybe Masuzu?

http://i.imgur.com/GDQl72s.jpg

EDIT: On 2ch people said it's Masuzu.

[Used Can]

I'll repost what I, mistakenly, posted in the manga thread.

Which volume is this page from:

http://i.imgur.com/aZzGvqU.jpg

Is it perhaps a hoax?

And I hope it is:

http://i.imgur.com/NMRWKNF.jpg
This sounds... silly.
I'm almost certain it's a hoax, but I'm sharing it, just in case.
It's funny, in any case.


The first page says:
Eita grabs Masuzu and she resists, saying it would be bad for Chiwa if she sees them.
Then Eita tells her she's the one he wants to help right now and then kisses her.

The second page says:
Eita says he wants to help Chiwa, Masuzu, Hime and Ai. He says that he loves them all, but he wants to remain anti-love regardless. Then he says he wants to become a harem king.
Thus why I'm calling hoax on those two pages.
That being said, seeing the image posted in this thread, perhaps these pages aren't a hoax, and Eita is just bullshiting.

Uh... It seems I screwed up in my translation... In the last spoiler tag Eita is saying:
He'll become a fake harem king.
I guess I'll just translate it properly. This is for the second page I posted:

I'll help you.
Same with Chiwa, Masuzu, Hime and A-chan.
I'll gather you up, and I will love you.
However, I'll give my heart to no one.
I'll definitely fall for no one.
As an Anti-Love, I'll love all of you.

This will be the birth of the most popular and lonesome man.

Love crazed people, pay attention!
Tremble and fear before me!

The fake harem-king.

From now on, that will be my dream!

Now, that makes a lot more sense.

[bastek66]

Honestly I think Harem-king ending is only fitting for series with very powerful MC, like a demon lord. Not when he's normal guy.

[Used Can]

Nah... There's no way things will work for Eita.

First, notice he said FAKE harem-king.
Second, the reason he's doing this is likely to keep the status quo, probably because he's too much of a coward to actually reject anyone.

Hime had already given up on him when he learned about his fake relationship with Masuzu, on grounds she thought him and her made a good couple.
Masuzu had already given up on him saying he should be with Chiwa.
Some other spoiler for volume 9 said Ai was willing to give up on him too, but asked him to tell her he loved Chiwa, before she could move on from her feelings for him.

So, even though the girls have been willing to step aside so that he can go for Chiwa, he couldn't make a choice and decided for this fake harem king stuff, and ended up kissing Masuzu as a result of that choice, effectively fooling her.

I'm sure this is very likely going to come back to bite him in the ass.

[runset]

- Ai just told keita to confess to chiwa. She just told him to tell her that he loved chiwa and if they finally became a couple, then she might finally can give up on keita.
- Ai torn her own wedding contract (the promise to marry paper that they made when they're still small) and told keita that she want to just become happy and stay beside with him. If this memories stand in their way, then she doesn't need it anymore. She only need to make more and new happy memories wit him.
- Ai who is walking together with keita while crying meet "the source of the problem" that made keita into an anti love.
-Keita who doesn't want to go home decide to stay in ai's place for a while.
- Masuzu get a call from her dad and he told her something unbelieveable...

[rtyui45678]

- Ai just told keita to confess to chiwa. She just told him to tell her that he loved chiwa and if they finally became a couple, then she might finally can give up on keita.
- Ai torn her own wedding contract (the promise to marry paper that they made when they're still small) and told keita that she want to just become happy and stay beside with him. If this memories stand in their way, then she doesn't need it anymore. She only need to make more and new happy memories wit him.
- Ai who is walking together with keita while crying meet "the source of the problem" that made keita into an anti love.
-Keita who doesn't want to go home decide to stay in ai's place for a while.
- Masuzu get a call from her dad and he told her something unbelieveable...


NOOOO I DONT WANT HIM TO END UP WITH CHIWA! KEITA X AUNT 4life

harem king ending is good too.

[Used Can]

You'll have better luck reading Ai's manga spinoff if you want an Ai end, than reading the LN.

[Pablete]

Feels like the author is trying to "hide" Masuzu is the end girl. Isn't working on me and I don't buy it.

[Shinji103]

Feels like the author is trying to "hide" Masuzu is the end girl. Isn't working on me and I don't buy it.Same. As I always point out, when the author is making it look like a girl is going to lose right before the end, that girl usually wins.

[MK-95-]

Same. As I always point out, when the author is making it look like a girl is going to lose right before the end, that girl usually wins.

Ditto. This statement is so true.

--------------------------------------
A very biased opinion: I've never really liked Chiwa, so her being the end girl will kinda piss me off. I'm a Masuzu shipper, but I'll be glad once the end girl isn't Chiwa tbh.

[Used Can]

I don't know about making it look as if Masuzu is about to lose. But the last 3 volumes have given Chiwa a much needed leverage, and she's no longer some gag-childhood friend who's only there to get crushed by the competition.
Before volume 6 no one would have found believable that Chiwa could have a chance. You couldn't even call this a love-triangle since Masuzu was curb-stomping everyone else so hard it wasn't even funny.

Now the roles have changed, Chiwa is the one with the best position now, and not through bullshit, but the author going the logical route that Eita and Chiwa's relationship would be the strongest considering they've been the longest together, and that Chiwa is really important to Eita.

I don't particularly like Chiwa - she's easily the girl I like the least - but what the author has done makes sense.

[Mentar]

Agreed on the count: In a love duel, the last thing you want to do is peak in the second-to-last volume. This is where the standard drama arc demands that the hero(ine)s be on their knees.

Rooting for Masuzu ending. Because intellectually, she is the correct match for Eita.

[MK-95-]

^Seconded. Exactly, they compliment each other perfectly. I'm not saying this because I'm a Masuzu shipper. I'm saying this from a completely objective viewpoint.

Their interests (namely Jojo XD), problems (family issues, etc...) & even anti-love issue all match up. What does any other heroine have that can compliment Eita to this degree?

[OhHaiThar]

May the rule of first volume girl be broken.

[Lexxus]

Damnnnnn. I'll be seriously pissed off if Chiwa win this. Also, Poor Ai :(

[kyseka]

I'mstill hoping the author throws in a surprise ai ending I mean that would be gr8. Masuzu end would still be nice and logical now thoug. ANYTHING but Chiwa. All her recent developments were way too sudden and the only backstory we got was "Oh she was hit by a truck and can't do kendo anymore." and that's that. Kind of vague so a Chiwa end would just feel like a convenient way out .
Pretty much this. Chiwa is worst girl and I really hope she doesn't win. That being said, of course I'm not going to kill myself of worst girl wins this novel. Just really hoping she doesn't. Ai is the best, but Masuzu being end girl would be okay.

[Miraluka]

I'mstill hoping the author throws in a surprise ai ending I mean that would be gr8. Masuzu end would still be nice and logical now thoug. ANYTHING but Chiwa. All her recent developments were way too sudden and the only backstory we got was "Oh she was hit by a truck and can't do kendo anymore." and that's that. Kind of vague so a Chiwa end would just feel like a convenient way out .

The world only God knows did something far beyond lame than what you think of Chiwa.

Here Chiwa made Eita to think about his future to say the least.

[Lexxus]

The world only God knows did something far beyond lame than what you think of Chiwa.

Wow. I can't believe I ran into someone who I share the same views I had when I finished reading that manga. I thought most people will say the author did the great job with it :heh:

[Miraluka]

Wow. I can't believe I ran into someone who I share the same views I had when I finished reading that manga. I thought most people will say the author did the great job with it :heh:

It seems you didn't read the posts there? I was the very first person who commented on the last chapter when it was released :p

For me it was like:

> I hurt her.
> I feel bad for it.
> Thus I love her?

The author changed it aftewards in the tank version due the... not so warm reception.

[sayf82]

It seems you didn't read the posts there? I was the very first person who commented on the last chapter when it was released :p

For me it was like:

> I hurt her.
> I feel bad for it.
> Thus I love her?

The author changed it aftewards in the tank version due the... not so warm reception.

what its the difference in the tankōbon, can you tell please?

[Miraluka]

The goddesses didn't give up.

[Devaki]

The author changed it aftewards in the tank version due the... not so warm reception.

Nah, I would not arguing whether you like the ending or not, but just want to straight it up that the tankobon version did not changed any significant things from the last chapter.

Just like any other tankobon version, it contains additional panel, fixed dialogue etc. but the author did not changed the ending like you claimed, it's actually make the ending "more" better though.

And about this.

The goddesses didn't give up.



If any, it was only Yui's new fixed dialogue about how she would not give up because she was attractive or something like that.

There is no anything changed for all other Goddesses from original last chapter except for Tenri and Diana get additional panel and dialogues.

[clarkken228]

Is this LN still being translated? It's been a while since the last update

[Murakami Kai]

Ai-Chan better get a Dai-Shouri for this. Honestly I couldn't care. But if she won, I'd be happy. Mostly because I find her the most interesting and hilarious to watch. Right along side Himeka. But I like her outbursts more.

http://25.media.tumblr.com/0ef417775b8eb8de17e411b439a44df7/tumblr_micsg8z2ce1rxzudco1_500.gif

[Mentar]

After reading Volume 7 chapter 0 (which explains Masuzu's background story and how she got how she is nowadays), my determination to root for a Masuzu ending has tripled!

[Murakami Kai]

Masuzu is Jojo's daughter from a moe-ish anime. No wonder she loves it so much even in High School.

[ghost013]

It's been a while since I last checked this series, but did it end? Who won?

[clarkken228]

It's been a while since I last checked this series, but did it end? Who won?

AFAIK, we didn't know yet. In vol 8 he kissed Masuzu and said he would be a harem king :heh:

[tsunade666]

^what? is that for real?

what is the latest development? I haven't heard anything about this series lately.

[clarkken228]

- Ai just told keita to confess to chiwa. She just told him to tell her that he loved chiwa and if they finally became a couple, then she might finally can give up on keita.
- Ai torn her own wedding contract (the promise to marry paper that they made when they're still small) and told keita that she want to just become happy and stay beside with him. If this memories stand in their way, then she doesn't need it anymore. She only need to make more and new happy memories wit him.
- Ai who is walking together with keita while crying meet "the source of the problem" that made keita into an anti love.
-Keita who doesn't want to go home decide to stay in ai's place for a while.
- Masuzu get a call from her dad and he told her something unbelieveable...


There. Hope there would be a translation soon :heh:
Page 15 has spoilers

[SamVision]

In vol 8 he kissed Masuzu and said he would be a harem king
I think I laughed for five minutes straight after reading this.

[vienx]

AFAIK, we didn't know yet. In vol 8 he kissed Masuzu and said he would be a harem king :heh:

is it true he said that ?
but with japan's culture which doesnt accept polygamy it seems impossible
although i am always rooting for harem route for every harem series out there XD

[clarkken228]

is it true he said that ?
but with japan's culture which doesnt accept polygamy it seems impossible
although i am always rooting for harem route for every harem series out there XD

It was most likely his fooling around. Read page 15 of this thread for more info

[XFire]

is it true he said that ?
but with japan's culture which doesnt accept polygamy it seems impossible
although i am always rooting for harem route for every harem series out there XD

Specifically, he said he'd be a "Fake" Harem king. Meaning he's basically abandoning any real feelings he had for the girls, and choosing to make them all happy instead of resolving the situation.

[AP24]

Just saw the final chapter of the manga and looks like it ended at the same place where the anime ended. Guess I'll have to read the LN to know what happens after the anime.

[mark1246]

vol 9 is out and excited to see what happen

[Somethindarker]

vol 9 is out and excited to see what happen

There's been two spoiler's I've seen.



1. Silver wins there's a confrontation between Chiwas and Silver because early in the novel Silver gives up and let's Eita go which Chiwa responds by slapping and telling her that winning Eita that way is not fair for any of them. The usual drama ensues and finally Eita chooses Silver while Chiwa and Ai adamantly respond to never give up on him.

2. Is harem/friendship end. Eita chooses none of them instead going the fake harem king route because he comes to the realization that he and none of the girls are ready for a real relationship. The girls and Eita keep in constant contact with each other, he comes back from a study abroad session and to their horror he introduces them to a girl from his class who's his girlfriend. Funny harem ending.

[Estzero1]

Hope it's Option 1. Sounds fine to me.
Option 2 btw could be a perfect Troll Ending.
Still it's inacceptable.

[Murakami Kai]

You mean UNacceptable. UN makes all the difference. Cause you can't undo shit like trolling a girls feelings. Not unless you're a time traveler like Trunks.

[Estzero1]

You mean UNacceptable. UN makes all the difference. Cause you can't undo shit like trolling a girls feelings. Not unless you're a time traveler like Trunks.

Sry my bad. That was a result of denglish :D.
But yeah, unless you are time traveler you can't do this.

[Mentar]

Still no _confirmed_ spoiler?

LARETHIAAAAAAN!!!!!

[larethian]

What are u guys talking about? From i see from 2ch, the storys not ended. It ended with Chiwa looking at the hyped up faces of Eita and Masuzu as they compete to become the student council prez.

And im not going to read this until i know maduzu wins.
well evwn if i read this i wont be up to date since the ebook version is really late.

[Used Can]

Considering the afterword I wonder what will happen next volume.

なお、「俺の彼女と幼なじみが修羅場すぎる」9巻【AA】のあとがきで、著者の裕時悠示氏は『春咲千和は季 堂鋭太に「恋人」であることを求めましたが、鋭太にとって千和は「家族」です。一巻から二人はずっとすれ違 い続けました。～しかし――モラトリアムは、必ず終わる時が来ます。千和に突きつけられた「終わり」とはな んだったのか。そしてその終わりは、何の「始まり」を意味するのか。今後も見守って頂ければ幸いです』など を書かれている。

[larethian]

Just read volume v8.

Masuzu best girl best troll ftw monyou monyo monyou monyo monyoumonyoumonyoumonyou gohgohgoh bestgirlbestgirlbestgirlbestgirlbestgirlbestgirl!! ! :heh: :heh: :heh: (sorry just can't help it, Masuzu simply has the best lines and monologue that makes me want to mimic her. :heh: )

Going to be merciless here to squash all the misleading and inaccurate stuff and baseless rumors posted.


- Ai just told keita to confess to chiwa. She just told him to tell her that he loved chiwa and if they finally became a couple, then she might finally can give up on keita.
- Ai torn her own wedding contract (the promise to marry paper that they made when they're still small) and told keita that she want to just become happy and stay beside with him. If this memories stand in their way, then she doesn't need it anymore. She only need to make more and new happy memories wit him.
- Ai who is walking together with keita while crying meet "the source of the problem" that made keita into an anti love.
-Keita who doesn't want to go home decide to stay in ai's place for a while.
- Masuzu get a call from her dad and he told her something unbelieveable...

This is the post I'm most pissed at.
This is like the first 1/3 of the spoilers and while they are not entirely wrong, the stuff posted and the way they sound make them very prone to be taken out of context easily. Why post at all? At least add a disclaimer and quote your source.

I already checked out Ai's spin-off, but it doesn't satisfy me enough. I mean, the LN with volume 3 clearly stated,"She was the lovely and gentle girl that I liked in kindergarten." Ai ship over here even though she doesn't have enough backing. I'm still doubting that Yuuji Yuuji's favorite is Ai. If he really did, he would've written it towards her or at least given her a little bit more time on the novel.(hinting he's doing doing this just for the moolah). Ai ship has been sunk, just saw the v8 illustrations :( OH MY GOD MY FEELS HURT.
Q_Q If Ai just bumped herself out, this is sad.
I can't even tell if he's going to use the law of the cover girl anymore(always hopefully not).
There's no way this story can end with Ai or Hime. Only Masuzu, Chiwa, Harem or Shuraba end is possible. You know it if you are reading this story properly.:heh:
Funny thing is the statement you quoted is so weak and non-consequential and you might be ignoring all the other equivalent or stronger feelings that Eita has shown towards the other girls or just purposely shipping. :p :heh: :heh:

But interestingly, Ai improved in v8.
Even the author himself said that "Ai has all the while been just an 'antics' girl, and only in v8 she 'changed'".

And when I said improved, it's with respect to her growth as a person, not growth as 'end' girl of course. How she grew was:
- she woke up to the fact about the 'bond' between Eita and Chiwa
- she no longer wanted to hog Eita for herself for her own sake and thought more for Eita
- her support of Eita getting harem is partly influenced by Kaoru/Kaori's suggestion, but her intention is good in the sense that she felt Eita would sacrifice his own happiness by rejecting all the girls in order to not hurt them.
All in all, she has grown to become a better character rather than just remaining a Ji-En-Otsu antics character :heh:

Feels like the author is trying to "hide" Masuzu is the end girl. Isn't working on me and I don't buy it.
This is actually possible.
The swing to Chiwa was really strong in v7 that it overshadowed any flags for Masuzu from Eita's POV in v7.

But in v8, the main focus was on Ai development (with Kaori as an extra) plus Masuzu issues and swinging some flags towards Harem route and some flags back to Masuzu.
Hime is almost non-existent. Chiwa's flags were maintained. In fact, another of her flag might be set when Eita unconsciously mentioned her name (and wondering why he did so after that) while he was rebuking his mother. However, in this volume, Chiwa's appearances were few except to address the points about her past injury, Eita's ambition of becoming a doctor, and 'the past vs the future'.
More flags for Masuzu though. Eita once again observed how much Masuzu resembled him. Eita was able to understand Masuzu completely in their phone conversation despite the fact that her lines were made up of purely 'Monyou's (these are the stronger ones) :heh:
Another thing: when Eita asked Masuzu about harem end hypothetically, Masuzu made a logical point on how impossible that is, and harem route will definitely turn into Shuraba route. Her argument is very sound to me and realistically speaking, I agree with her.

No Ji-En-Otsu in this volume.

I just remembered how much I enjoyed Yuuji Yuuji's antics and manzai jokes in Oreshura. Truly one of the more enjoyable ones for me. Yuuji Yuuji maintained the flags pretty well to the point it's still really hard to say what the ending would be. I agree that he could be 'playing around' with the audience, but I'd say that he's really doing a good job at it. Though I also agree with the comments and assessments about how lame it would be if Eita were to fall for Chiwa for purely just because of what happened in the past and it will not be satisfying if the family bond he felt got converted into a romance flag. Well there is still volume 9 for me to read.

But no matter what the ending is, there is ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT THAT MASUZU IS THE TRUE ROUTE FOR EITA. So let's hope that Yuuji Yuuji doesn't screw up.

As for how the Japanese thinks. there has been an ongoing debate on 2ch. Masuzu faction claims that everything is pointing to Masuzu end. Chiwa faction claims that people who don't see that it's a Chiwa end have not been reading this series carefully. Of course, we don't know how many of those posts are Ji-En-Otsu posts :heh:

[Used Can]

I think that even more lame than a Chiwa end would be a No-End
I hope the author isn't keeping the flags just to maintain the status quo and never solve the shuraba.

[Somethindarker]

Just read volume v8.

Masuzu best girl best troll ftw monyou monyo monyou monyo monyoumonyoumonyoumonyou gohgohgoh bestgirlbestgirlbestgirlbestgirlbestgirlbestgirl!! ! :heh: :heh: :heh: (sorry just can't help it, Masuzu simply has the best lines and monologue that makes me want to mimic her. :heh: )

Going to be merciless here to squash all the misleading and inaccurate stuff and baseless rumors posted.


This is the post I'm most pissed at.
This is like the first 1/3 of the spoilers and while they are not entirely wrong, the stuff posted and the way they sound make them very prone to be taken out of context easily. Why post at all? At least add a disclaimer and quote your source.


There's no way this story can end with Ai or Hime. Only Masuzu, Chiwa, Harem or Shuraba end is possible. You know it if you are reading this story properly.:heh:
Funny thing is the statement you quoted is so weak and non-consequential and you might be ignoring all the other equivalent or stronger feelings that Eita has shown towards the other girls or just purposely shipping. :p :heh: :heh:

But interestingly, Ai improved in v8.
Even the author himself said that "Ai has all the while been just an 'antics' girl, and only in v8 she 'changed'".

And when I said improved, it's with respect to her growth as a person, not growth as 'end' girl of course. How she grew was:
- she woke up to the fact about the 'bond' between Eita and Chiwa
- she no longer wanted to hog Eita for herself for her own sake and thought more for Eita
- her support of Eita getting harem is partly influenced by Kaoru/Kaori's suggestion, but her intention is good in the sense that she felt Eita would sacrifice his own happiness by rejecting all the girls in order to not hurt them.
All in all, she has grown to become a better character rather than just remaining a Ji-En-Otsu antics character :heh:


This is actually possible.
The swing to Chiwa was really strong in v7 that it overshadowed any flags for Masuzu from Eita's POV in v7.

But in v8, the main focus was on Ai development (with Kaori as an extra) plus Masuzu issues and swinging some flags towards Harem route and some flags back to Masuzu.
Hime is almost non-existent. Chiwa's flags were maintained. In fact, another of her flag might be set when Eita unconsciously mentioned her name (and wondering why he did so after that) while he was rebuking his mother. However, in this volume, Chiwa's appearances were few except to address the points about her past injury, Eita's ambition of becoming a doctor, and 'the past vs the future'.
More flags for Masuzu though. Eita once again observed how much Masuzu resembled him. Eita was able to understand Masuzu completely in their phone conversation despite the fact that her lines were made up of purely 'Monyou's (these are the stronger ones) :heh:
Another thing: when Eita asked Masuzu about harem end hypothetically, Masuzu made a logical point on how impossible that is, and harem route will definitely turn into Shuraba route. Her argument is very sound to me and realistically speaking, I agree with her.

No Ji-En-Otsu in this volume.

I just remembered how much I enjoyed Yuuji Yuuji's antics and manzai jokes in Oreshura. Truly one of the more enjoyable ones for me. Yuuji Yuuji maintained the flags pretty well to the point it's still really hard to say what the ending would be. I agree that he could be 'playing around' with the audience, but I'd say that he's really doing a good job at it. Though I also agree with the comments and assessments about how lame it would be if Eita were to fall for Chiwa for purely just because of what happened in the past and it will not be satisfying if the family bond he felt got converted into a romance flag. Well there is still volume 9 for me to read.

But no matter what the ending is, there is ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT THAT MASUZU IS THE TRUE ROUTE FOR EITA. So let's hope that Yuuji Yuuji doesn't screw up.

As for how the Japanese thinks. there has been an ongoing debate on 2ch. Masuzu faction claims that everything is pointing to Masuzu end. Chiwa faction claims that people who don't see that it's a Chiwa end have not been reading this series carefully. Of course, we don't know how many of those posts are Ji-En-Otsu posts :heh:

I'm tempted to just say "godamnit homie just skip to the end and tell us what's up!" but I won't because I'm totally patient.

[Nishaven]

Is the translation still ongoing?

[Mentar]

Thanks for the summary, larethian :)

MASUZU FTW!

[YumeNoMonogatari]

I'm perfectly fine with a Masuzu ending, I like her a lot, but... Ai-chan is still best girl.

[mark1246]

Any updates with Vol 9? was it the last one and what happen in their? please

[Bakaizer]

the posts are a bit vague

[Justice_Rises]

So what was the ending in Volume 9?


It's been so vague, no one has been able to find out....

Does anyone know? And if so, can they post a summary and spoiler ending of Volume 9?

[Used Can]

Here:
http://ilikemanga.blog87.fc2.com/blog-entry-2767.html
http://96268943.at.webry.info/201501/article_21.html

Volume 9 seems more like a setup volume than anything else.
It seems volume 10 might be the final one.

[Justice_Rises]

Here:
http://ilikemanga.blog87.fc2.com/blog-entry-2767.html
http://96268943.at.webry.info/201501/article_21.html

Volume 9 seems more like a setup volume than anything else.
It seems volume 10 might be the final one.

Thanks for that.... But it seems pretty vague wit the descriptions of Volume 9....

Also, when is Volume 10 coming out?

[Justice_Rises]

Another thread i like to visit regarding my favorite anime thing goes DEAD!! What is so popular on this board that things like this die out...

Is there a accurate summary of Volume 9 light novel? Cause i've gone up and down the internet twice looking for it and still cant find anything....

And another question is; Will there be a Volume 10, and will it be the series finale?

[nanarahi]

anyone knows something about the 10th volume?? :´(

[larethian]

Just cant be bothered with this series right now. Call me again when it's a Masuzu end.

[Justice_Rises]

Just cant be bothered with this series right now. Call me again when it's a Masuzu end.


How are any of us able to call you if there is nothing out there about volume 9 and volume 10?

I can't even find what the @#!*% is going on with this series....

ugh :frustrated::frustrated:

[clarkken228]

Just cant be bothered with this series right now. Call me again when it's a Masuzu end.

It seems Masuzu finally wins
http://s1.zerochan.net/Ore.no.Kanojo.to.Osananajimi.ga.Shuraba.Sugiru.600 .1830006.jpg

The last chapter was told by Chiwa's perspective. She called Masuzu a bother(?), disrupted Eita's promise with her. She even said "Why?" and Masuzu had a bond beyond friend with Eita, Eita chose Masuzu over her.

[Justice_Rises]

It seems Masuzu finally wins
http://s1.zerochan.net/Ore.no.Kanojo.to.Osananajimi.ga.Shuraba.Sugiru.600 .1830006.jpg

The last chapter was told by Chiwa's perspective. She called Masuzu a bother(?), disrupted Eita's promise with her. She even said "Why?" and Masuzu had a bond beyond friend with Eita, Eita chose Masuzu over her.

Very cool! I knew she'd be the one all along, it was so obvious.

I heard there might be a Volume 10 coming up after this. But i wish they just would end it here. Cause it's getting on my nerves. But at least Chiwa didnt win, i did not like her at all.

[Somethindarker]

From what I read it was a masuzu/open ending but we'll see.

[Kuroageha]

"Finally wins"

It's so obvious that is boring.

In fact the novels should ended way back since it was stretched with nothing new to add.

[Justice_Rises]

"Finally wins"

It's so obvious that is boring.

In fact the novels should ended way back since it was stretched with nothing new to add.

Agreed.

But it is the way it is.

And personally, i'm glad Masuzu won because she's the person your supposed to be cheering for.

Chiwa was always annoying and even though she pushed the hardest, she was never going to win.

[Kuroageha]

I never found any girl annoying.

I'm not biased not even when both Chiwa and specially Masuzu went drama queen mode.

[Neo-Illusions]

Silver wins. I can live with that.

[bones]

Anyone willing to give a summary of vol 9?

[Raydnt]

Masuzu=Ai>Hime>Chiwa

I think Ai is totally adorable, she and Masuzu best girls, but end girl should be Masuzu.
Two anti-love come together and discover true love should be the way to go.
And, well, you know.... monyo.

Speaking of monyo Masuzu is insane honestly, i just volume 7 and damn.
Going monyo will all of Eita's crap was too much, even his old shoes.
But damn funny.
DAmmit Masuzu dont give him happiness through Chiwa, give it to him yourself!

[Kuroageha]

^
That's playing the typical pity move Louise puled a lot of times aka drama queen.

[larethian]

Volume 10 in December.

So, what happened in the last 2 volumes? How can Masuzu win if we are getting a new volume?

[Estzero1]

Volume 10 in December.



Do you know, if it's the last one?

[Somethindarker]

Do you know, if it's the last one?

I think I heard it's an epilogue kinda like Haganai's.

[Justice_Rises]

Volume 10 in December.

So, what happened in the last 2 volumes? How can Masuzu win if we are getting a new volume?

Simple... It shows the fallout, and what's to come with what they all do with their future.

[AP24]

Vol 10 starts with: "Last time on Love Live OreShura!"

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWHL02nU4AAMajc.jpg

[sweec1890]

Any summary for what is going on in vol 10? Or at least some illustrations??! :3
Btw, it's not the last vol, right guys?

[Somethindarker]

Any summary for what is going on in vol 10? Or at least some illustrations??! :3
Btw, it's not the last vol, right guys?

I think it's the epilogue or the last volume.

[Daedric dishwasher]

any other info for Eita's mom?

[Syle]

Any spoilers for v10?

Thanks

[i_lovericeLOL]

SOOOOO, is no one ever going to update this????

[Kuroageha]

Not when the winner was obvious volumes ago.

[Shinji103]

A summary of what happened would still be nice. -_-

[i_lovericeLOL]

"obvious" isnt really the word im looking for..... i just finished watching the series and i really hope to know who the real winner is..... this is prob going to be the last anime im going to watch, haram romance is starting to annoy me...

someone plsss update us LOL

[Kuroageha]

Go and read the previous then, there is you're answer.

[i_lovericeLOL]

Go and read the previous then, there is you're answer.

you mean read the last volume(?)? if thats what youre telling me to do, then idk what to tell you XD i wouldnt be here asking for a spoiler if i could just read it.

[larethian]

Not when the winner was obvious volumes ago.

There is no winner. It looks like harem end with Masuzu as main wife if you consider that as winner. :heh:

Personally not interested in stories with harem or open ends; though I read it for the comedy mainly. But my interest level is so low now that I may never ever finish this series.

Well I could be wrong of course, that opening was the start of v10. But I have a lot of other stuff demanding my attention at the moment :heh:

[i_lovericeLOL]

There is no winner. It looks like harem end with Masuzu as main wife if you consider that as winner. :heh:

Personally not interested in stories with harem or open ends; though I read it for the comedy mainly. But my interest level is so low now that I may never ever finish this series.

Well I could be wrong of course, that opening was the start of v10. But I have a lot of other stuff demanding my attention at the moment :heh:

its so frustratingggg i wanna knowwwwwwww TT.TT, but i do hope he ends up with masuzu.....

[Justice_Rises]

So what happened?!?!?!?!?!?!??!

[pedrojames]

i also want to know

[Estzero1]

Vol.11 was released last week. I'm kinda surprised.
Seems like the series isn't over yet.

[RedWingFM]

Vol.11 was released last week. I'm kinda surprised.
Seems like the series isn't over yet.

There were probably volumes two until the end of a series or one

[RedWingFM]

There were probably volumes two until the end of a series or one

The majority of ranobe comes to an end on 12-13 volumes

[mark1246]

any new update with vol 11? kinda want to know if this is the end or not?

[RedWingFM]

any new update with vol 11? kinda want to know if this is the end or not?

No, at least at myanime

[larethian]

Anyone can summarize what happened in the recent volumes which I don't feel like reading? :heh:
Author mentioned that in volume 12 manuscript, even the editorial department couldn't tell what was going to happen which made me really curious :heh:

source: https://youtu.be/iK1sQK0ehlQ?t=2559

[Azriel195]

I'm also looking for an update on this series if anyone knows how the plot has been progressing.

[charasu]

Tell me when silver win the race@@

[RedWingFM]

Tell me when silver win the race@@

It seems that after volume 6 events she lose some privileges to be main girl

[Kuroageha]

Wrong. Just red herring that only few people would fall for.

[Somethindarker]

It seems that after volume 6 events she lose some privileges to be main girl

As of the latest volume she's pretty much won. The last book is like an epilogue, chuni chick pretty much moved on from MC someone told me last volume was a timeskip and the gang were meeting up at pinks wedding or something. No idea what happened to chihuahua, pretty cut and dry ending the author went the safe route.

[RedWingFM]

Wrong. Just red herring that only few people would fall for.

No. I mean that she stop being his "fake" girlfriend, and unfortunately, I don't know yet how to read in Japanese, maybe in last volumes tables turned.
P. S. And yeah, in my opinion, Chiwa has a little chance to win.

Just looked at the Vol. 11 & Vol. 12 raws. Dark-san was right, looks like she won the race. At least graph says so. And in later volumes there are some comedy elements appeared too. And when Kaoru will reveal "his" true gender?

[Xftg123]

Volume 12's been out, but does anyone know if that's the end or is there going to be a Volume 13?

[Okashira]

It's not listed as over in any sites and the volume is obviously not the last one from the cover alone, since the last cover can only be Masuzu looking all happy and dere :heh:

[jiostephen]

what happened in volume 12 can someone tell me??

[Justice_Rises]

what happened in volume 12 can someone tell me??

Wait.... This series is still going?! Come on, it cant' possibly have enough readers to keep it going....

Also to your question, no one really knows what happened. Hopefully someone answers as I am curious as well.

[kuudererules]

Volume 13 Cover

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DG40VB9WAAAWx4Z.jpg

[Justice_Rises]

Volume 13 Cover

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DG40VB9WAAAWx4Z.jpg

Oh boy, this should be fun.

When is the next release?

[kuropanda]

Please spoil what happened in the latest volume. :confused:

[MM-Bruni]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJsiiJdXcAAIkNM.jpg
I tried to google translate text (those translations on google dont give much lol) I only know they meet after 6 years
I dont even know what happened in volume 11 and 12, need summary!

[Used Can]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJsiiJdXcAAIkNM.jpg
I tried to google translate text (those translations on google dont give much lol) I only know they meet after 6 years
I dont even know what happened in volume 11 and 12, need summary!
I tried translating that pic:

Masuzu: It's been a while, hasn't it, Eita-kun? Huhu... You're making a face as if you've seen a dead person. Are you really that surprised?
Eita: You're... Masuzu?
Eita's thoughts: It's as if during these 6 years, she kept getting more beautiful.
During our high-school days, those eyes would stare at me. That, I recall, along with those fearful memories.

[runset]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJsiiJdXcAAIkNM.jpg
I tried to google translate text (those translations on google dont give much lol) I only know they meet after 6 years
I dont even know what happened in volume 11 and 12, need summary!

Getting interested again after seeing the pic and tried to gather some info. I stopped reading this series after vol 9 because the release date is so damn long. I think it takes about 1 year from vol 12 to 13. Also vol 13 is a bunch of gaiden story, already saw the summary from the official site. Basically a collection of IF story.
"What happened if eita pick chiwa and then reunion with masuzu who already turned into a yandere", "If Eita engaged with hime and Ai object to this engagement", "Momotaro story ver of oreshura", "All the female member of oreshura getting blown to the past and then meet chunibyou eita and learn about his dark history"

As for vol 11 and 12, long story short...
2nd semester start and eita already become the student council president and work hard for his ambition. Hime become famous in Japan and masuzu tried to recruit her as an idol to show her achievement to her dad. Hime accept but she request that masuzu confess to everyone about her fake relationship with eita or she will decline her offer. (this is what i read from the summary)

[RedWingFM]

Lol, Eita is just useless

[LeftSeven]

so, both eita and masu are still in fake relationship ?

[MM-Bruni]

Getting interested again after seeing the pic and tried to gather some info. I stopped reading this series after vol 9 because the release date is so damn long. I think it takes about 1 year from vol 12 to 13. Also vol 13 is a bunch of gaiden story, already saw the summary from the official site. Basically a collection of IF story.
"What happened if eita pick chiwa and then reunion with masuzu who already turned into a yandere", "If Eita engaged with hime and Ai object to this engagement", "Momotaro story ver of oreshura", "All the female member of oreshura getting blown to the past and then meet chunibyou eita and learn about his dark history"

As for vol 11 and 12, long story short...
2nd semester start and eita already become the student council president and work hard for his ambition. Hime become famous in Japan and masuzu tried to recruit her as an idol to show her achievement to her dad. Hime accept but she request that masuzu confess to everyone about her fake relationship with eita or she will decline her offer. (this is what i read from the summary)
Thanks man, it is sad to know that this is a gaiden, but I still think a translator would be heaven sent for me for 7+ chapters hehe

[Used Can]

It's very disappointing that the author published only 1 novel in 2017, and said novel was just a gaiden - there's also the fact he decided to publish a gaiden when the story should be wrapping up.

[readher]

It's very disappointing that the author published only 1 novel in 2017, and said novel was just a gaiden - there's also the fact he decided to publish a gaiden when the story should be wrapping up.

On the other hand I'm glad there's no timeskip in the main story. It's one of the things I hate the most, especially if it's as long as 6 years.

[MM-Bruni]

I tried translating that pic:

Masuzu: It's been a while, hasn't it, Eita-kun? Huhu... You're making a face as if you've seen a dead person. Are you really that surprised?
Eita: You're... Masuzu?
Eita's thoughts: It's as if during these 6 years, she kept getting more beautiful.
During our high-school days, those eyes would stare at me. That, I recall, along with those fearful memories.

What the text translates to in the image, I've seen that the short story is the same as in the volume 3.1 booklet.Can anyone confirm it? And if that is so, why would the author put the same story again in another volume ?

[AP24]

The manga ends at the same point the anime ended

[Justice_Rises]

Did the author get kicked in the head or something?

or is he just that dumb of a storyteller?

[MM-Bruni]

Any news on volume 14? Any translator active on volume 9 ? The translation at B-T have stopped for like a year

[Andry]

Any news on volume 14?

[ivaannom]

Oh, vol 14 will be released in May. I guess miracles do exists.

https://www.sbcr.jp/product/4815606213/

[AP24]

I wouldn't be surprised if this is the final volume considering how long it took

[Ruki0089]

Wait, this is still continue?:heh:
I thought this was ended long ago...

[styles]

Volume 14 cover

https://i.imgur.com/SmmFgvL.jpg

[tsunade666]

still not ended? what? what's happening?

[MM-Bruni]

Oh this is great news, the volume 14 is out on amazon.
I hope some translator picks up the series
Also what does the text in this pic mean?

https://i.imgur.com/HL2YKGL.jpg

[wuhugm]

^Now, Eita co's story will start moving greatly
[authors names] brought you vol 14

Resize that ducking image

[ivaannom]

Hmm, tbh i want to read vol 14 but i vaguely remember the content of the previous volumes and if i have to wait another 3 years(and vol 13 were SS iirc...) to read the next volume, i will rather wait until the series end and then re-read the novel until the end.

Although i'm curious i'll wait

And yes, resize that picture

[AP24]

Looks like Oreshura is back from hiatus since Vol 14 was released in May and Vol 15 will be released in September

[dark44]

where is pink is she out of the race?

[mark1246]

any news or update since then?

[MM-Bruni]

Volume 15 released in September, which is not the final one yet. Kaoru on cover
https://i.imgur.com/LxTUFXn.jpg
Btw what does the text say?

[mark1246]

trying to understand why there re-showing this scene?

https://twitter.com/kyo_2b/status/1366378752633151490

[AP24]

It’s mentioned in Vol 16 afterword that Vol 17 or 18 will be the final volume

[mark1246]

It’s mentioned in Vol 16 afterword that Vol 17 or 18 will be the final volume

anything happen in vol 16 that was worthy to mention?

[AP24]

Just realized the author also writes another series 29 to JK. No wonder Oreshura was on hiatus for so long. 29 to JK is currently on hiatus so that author can focus on Oreshura.

[mark1246]

So the final volume is out & the Imgur are out (if you know who to look for on twitter that post the Illustration LOL)

So my final question for this series

Did you guys stay to see who won in the end or because you guys were interested in the story?

[AP24]

The person who posted the pics on twitter also gave spoilers.

It seems to be an open ending and none of the girls have won

[mark1246]

The person who posted the pics on twitter also gave spoilers.

It seems to be an open ending and none of the girls have won


WTF..........so many years to not get an answer , cause 4chan also said opened or Silver hair girl won

BUT IT STILL an waste of time

PS: i remember vol 14 he propose to an open relationship where he would date them all but not 100% love them fully.

any other spoiler? thanks

[Doriankaioh]

Don't worry bro. There will be an after story take place after 10 years from the story.

[Kuroageha]

Called it.

[bastek66]

One more volume was announced
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FKeXr6UXEAMwct1.jpg

[Kuroageha]

lmao the author went for the "they parted ways and met after years time skip"

[mark1246]

well the Illustration are out now. AND

I still cant believe the girl who wanted the MC the most, i forget the name but the childhood friend one who was obsesses & had there marriage certificate ready , (not chiwa) Move on & got hitch with someone else! color me surprise

but it look like even after the timeskip the love comedy war never end.......well with the 2 main girls

PS: I forgot, did this have supernatural elements later on or something?

[tsunade666]

Ai-chan!!!! out of all the girls, she's my favorite and even manage to get an spin off on her own.

[Kuroageha]

well the Illustration are out now. AND

I still cant believe the girl who wanted the MC the most, i forget the name but the childhood friend one who was obsesses & had there marriage certificate ready , (not chiwa) Move on & got hitch with someone else! color me surprise

but it look like even after the timeskip the love comedy war never end.......well with the 2 main girls

PS: I forgot, did this have supernatural elements later on or something?

No pregnancy, that was a prank and had a balloon hidden.
Also, author pulled a hack move by making Masuzu have everyone on status quo until she returned which results on a open ending.

[AP24]

No pregnancy, that was a prank and had a balloon hidden.
Also, author pulled a hack move by making Masuzu have everyone on status quo until she returned which results on a open ending.


The MC lives on an island. One of the things Masuzu did to ensure the status quo was using her power or connections to prevent any condom being sold there.

[Kuroageha]

The MC lives on an island. One of the things Masuzu did to ensure the status quo was using her power or connections to prevent any condom being sold there.
I know, that's why it was a hack move.

[bastek66]

I saw LN pics from last vol. So Kaoru wasn't a girl?

[Mizo]

so spoil me how the series ended ?

[Bakaraiser0711]

well open ending looks to me as fake harem because readers not gonna read it even author want to continue the series again and I saw so many open-end series which got introduced as harem end series so its big scam

[pirateking]

well open ending looks to me as fake harem because readers not gonna read it even author want to continue the series again and I saw so many open-end series which got introduced as harem end series so its big scam

You're not the only one who feels this way, that's why a lot of light novels like Arifureta, 8th son, smartphone isekai and etc are gradually getting true harem endings. Harem genres are getting stale with monogamy endings and a lot of fans simply wanted something different.

It's understandable why stories in modern era can only feature monogamy endings, as having polygamy endings can become a bad influence on the readers for actually believing polygamy is legal in the modern society. This indirectly is a huge factor on why isekai harem stories are blooming, because polygamy is legal in isekais.